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That's right. The very moment that honor and integrity are compromised, you have already lost.

Good post @Sighlass .

Your honor and integrity and that of Sighlass has been to abandon the unborn and the Christians in the Middle East, I find little honor or integrity in that.
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    It brings a smile to my soul that some Trumpers still have such a problem with Sen. Cruz, all the while as they lecture me 'to get a life', 'get over yourself', etc....for what they deem is my irrational dislike of this President.  I've admitted that PT (Post Trump) Cruz leaves much to be desired for.  Still a more principled Conservative Man than Trump will ever be, IMHO.
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    It brings a smile to my soul that some Trumpers still have such a problem with Sen. Cruz, all the while as they lecture me 'to get a life', 'get over yourself', etc....for what they deem is my irrational dislike of this President.  I've admitted that PT (Post Trump) Cruz leaves much to be desired for.  Still a more principled Conservative Man than Trump will ever be, IMHO.

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    It brings a smile to my soul that some Trumpers still have such a problem with Sen. Cruz, all the while as they lecture me 'to get a life', 'get over yourself', etc....for what they deem is my irrational dislike of this President.  I've admitted that PT (Post Trump) Cruz leaves much to be desired for.  Still a more principled Conservative Man than Trump will ever be, IMHO.

What if the question is "Conservative that gets things done"?  Then what?

And speaking of Romney, so another Cruz-er disagrees with that decision. Do they ever agree with Cruz's views? Or is this just of value to be disrupting?
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    It brings a smile to my soul that some Trumpers still have such a problem with Sen. Cruz, all the while as they lecture me 'to get a life', 'get over yourself', etc....for what they deem is my irrational dislike of this President.  I've admitted that PT (Post Trump) Cruz leaves much to be desired for.  Still a more principled Conservative Man than Trump will ever be, IMHO.

I like Cruz and still think he would have been a much better President.  That ship sailed.  Unfortunate as it is.  I have boarded the Trump Reality Railroad and will cast my vote to ensure that the irrational leftist loonies aren't seated in the oval office.  I however, do reserve the option to jump off that railroad should he do something completely irrational between now and the election.  I do hesitate knowing that he could do a complete about face after he's re-elected.
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This president has done and continues to do many things I personally don't like but he has also done more things that I do like than any president since Reagan.  I will support his re-election for that reason alone.

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Every dang time I have ever overlooked honor in a man, I have come to rue the day.
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Your honor and integrity and that of Sighlass has been to abandon the unborn and the Christians in the Middle East, I find little honor or integrity in that.

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I will not.
Every dang time I have ever overlooked honor in a man, I have come to rue the day.
This is no different.

@Sighlass  is dead-square right.

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President Trump said things on the Iraq war and possibly other things I disagree with. It doesn't mean these things didn't happen.

The record is very clearly there.




I'm sorry...but the record is not clear. Some of that cr@p originated with someone we all know and love.

I watched Cruz's campaign against Dewhurst in Texas. He wasn't nasty and didn't lie. He didn't come out against Trump in a hard fashion. I don't fool myself...Cruz is a politician, just like Trump is.

I am kind of glad that he didn't win...him being the target (more than he is now) would had ticked me off. I don't like Trump in that position either.

The biggest thing that saddens me is that future politics are going to be nasty. Of course, they always have been but it was hidden.  But it wasn't an accepted method overtly.

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I like Cruz and still think he would have been a much better President.  That ship sailed.  Unfortunate as it is.  I have boarded the Trump Reality Railroad and will cast my vote to ensure that the irrational leftist loonies aren't seated in the oval office.  I however, do reserve the option to jump off that railroad should he do something completely irrational between now and the election.  I do hesitate knowing that he could do a complete about face after he's re-elected.
Essentially agree with all your points. I agree with Trump on about 70% of what he does. That's far better than the zero percent I would agree with Hillary Clinton on...or any of the current Dem cant'-idates who apparently believe socialism would just be the thing to replace the economic system that helped make the U.S. the wealthiest country in the history of the world.
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Remember Dubya in his second term, when he no longer needed Conservative votes to retain his power.
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Remember Dubya in his second term, when he no longer needed Conservative votes to retain his power.
Them that do not know history are doomed (to repeat it).

I don't think...IMHO it was so much that he didn't need us...as it was after 6 years of the constant brutal beatings he took in the media and in Congress by the Dems...he just gave up fighting.  Especially after the 2006 mid terms.
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

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I don't think...IMHO it was so much that he didn't need us...as it was after 6 years of the constant brutal beatings he took in the media and in Congress by the Dems...he just gave up fighting.  Especially after the 2006 mid terms.

Nope. He lost me when he called me a nativist with scorn on his face.

His Daddy is a HighAnusPort silver spoon Republican.
And for all that bumbling Texas charm and leather work gloves, that particular apple didn't fall far from the horse, as it turned out.

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Nope. He lost me when he called me a nativist with scorn on his face.

Ahhh yes the border wall issue.  I remember it well.

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And for all that bumbling Texas charm and leather work gloves, that particular apple didn't fall far from the horse, as it turned out.

His post WH comments for the most part have been disappointing to say the least.
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His post WH comments for the most part have been disappointing to say the least.

I would only edit that to include his second term comments as well, and agree.

His only redeeming feature was as CiC - and the only reason I voted for that second term - For the sake of the military and defense conservatives - And I understand their loyalty.... But you'd play hell finding anything conservative about that man's second term otherwise. In every other way he went globalist left.

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I would only edit that to include his second term comments as well, and agree.

His only redeeming feature was as CiC - and the only reason I voted for that second term - For the sake of the military and defense conservatives - And I understand their loyalty.... But you'd play hell finding anything conservative about that man's second term otherwise. In every other way he went globalist left.

I threw Dubya into the dustbin when I read of his horrific mistake in Iraq, shortly after Saddam was deposed. To keep it brief, I'm posting the link to the Wiki page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Garner

Garner's "error" was his plan to "return Iraq to the Iraqi people" as soon as possible. Instead Bush replaced him with Paul Bremer, who started the gravy train for US government contractors...we all know how that turned out.

LTG (ret) Garner was a great leader in his own right. I knew him briefly when, as a LT Colonel, he commanded 2nd Battalion, 60th Air Defense Artillery at Ramstein Germany, during the late 70s.

I was the XO for a support detachment at Todendorf, a German training area in Northern Germany, during the summer of 79. My job was to shadow the battalion commanders of the visiting units during the week of training, to make sure every request of theirs was handled.

He was admired and respected by the officers and soldiers of his battalion, you could tell they loved him. His leadership style exuded positivity and professionalism. There was no doubt his battalion was rated C-1, combat ready.

I can only wonder how many American lives would have eventually been saved had he been left in charge of Iraq reconstruction.
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I threw Dubya into the dustbin when I read of his horrific mistake in Iraq, shortly after Saddam was deposed. To keep it brief, I'm posting the link to the Wiki page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Garner

Garner's "error" was his plan to "return Iraq to the Iraqi people" as soon as possible. Instead Bush replaced him with Paul Bremer, who started the gravy train for US government contractors...we all know how that turned out.

LTG (ret) Garner was a great leader in his own right. I knew him briefly when, as a LT Colonel, he commanded 2nd Battalion, 60th Air Defense Artillery at Ramstein Germany, during the late 70s.

I was the XO for a support detachment at Todendorf, a German training area in Northern Germany, during the summer of 79. My job was to shadow the battalion commanders of the visiting units during the week of training, to make sure every request of theirs was handled.

He was admired and respected by the officers and soldiers of his battalion, you could tell they loved him. His leadership style exuded positivity and professionalism. There was no doubt his battalion was rated C-1, combat ready.

I can only wonder how many American lives would have eventually been saved had he been left in charge of Iraq reconstruction.

I want to know who's brilliant idea was it to give Saddam the noose after one trial?  He had a lot more to explain to the Iraqi people about the damage done.

Show Trials have their place.  That was a rare example of a country that needed some.
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I threw Dubya into the dustbin when I read of his horrific mistake in Iraq, shortly after Saddam was deposed. To keep it brief, I'm posting the link to the Wiki page:

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I hear that.. And 'nation-building' is a globalist feature, not to put too fine a point on it. I am not for that crap.

That the military was used as such is not my point...

That we were over there doing what the military is supposed to do (kill people and break things) means there is blood on the ground, sacred to those who fight. There has to be a reason for that, and there has to be a win.

The choice between a suspected (at the time) and budding (at the time) globalist with suspected (at the time) nation-building motives, and a Vietnam traitor seemed a no-brainer to me.

I was trying to honor the American Way and the Conservative compact and have all y'all's back.
I do not know if I would do that again.
The nation building gave everybody a belly full, and may well wind up a worse outcome than otherwise.

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I want to know who's brilliant idea was it to give Saddam the noose after one trial? 

Just one example proving the US has lost competence, in many areas.

We defeated and occupied, then "denazified" both.

Few people even know what that meant.


2019-2003=16 years later..................

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Your honor and integrity and that of Sighlass has been to abandon the unborn and the Christians in the Middle East, I find little honor or integrity in that.

I tire of your lies Tom.... after your spill on Cruz you said to prove you wrong....

Well the first thing you said was Ted Cruz ran a dirty campaign, got dirtier with every state, saying Carson was dropping out in Iowa.

Ted personally did none of the above, CNN reported (wrongly) that Carson was doing that (going back to Florida I believe, leaving the campaign behind) and Cruz people on the floor said that, and I don't blame them. It was CNN's screwup, not the Cruz campaign. Cruz's campaign did a few screwups, one was spreading what was a misquote a reporter reported on what Rubio's said (Bible at table that he passed by and saw/commented nicely).. Cruz didn't do it, Cruz fired the fellow that did, Cruz apologized. Trump posts a fake picture on Twitter of Jeb picking his nose, did you see an apology? Trump has his buddies fun fake stories of mistresses in the National Enquirer, did you hear an apology?  Trump runs Cruz's dad down as a possible shooter of JFK, did you hear an apology?

Stuff it Tom, I also tire of you crap. Do your political jabs above the belt. It doesn't get any lower that saying I abandoned babies and Christians. But then again, I don't expect you to apologize, you have a role model persona to uphold.

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Trump is a nasty SOB.... and you know it.
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I will not.
Every dang time I have ever overlooked honor in a man, I have come to rue the day.
This is no different.

@Sighlass  is dead-square right.

Thanks @Roamer, it is not like I have it out for Trump, I hope one day he starts down the straight and narrow... but his fruit only shows him getting more deranged. Calling for taking guns without due process, and the folks here just shrug it off. ... I am almost ashamed of how little folks now days care about what comes out of Trump's mouth at times. Look at this topic, it is so out there that few here can fathom how dangerous it sounds.
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