Can Texas secede from the U.S., and other Curious Texas facts for Texas Independence Day

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Can Texas secede from the U.S., and other Curious Texas facts for Texas Independence Day
March 01, 2019


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[Elderberry]

Can Texas secede from the U.S.

"There is no provision in the United States Constitution that forbids a state from withdrawing from the union," Miller said in an email conversation. "In fact, Article 1 Section 10 of the Constitution explicitly lists all of the actions forbidden to the states. Nowhere in that list is a state prohibited from withdrawing from the union. Therefore, under the Tenth Amendment that power is reserved to the states and to the people within the state."

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Of course one can leave.

Otherwise, one entered into a suicide pact by joining, and this cannot be considered a free country.

[austingirl]

I'm all for seceding.

[Dexter]

I'm all for seceding.

It'd be a lot uglier than you think. Texas does benefit from the union whether Texans will admit it or not. There's also the issue of fed funded military bases in Texas. Oh, and if Texas left the union the liberals would take full control and then probably just reintegrate Texas by force.

[Elderberry]

It'd be a lot uglier than you think. Texas does benefit from the union whether Texans will admit it or not. There's also the issue of fed funded military bases in Texas. Oh, and if Texas left the union the liberals would take full control and then probably just reintegrate Texas by force.

It Texas Seceded from the Union the liberal states would be so pissed that there would be no way in Hell that they would ever allow Texas to rejoin the Union even if the Texan Citizens voted to return.

[Sanguine]

It'd be a lot uglier than you think. Texas does benefit from the union whether Texans will admit it or not. There's also the issue of fed funded military bases in Texas. Oh, and if Texas left the union the liberals would take full control and then probably just reintegrate Texas by force.

We would be fine, @Dexter. 

[catfish1957]

It'd be a lot uglier than you think. Texas does benefit from the union whether Texans will admit it or not. .

Okay, I'll play along.  List them.

[truth_seeker]

If there is nothing preventing Texas from leaving, it applies to other states as well.


How about several like minded states, forming an association and adopting a parting of ways.


Ted Cruz could lead the effort, and be the first President.

NROT for New Republic of Texas.


Now build that damn Wall.

[Elderberry]

If Texas Secedes they should do it all own their own.

Stop building the wall. Annex Mexico instead. Stop the enticements. Work in Mexico to help the lot of their citizens. Increase the industrialization of, first Mexico, then all Central America. Entice US Businesses to build in Mexico and Central America. If their people still want to immigrate give them a pass thru to the US. But help where they live so they do not feel the need to uproot.

With the upcoming Ice Age all that Southern Real Estate is going to be so, so Very Valuable.

[austingirl]

It'd be a lot uglier than you think. Texas does benefit from the union whether Texans will admit it or not. There's also the issue of fed funded military bases in Texas. Oh, and if Texas left the union the liberals would take full control and then probably just reintegrate Texas by force.

The union benefits from Texas a whole heck of lot more than Texas benefits from the union. If Texas left the union, the conservatives would be in control, not the liberals.

[Dexter]

If Texas left the union, the conservatives would be in control, not the liberals.

The left would take control of the rest of the union and be more of a threat to your way of life than ever.

[Dexter]

If there is nothing preventing Texas from leaving, it applies to other states as well.

I could be wrong but I thought Texas made a different agreement.

[Dexter]

Okay, I'll play along.  List them.

Why did Texas join in the first place?

[Bill Cipher]

This could be amusing. 

[IsailedawayfromFR]

It'd be a lot uglier than you think. Texas does benefit from the union whether Texans will admit it or not. There's also the issue of fed funded military bases in Texas. Oh, and if Texas left the union the liberals would take full control and then probably just reintegrate Texas by force.

Who cares whether there are federal funded military bases in Texas?  They exist in Texas.

I'd sure like to see what the US government can do to subdue the State of Texas to comply by force.

You have no idea what you are talking about it seems.

[Bill Cipher]

Why did Texas join in the first place?

‘Cause they were about to have their a$$es handed to them by Mexico. 

[Sanguine]

‘Cause they were about to have their a$$es handed to them by Mexico.

History's not your strong suit either, huh?

[Dexter]

Who cares whether there are federal funded military bases in Texas?  They exist in Texas.

The federal government would care, a lot. There's no way Texas would be allowed to keep those resources.

[roamer_1]

Oh, and if Texas left the union the liberals would take full control and then probably just reintegrate Texas by force.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[roamer_1]

The left would take control of the rest of the union and be more of a threat to your way of life than ever.

Nope. Because without Texas the rest of the red states have no hope... Thus the Rockies, the Midwest, and the South would soon follow. And the desert southwest too. All that's left after that is the Yankees, the Rust Belt, and the Left Coast. And I don;t think the Rust belt would stay long either.

[Dexter]

Nope. Because without Texas the rest of the red states have no hope... Thus the Rockies, the Midwest, and the South would soon follow. And the desert southwest too. All that's left after that is the Yankees, the Rust Belt, and the Left Coast. And I don;t think the Rust belt would stay long either.

You think Uncle Sam will allow that?

[roamer_1]

You think Uncle Sam will allow that?

There ain't a damn thing he can do about it.

[Dexter]

There ain't a damn thing he can do about it.

It feels like 1861 all over again.

 

[IsailedawayfromFR]

The federal government would care, a lot. There's no way Texas would be allowed to keep those resources.

You are dreaming to believe Texas would cede over any land within its boundaries to a foreign entity.  The feds can take back anything not tied down that they claim is theirs.

Guess you are conveniently also forgetting the fact that Texas also contributed to 'those resources' as well as toward all the resources of the military that reside outside the state and owned by the feds.

It is a fact as well that any attempt at seizure of the property of the state by a foreign government, like the US would become, would not go unnoticed by the other sympathetic states.

Texas would certainly not be alone in fighting for freedom.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

There ain't a damn thing he can do about it.

This guy appears to think DC is actually important within states.

[roamer_1]

It feels like 1861 all over again.

 

Except this  time the industrial weight is in the red states, most of the military is from the red states, most of the military hardware is in the red states, and damn near all of the guns.

What exactly can the US do with 1/3rd of their troops, and less than half of their hardware to put most of the continent back under their thumb?

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Except this  time the industrial weight is in the red states, most of the military is from the red states, most of the military hardware is in the red states, and damn near all of the guns.

What exactly can the US do with 1/3rd of their troops, and less than half of their hardware to put most of the continent back under their thumb?

Nothing.  Absolutely, positively nothing.

[roamer_1]

This guy appears to think DC is actually important within states.

I also don't think he has the slightest clue of the visceral hate that exists wrt Washington DC.
They've been all up in our business for far, far too long.

[Dexter]

Except this  time the industrial weight is in the red states, most of the military is from the red states, most of the military hardware is in the red states, and damn near all of the guns.

What exactly can the US do with 1/3rd of their troops, and less than half of their hardware to put most of the continent back under their thumb?

Good luck.

Glad I'm moving.

[roamer_1]

Good luck.

Glad I'm moving.

So are we 

[IsailedawayfromFR]

I also don't think he has the slightest clue of the visceral hate that exists wrt Washington DC.
They've been all up in our business for far, far too long.

It is one reason why Southerners voted for someone like Trump.  In spite of being a Yankee, he was the guy who promised to go up against the DC mindset.

[SZonian]

The federal government would care, a lot. There's no way Texas would be allowed to keep those resources.

Come and take them then...

[roamer_1]

It is one reason why Southerners voted for someone like Trump.  In spite of being a Yankee, he was the guy who promised to go up against the DC mindset.

Well, all I can say is I hope they know better next time. 

[Elderberry]

The federal government would care, a lot. There's no way Texas would be allowed to keep those resources.

No one's going to stop the Feds from removing anything they wanted to keep from their Air Force, Navy, Army and Coast Guard bases. They  can even dismantle the barracks if they so desired. There's not much to take from the National Forests, unless they harvest the trees. The Greenies would have a conniption fit if they touched one of those precious trees though.

[thackney]

Come and take them then...

[Bigun]

I see that our pet troll is on the loose again!

[catfish1957]

No one's going to stop the Feds from removing anything they wanted to keep from their Air Force, Navy, Army and Coast Guard bases. They  can even dismantle the barracks if they so desired. There's not much to take from the National Forests, unless they harvest the trees. The Greenies would have a conniption fit if they touched one of those precious trees though.

We wouldn't need a repeat of 1861.  The United States has plenty of bases in other foreign countries.  Texas could do the same.

[catfish1957]

Good luck.

Glad I'm moving.

Please don't tell us it's Texas.  We already have too many left leaning millenials as it is.

[Dexter]

I see that our pet troll is on the loose again!

You don't need to announce yourself. We can all see that you're here Bigun.

[Sanguine]

See, and I was thinking someone else entirely than you two.