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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #100 on: March 24, 2019, 10:41:05 pm »
Priceless   88devil

I liked Jonah Goldberg's comment too:

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My God, what does he see up in those treetops? Predator in partial cloak mode? Arboreal basset hounds? The head of Alfredo Garcia?

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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #101 on: March 24, 2019, 10:45:26 pm »
 I Eagerly await the retribution. I hope it is swift, through, and brutal.
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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #102 on: March 24, 2019, 10:52:17 pm »
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LOL! Priceless indeed!  I'd pay money to see that POS being frogmarched in an orange jumpsuit!  But the ones I REALLY want are Valarie Jarrett, Sally Yates, and Loretta Lynch!
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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #103 on: March 24, 2019, 10:52:52 pm »
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Now that Mueller says there was no collusion, it is time to scrutinize the Obama Administration.  They spied on a US campaign, wiretapped Americans, bit on the dossier and unmasked Flynn. What did Barack Obama know and what and when did he authorize it?

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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #104 on: March 24, 2019, 10:55:31 pm »
LOL! Priceless indeed!  I'd pay money to see that POS being frogmarched in an orange jumpsuit!  But the ones I REALLY want are Valarie Jarrett, Sally Yates, and Loretta Lynch! 

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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #105 on: March 24, 2019, 11:25:43 pm »
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #106 on: March 25, 2019, 01:14:27 am »
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There will be “Q” activity ramping up on the net since the Mueller investigation is over; “Q” and his purveyors of doom say Trump will have thousands of “Deep State” people arrested and they will be taken to  GITMO, have a military trial and be killed/hanged.  And, he says, most of those arrested sold children, had sex with them, and ate them.  And, Republican President George Bush ran one of the children rings and he will be arrested and killed (or he turned states’ evidence and won’t be killed).  And, McCain was killed by Trump people because he was part of the child ring, and George H. W. Bush was also killed by Trump people due to his child ring.  According to “Q”, most Dems who are in congress, plus everyone who worked at a high level in the Obama administration, plus many who were in the Justice Department, plus many who aren’t Trump lovers, are the “Deep State” and they will be wiped out.  It is also said once Trump has completed wiping out the Deep State, he will have control of all of government and everyone will love him as God is beside him.

My opinion of “Q” and his on-line hypnosis of readers: If someone has committed a crime, charge that person and have a trial.  If that person is convicted, then he/she is guilty and follow the law about the punishment for that crime.  That is all one needs to know about people committing a crime.  Since 2017, “Q” has spread on the net, accusations against many people, all of them Democrats besides the Bushes, and McCain, and anyone else who criticized Trump.  If “Q” was right, would people stand for Trump arresting thousands, sending them to GITMO, supposedly have military trials and kill them?  If Trump did this, who is Trump? 

Today, I heard Trump say twice: “Hopefully someone will look at the other side.”  Trump will start an investigation of everyone who worked on this case in the Justice Department.  Going after the “Deep State” - who is everyone who did not support Trump.  This is not over and won’t be until Trump is no longer in office and he won’t stop even then.


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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #107 on: March 25, 2019, 01:24:21 am »
I'm just waiting for the shackles and chains parade. Until then, It means little, except that Mueller is done whizzing away taxpayer money on a fishing expedition.
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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #108 on: March 25, 2019, 02:35:00 am »
That didn't take long. The Muller Report leaked.

https://www.scribd.com/document/402897279/The-Mueller-Report

Lol, you got me... all bun and no meat... like an 80s Wendy's commercial.
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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #109 on: March 25, 2019, 03:55:38 am »
Once again, this man, Donald Trump, has caused probably the largest media and leftist whiff in my lifetime.

I have to hand it to the man. He caused the left to self-own like no one I've ever seen.

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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #110 on: March 25, 2019, 07:09:49 am »
Attorney General Sees No Case for Obstruction as Mueller Finds No Collusion With Russia

Fred Lucas / March 24, 2019

It’s no longer only President Donald Trump and his allies saying “no collusion.” Special counsel Robert Mueller has reached the same conclusion that the Trump campaign did not conspire with Moscow to gain advantage in the 2016 election.

Mueller also did not uncover actionable evidence in his 22-month probe that Trump sought to obstruct justice by impeding the probe, Attorney General William Barr said Sunday.

However, the special counsel didn’t make a determination on whether Trump obstructed justice. Barr said that he and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein determined there was no obstruction case.

But Trump claimed “complete and total exoneration” on both fronts, and said the investigation was the result of an “illegal takedown that failed.”

https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/03/24/attorney-general-sees-no-case-for-obstruction-as-mueller-finds-no-collusion-with-russia/?utm_source=TDS_Email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=MorningBell&
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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #111 on: March 25, 2019, 07:37:34 am »

CNN Called Out for Misleading Report

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By Ken Lund (Flickr: CNN Center, Atlanta, Georgia) [CC BY-SA 2.0 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0)], via 

CNN was recently called out for a report where they lied about James Madison and the electoral college.

According to The Daily Wire:

    On Wednesday, CNN, eager to push forward the current agenda of the Democratic Party, which is to abolish the Electoral College so that urban areas, which lean heavily Democratic, can dominate presidential elections, claimed that James Madison, the fourth president of the United States and the man known as the Father of the Constitution, called the Electoral College “evil.”

    The Electoral College has been debated since the days of James Madison, who called it "evil."

http://trumptrainnews.com/articles/cnn-called-out-for-misleading-report

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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #112 on: March 25, 2019, 07:59:36 am »
March 25, 2019
Sharyl Attkisson asks the key question post-Mueller report
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Now that we know the entire theory of Trump-Russia “collusion” cooked up by the Hillary campaign was a pure fiction, it is time start inflicting the consequences on the miscreants. But that’s a process that could take time if and when AG Barr, or maybe US Attorney Peter Huber – commissioned by former AG Sessions to investigate possible FBI abuses – present evidence of criminality to a grand jury.

In the meantime, there is some posterior-kicking, aka public shaming, due. And, I think Sharyl Attkisson has identified the first targets in need of disgrace, especially because of where that disgrace will lead:
 

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/03/sharyl_attkisson_asks_the_key_question_postmueller_report.html#ixzz5jBTVdIol


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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #113 on: March 25, 2019, 08:02:23 am »
Just a reminder:  There is information in the report that cannot be released including grand jury testimony and grand jury probes of individuals not indicted.

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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #114 on: March 25, 2019, 08:03:45 am »
Nadler: 'We Have to Look for Abuses of Power. We Have to Look for Obstructions of Justice'
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(CNSNews.com) - The end of the Mueller investigation does not end the various congressional investigations into President Trump. Far from it.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, told "Fox News Sunday" that his committee has a "broader mandate" than Special Counsel Robert Mueller did: "So we have to look into abuses of power, we have to look into obstructions of justice. And that we will do, and we'll see where it goes -- we'll see where the facts take us."

Later on Sunday, in a series of tweets, Nadler wrote: "In light of the very concerning discrepancies and final decision making at the Justice Department following the Special Counsel report, where Mueller did not exonerate the President, we will be calling Attorney General Barr in to testify before @HouseJudiciary in the near future."

 
Source URL: https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/nadler-we-have-look-abuses-power-we-have-look-obstructions-justice

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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #115 on: March 25, 2019, 08:05:16 am »
Schiff Will ‘Haul People Before Congress’ If Necessary; Won’t Rule Out Impeachment
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(CNSNews.com) - Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), the head of the House intelligence committee, said on Sunday that Special Counsel Robert Mueller may not have had enough evidence to prosecute President Trump, "but that doesn't mean, of course, that there isn't compelling and incriminating evidence that should be shared with the American people."

And he intends to "haul people before the Congress" to get answers.

Schiff, a leading congressional critic of President Trump, told ABC's "This Week" with George Stephanopoulos that "there's a difference between compelling evidence of collusion and whether the special counsel concludes that he can prove beyond a reasonable doubt the criminal charge of conspiracy.
 
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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #116 on: March 25, 2019, 08:09:43 am »
Lol, you got me... all bun and no meat... like an 80s Wendy's commercial.

And for this monumental waste of time and money, none of us should sleep until we see some dimocrats serving time.
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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #117 on: March 25, 2019, 08:15:07 am »

Chuck Todd Tries to Save Collusion Narrative, Wonders What Founders Would Think
By Curtis Houck | March 24, 2019 5:18 PM EDT

During the Sunday afternoon NBC News Special Report on AG Bill Barr’s letter to Congress about the Mueller Report, Meet the Press moderator Chuck Todd tried to save the now-deceased chances of Trump-Russia collusion, claiming that “Democrats very fairly will” wonder “if this doesn't exonerate him on the obstruction question, that if you not resolved obstruction, how do you resolve collusion?”

Speaking to Sunday NBC Nightly News anchor Kate Snow, Todd told her it’s not that the President has been vindicated of collusion, but that he will “feel quite vindicated in this because what is under dispute is how he has conducted himself, what is not going to be in dispute is...that Bob Mueller did not find any — anything about coordination with the Trump officials, and that will be Bob Mueller's word, and they will take it as the full exoneration.”

Todd continued:

Source URL: https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2019/03/24/chuck-todd-tries-save-collusion-narrative-wonders-what-founders

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« Reply #118 on: March 25, 2019, 08:17:00 am »
Scarborough on Mueller Exoneration: Trump Still Just a 'Lying' ‘Mr. Magoo'
By Scott Whitlock | March 24, 2019 7:40 PM EDT

MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough, who provided cushy, supportive coverage of Donald Trump during the 2016 primaries before flip flopping, on Sunday reacted to the lack of collusion and obstruction in the Mueller Report by comparing the President to the ‘stumbling,” lying” “Mr. Magoo” cartoon character.

Scarborough at first conceded that Trump not colluding with the Russians is “good news for Americans.” But then he shifted into grumble mode, insisting, “Donald Trump may just be a political version of Mr. Magoo.” The Morning Joe host fumed, “He may be a guy who just stumbles and bumbles around from one lie to — from one thing to another and in this case, as it pertained to Russia, there were — there were several lies that, again, probably centered more around Donald Trump's business dealings.”

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/scott-whitlock/2019/03/24/scarborough-mueller-exoneration-trump-still-just-lying-mr-magoo

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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #119 on: March 25, 2019, 08:22:39 am »
Doctors stapled this jackass's stomach.  I wish they had stapled his mouth.









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« Reply #120 on: March 25, 2019, 08:27:03 am »
Who watches this jackass?

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« Reply #121 on: March 25, 2019, 08:56:48 am »
Who watches this jackass?
That's the whole point. The only people watching that crap-fest are already hardcore committed Leftists. He is preaching to an empty Church. That is why he and his girlfriend...wife? or concubine? or whatever she is, have to say the wildest things imaginable. It is the only way he can reach a wider audience. And to remind people that his show is still actually on the air. The crazier the remark, the more press it gets.

While the bulk of his show exists in a bubble with a few viewers, when he and his girlfriend say things like, "Trump is a banana eating monkey with a small dick who throws his own feces!" they are able to escape their little bubble-world and to be heard in the general population, which they are desperate to achieve.
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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #122 on: March 25, 2019, 09:01:08 am »
Doctors stapled this jackass's stomach.  I wish they had stapled his mouth.

Personally I think they stapled the wrong sphincter.

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« Reply #123 on: March 25, 2019, 09:12:54 am »
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« Reply #124 on: March 25, 2019, 09:20:47 am »
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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #125 on: March 25, 2019, 09:38:29 am »
Today, I heard Trump say twice: “Hopefully someone will look at the other side.”  Trump will start an investigation of everyone who worked on this case in the Justice Department.  Going after the “Deep State” - who is everyone who did not support Trump.  This is not over and won’t be until Trump is no longer in office and he won’t stop even then.


A full investigation and declassification of FISA is highly unlikely. It’s more advantageous for the questions to remain and have people like Comey, Lynch, Obama, Clinton, McCabe, and others as villains for the 2020 campaign.  Before the report was released, people like Dershowitz were saying it would not reveal criminal wrongdoing, but be politically damaging.

Fully releasing the report and the underlying investigation will cause some uncomfortable content to be revealed. The report said there was no evidence the campaign directly conspired, but it did mention multiple instances of outreach. There would have to be explanations as to why they weren’t reported at the time. There would necessarily be a re-opening of discussions about Trump Tower, campaign polling data transfers, and the meeting between Gates, Manafort, and Kilimnik in Kushner’s building.




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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #126 on: March 25, 2019, 09:41:11 am »

A full investigation and declassification of FISA is highly unlikely. It’s more advantageous for the questions to remain and have people like Comey, Lynch, Obama, Clinton, McCabe, and others as villains for the 2020 campaign.  Before the report was released, people like Dershowitz were saying it would not reveal criminal wrongdoing, but be politically damaging.

Fully releasing the report and the underlying investigation will cause some uncomfortable content to be revealed. The report said there was no evidence the campaign directly conspired, but it did mention multiple instances of outreach. There would have to be explanations as to why they weren’t reported at the time. There would necessarily be a re-opening of discussions about Trump Tower, campaign polling data transfers, and the meeting between Gates, Manafort, and Kilimnik in Kushner’s building.

So you say!  I disagree!  X gets the square!
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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #127 on: March 25, 2019, 09:43:35 am »

A full investigation and declassification of FISA is highly unlikely. It’s more advantageous for the questions to remain and have people like Comey, Lynch, Obama, Clinton, McCabe, and others as villains for the 2020 campaign.  Before the report was released, people like Dershowitz were saying it would not reveal criminal wrongdoing, but be politically damaging.

Fully releasing the report and the underlying investigation will cause some uncomfortable content to be revealed. The report said there was no evidence the campaign directly conspired, but it did mention multiple instances of outreach. There would have to be explanations as to why they weren’t reported at the time. There would necessarily be a re-opening of discussions about Trump Tower, campaign polling data transfers, and the meeting between Gates, Manafort, and Kilimnik in Kushner’s building.

I sincerely hope the administration takes its chances and pursues the whole truth here.

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« Reply #128 on: March 25, 2019, 09:47:33 am »
I sincerely hope the administration takes its chances and pursues the whole truth here.

The next phase starts with the IG's report.  My prediction:  First indictment has McCabe's name on it.

Then let the plea bargaining begin.   :smokin:

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« Reply #129 on: March 25, 2019, 10:01:20 am »
If you want obstruction of justice, I suggest you look at she who used Bleachbit.

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« Reply #130 on: March 25, 2019, 10:02:38 am »
So you say!  I disagree!  X gets the square!

Yep. And as for potential FISA abuse – the 800 lb gorilla in the room – I suspect Roberts, as head of the judiciary branch, will be compelled to investigate the principals involved. And remember, we’re still waiting on the inspector general’s report regarding FISA. The inspector general did a good job in uncovering the text messages between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page that shifted our understanding of just what really happened to Donald Trump. He was targeted by Obama’s DOJ.

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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #131 on: March 25, 2019, 10:05:07 am »
Yep. And as for potential FISA abuse – the 800 lb gorilla in the room – I suspect Roberts, as head of the judiciary branch, will be compelled to investigate the principals involved. And remember, we’re still waiting on the inspector general’s report regarding FISA. The inspector general did a good job in uncovering the text messages between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page that shifted our understanding of just what really happened to Donald Trump. He was targeted by Obama’s DOJ.
Which would be perfectly in conformity with the Obama Administration's use of other Federal Agencies to target anyone to the right of Karl Marx. Ask Lois Lerner about that, too.
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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #132 on: March 25, 2019, 10:06:00 am »
Merging several Mueller report threads into this one. Remember, this is the central repository for all things Mueller report-related.

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« Reply #133 on: March 25, 2019, 10:09:27 am »
Yep. And as for potential FISA abuse – the 800 lb gorilla in the room – I suspect Roberts, as head of the judiciary branch, will be compelled to investigate the principals involved.

May thought of that possibility result in the ex president's amber stain of song and verse.
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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #134 on: March 25, 2019, 10:31:08 am »
Paul Krugman and Adam Schiff both said they had incontrovertible evidence that Donald Trump colluded with the Russians, that it was a slam dunk.

Okay. So, will anyone from CNN or MSNBC have either of the two on and ask them to produce that incontrovertible evidence?

Facts? They don’t need no stinking facts.

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« Reply #135 on: March 25, 2019, 10:39:15 am »
So you say!  I disagree!  X gets the square!


You believe whatever you want. The fact of the matter is, if this investigation was ‘illegal,’ then the president had the ability to stop it, for over one year. However, he did not and let ‘terrible things’ happen to people caught up in it, when there was supposedly no cause for it. This would include himself, since separate investigations under various federal jurisdictions have been opened, due to evidence gathered in the process.
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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #136 on: March 25, 2019, 10:44:46 am »
What got me was that though they didn't find any "actionable" evidence (IOW, nothing that would withstand a middlin' cross examination) they said that didn't mean it didn't happen.

(Maybe they've been around the Janet Reno school of defense too long).

But they and the Media are completely blowing past a basic principle (yeah, there's that word again) of American jurisprudence, that all are innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Catch some illegal alien shooting someone in the head, and the media refer to the alleged perpetrator allegedly involved in the alleged incident involving the alleged death of the alleged victim, allegedly....
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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #137 on: March 25, 2019, 10:52:46 am »
What got me was that though they didn't find any "actionable" evidence (IOW, nothing that would withstand a middlin' cross examination) they said that didn't mean it didn't happen.

(Maybe they've been around the Janet Reno school of defense too long).

But they and the Media are completely blowing past a basic principle (yeah, there's that word again) of American jurisprudence, that all are innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Catch some illegal alien shooting someone in the head, and the media refer to the alleged perpetrator allegedly involved in the alleged incident involving the alleged death of the alleged victim, allegedly....

I watched Rats on TeeVee yesterday declaring the "beyond reasonable doubt" standard is a bar too high, and a "preponderance of evidence" standard should be applied to the President.  IOW, Donald Trump is beneath the law.
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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #138 on: March 25, 2019, 10:55:05 am »
You know, it was almost worth the $35 million investigation just to see Rachel Maddow’s face Friday night.

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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #139 on: March 25, 2019, 10:55:45 am »
I watched Rats on TeeVee yesterday declaring the "beyond reasonable doubt" standard is a bar too high, and a "preponderance of evidence" standard should be applied to the President.  IOW, Donald Trump is beneath the law.

When this doesn't work they'll go straight to the 'heal the nation' mode as it looks like their own nuts might end up in the wringer.

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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #140 on: March 25, 2019, 10:56:36 am »
I watched Rats on TeeVee yesterday declaring the "beyond reasonable doubt" standard is a bar too high, and a "preponderance of evidence" standard should be applied to the President.  IOW, Donald Trump is beneath the law.
It's a sad day in America where all are supposed to have equal Rights when the press, the Leftists, and the liberals who hoot the loudest for "equality" will not even acknowledge that the POTUS has the same basic Constitutional Rights (Civil Rights) as the rest of us.

So much for all their egalitarian socialist bullsh*t. That facade is down.
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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #141 on: March 25, 2019, 11:00:47 am »
Stupid should hurt.

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Dem lawmaker says party has evidence Mueller wasn't covering
The Hill, Mar 25, 2019

A freshman Democrat in the House on Monday insisted that there is "suspicious" evidence that special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation "was not covering" related to President Trump's administration that could come back to haunt him.

“We have the evidence over the last two years that the Mueller investigation was not covering that is highly, highly suspicious,” Rep. Katie Hill (D-Calif.), a member of the House Oversight Committee, told CNN’s Alisyn Camerota on "New Day."

Hill cited ongoing controversies and questions relating to White House officials’ security clearances, the possible sale of nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia and separation of migrant children and their parents at the U.S./Mexico border.


More:  https://thehill.com/homenews/news/435585-dem-rep-we-have-evidence-mueller-investigation-wasnt-covering-that-is-highly

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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #143 on: March 25, 2019, 11:13:45 am »
Here's the twitter snapshot (suitable for framing)  :laugh:  @Bigun



I just saw this today.
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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #144 on: March 25, 2019, 11:50:25 am »
Think of the various usual suspects (including some here); #nevertrumpers of all stripes, spewing the democrat talking points 24/7.

They lack self-awareness to even be embarrased at how wrong they have been.

So I fully expect them to be out here, at CNN, at MSNBC, at starting as if nothing happened.

Whatabout-this-ism, what-about-thatism, ad infinitum, until ad nausium sets in.

I get much better analysis from democrats on LA AM radio.


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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #145 on: March 25, 2019, 11:57:40 am »
What got me was that though they didn't find any "actionable" evidence (IOW, nothing that would withstand a middlin' cross examination) they said that didn't mean it didn't happen.
But they and the Media are completely blowing past a basic principle (yeah, there's that word again) of American jurisprudence, that all are innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
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"...all are innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

That statement has gone by the wayside - say that, "innocent until proven guilty" to a real "Q" person or on the net to one of them you can't identify, and I have done it both ways, and you get clobbered because these so-called conservatives want thousands dead right now.  This mind-set is new, beginning two years ago and brings out the worst in people. 

John Kasich is on TV right now and just said, "Love your neighbor as yourself" and these divisions would go away. Kasich is a Christian and that guides his life.  He is no longer acceptable to "conservatives" because he wants peace instead of war among citizens and believes one is innocent until proven guilty.

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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #146 on: March 25, 2019, 12:10:17 pm »
@Smokin Joe
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"...all are innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

That statement has gone by the wayside - say that, "innocent until proven guilty" to a real "Q" person or on the net to one of them you can't identify, and I have done it both ways, and you get clobbered because these so-called conservatives want thousands dead right now.  This mind-set is new, beginning two years ago and brings out the worst in people. 

John Kasich is on TV right now and just said, "Love your neighbor as yourself" and these divisions would go away. Kasich is a Christian and that guides his life.  He is no longer acceptable to "conservatives" because he wants peace instead of war among citizens and believes one is innocent until proven guilty.
Jurisprudence is a process.

We have outlined that process, the determination of whether a crime has been committed (we have rules for that), gathering of evidence, (and have rules for that), obtaining warrants (and have rules for that), arrest, trial, evidence and testimony presented by both sides (and we have rules for all of that), conviction, or the default finding of innocent in the event that guilt is not proven beyond a reasonable doubt (yep, rules for that, too), and sentencing (uh-huh, still more rules), if appropriate.

Then there is the process of appeal (with still even more rules for that). I can understand the enthusiasm many here have for expediting the process, but that breaks its own rules, takes on the character of a lynch mob, and loses any legitimacy within our system of jurisprudence.

That noted, the march to the gallows begins with the first step. Patience is a virtue.
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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #147 on: March 25, 2019, 12:26:44 pm »
Think of the various usual suspects (including some here); #nevertrumpers of all stripes, spewing the democrat talking points 24/7.

They lack self-awareness to even be embarrased at how wrong they have been.

So I fully expect them to be out here, at CNN, at MSNBC, at starting as if nothing happened.

Whatabout-this-ism, what-about-thatism, ad infinitum, until ad nausium sets in.

I get much better analysis from democrats on LA AM radio.

@truth_seeker, I'm positive no response from you will be forthcoming, but just once I’d love to see you back your garbage up with actual facts, instead of just doing baseless drive-bys and then running away.  Because you know damn well there have been zero “Dem talking points” on here.

You’re stuck in a groove, dude, and you really need to give that needle a shove. 
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Re: March 24: Thread for all Mueller Report Updates
« Reply #149 on: March 25, 2019, 12:47:05 pm »
Trump: Mueller acted honorably
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/435629-trump-mueller-acted-honorably
If the investigation is to be turned around to investigate the possibly very real criminal types and acts of the 2016 election, he MUST say this, or the first line of defense for the Dems will be that any investigation is merely a reprisal and a waste of time.

This must have the look of legitimacy, otherwise any further attempts to ferret out the Criminal acts of the Obama DOJ and Clinton Foundation, Uranium One, and other egregious violations (including e-mail servers) will be broad brushed as a fishing expedition by the almost completely Left dominated mainstream press.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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