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New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged in prostitution ring: report
By Rachel Frazin - 02/22/19 12:04 PM EST

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Robert Kraft, long-time friend of President Trump and owner of the New England Patriots, is being charged in a prostitution ring, according to a Boston CBS affiliate.

Two instances involving Kraft were caught on video police in Jupiter, Fla., reportedly said. He is one of 25 people who reportedly facing charges.

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You know there's only one reason they are going after Kraft........his friendship with Trump.


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The owner of the Super Bowl champion New England Patriots, Robert Kraft, is being criminally charged with soliciting prostitution at a spa in Florida, where surveillance video showed him receiving sexual services, police said Friday.

Kraft, 77, is one of more than two dozen people being charged in a police sting in Florida as part of a probe of human trafficking, authorities in Jupiter, Fla. said.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/02/22/new-england-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-prostitution.html
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His wife died, he's 77 years-old and widowed, what's the big frickin' deal?

So now being caught with a Prostitute is "being involved with a prostitution ring"?

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So now being a plain old "John" is akin to being involved in "Human Trafficking Ring"?

You know the only reason the press is going to go to town on this, is because of Kraft's friendship with President Trump.

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His wife died, he's 77 years-old and widowed, what's the big frickin' deal?

So now being caught with a Prostitute is "being involved with a prostitution ring"?

 77 and still likes taking ol' One-Eye to the optometrist.  They should give this guy a medal not an arrest.
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Well that will bump Jussie off the news.

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Looks like it was a sex trafficking ring.

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Martin County Sheriff says the women involved in human trafficking ring were given no days off. They averaged about 1,500 men a year. He says their hygiene was “minimal” at best @NBC10Boston

This guy is worth six billion and he couldn’t find a high-class “escort?”
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Well that will bump Jussie off the news.

Rich friend of Trump with a hooker vs New info on Fake hate crime.   

What ever will the MSM lead with and devote the news cycle to?  HMmmmmm
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His wife died, he's 77 years-old and widowed, what's the big frickin' deal?

So now being caught with a Prostitute is "being involved with a prostitution ring"?


In this day and age, especially after the charging of the executives at Backpage, there’s no way you don’t know you’re supporting trafficking. That’s especially true, when the women were identified as foreign. Perhaps he thought they were OK, because they did not have faces covered with duct tape.
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In this day and age, especially after the charging of the executives at Backpage, there’s no way you don’t know you’re supporting trafficking. That’s especially true, when the women were identified as foreign. Perhaps he thought they were OK, because they did not have faces covered with duct tape.

Can someone fill me in on what the "faces covered w/ ducktape" part means... if sensitive pm me instead... I don't understand that part... not sure I want to, but I am curious.

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You know there's only one reason they are going after Kraft........his friendship with Trump.
Oh, gimme a break.

The NFL has ways of getting rid of bad eggs. The Super Bowl was one of the least-watched championships in a decade, even in a year when ratings were up for the rest of the league's games. If you want to start getting into conspiracy stuff, placating an audience bored with the Patriots dynasty makes a whole lot more sense than "tHeY hAtE TRUMP!!!1" Lots of NFL owners are Republicans. Many of them likely voted for Trump. Most of the ones that still hold a grudge over the USFL are gone by this point, or close to it.
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Can someone fill me in on what the "faces covered w/ ducktape" part means... if sensitive pm me instead... I don't understand that part... not sure I want to, but I am curious.

Thanks


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Oh, gimme a break.

The NFL has ways of getting rid of bad eggs. The Super Bowl was one of the least-watched championships in a decade, even in a year when ratings were up for the rest of the league's games. If you want to start getting into conspiracy stuff, placating an audience bored with the Patriots dynasty makes a whole lot more sense than "tHeY hAtE TRUMP!!!1" Lots of NFL owners are Republicans. Many of them likely voted for Trump. Most of the ones that still hold a grudge over the USFL are gone by this point, or close to it.

I've already seen more than one headline saying something like "Trump Friend Robert Kraft Charged in Prostitution Ring"

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Adam Schefter said on ESPN that Kraft isn’t the most famous person — there’s someone else whose name hasn’t surfaced yet who’s better known than Kraft.

“I’m also told that Robert Kraft is not the biggest name involved down there in South Florida,” Schefter said.


https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/22/report-robert-kraft-is-not-the-biggest-name-involved-in-prostitution-case/
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Adam Schefter said on ESPN that Kraft isn’t the most famous person — there’s someone else whose name hasn’t surfaced yet who’s better known than Kraft.

“I’m also told that Robert Kraft is not the biggest name involved down there in South Florida,” Schefter said.


https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/22/report-robert-kraft-is-not-the-biggest-name-involved-in-prostitution-case/

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NE Patriots owner gets charged with solicitation of prostitution
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2019, 02:29:58 pm »

The franchise of the antithesis of morality gets to chalk up another one....


https://www.khou.com/article/news/nation-world/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-prostitution/285-8a3aec69-68a9-4fd5-ba0b-92c6bb7a2ffb


Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged with soliciting prostitution
Police said they secretly planted undercover cameras in targeted massage parlors and videotaped the interactions between men and the female employees........
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Re: NE Patriots owner gets charged with solicitation of prostitution
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2019, 02:54:54 pm »
The franchise of the antithesis of morality gets to chalk up another one....


https://www.khou.com/article/news/nation-world/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-prostitution/285-8a3aec69-68a9-4fd5-ba0b-92c6bb7a2ffb


Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged with soliciting prostitution
Police said they secretly planted undercover cameras in targeted massage parlors and videotaped the interactions between men and the female employees........

Of course, they simply could have closed down the place and arrested the owners months ago....but NOOOOOOOOOO!

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Re: NE Patriots owner gets charged with solicitation of prostitution
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2019, 02:59:42 pm »
Of course, they simply could have closed down the place and arrested the owners months ago....but NOOOOOOOOOO!


True dat.  But this is a helluva lot more fun to watch.
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“I’m also told that Robert Kraft is not the biggest name involved down there in South Florida,” Schefter said.[/i]



LMAO if it's Tom Brady.
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LMAO if it's Tom Brady.


Given the area, I’m guessing it is a well-known PGA Tour player who has had previous issues with the ‘service’ industry.
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Looks like it was a sex trafficking ring.

 

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Two cousins renting it out on weekends looks like a sex-trafficking ring to a publicity-hungry DA looking for a job as a congressman.
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Schefter clarified that when he was talking about Kraft on ESPN earlier in the day, there were only 25 people named in the police report so far and that it is his understanding that there are up to 200 names in total involved in the investigation.

https://ntknetwork.com/report-200-people-involved-in-florida-prostitution-sting-prominent-members-of-society/
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His gal pal isn't going to be too happy about this.


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His gal pal isn't going to be too happy about this.


She must not have been rocking his world.
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His gal pal isn't going to be too happy about this.



Is that the one he did that audition tape with?

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You know there's only one reason they are going after Kraft........his friendship with Trump.


Supposedly, there are a lot more than the 25 we know about and some other names that are recognizable, aside from Kraft. Let’s just say, for the sake of argument, they are going after Kraft for his association with Trump. Bob Kraft, Roy Cohn, Jeffrey Epstein, Roger Stone, and Bill Clinton. These are all Trump associates, who have weird sexual proclivities. Imagine his dumb luck to have had all these pervs in his orbit.
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His wife died, he's 77 years-old and widowed, what's the big frickin' deal?

So now being caught with a Prostitute is "being involved with a prostitution ring"?

No victim, no crime. If it is a personal arrangement with two people and sex trafficking isn't involved, then it shouldn't be a crime.

It is funny how, if he just picked up a young woman for a date, wined and dined her, maybe bought her a $2000 purse that she could flip the next day at a pawn shop, and happened to get some action, it would just be a 'date'.

Maybe they need to do like the Pachinko machines in Tokyo and not actually exchange money but tokens that you can take down the street and 'sell back'.

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His gal pal isn't going to be too happy about this.



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For all we know she might be grateful for someone else taking a load off of her.
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I know someone that has a massage business. Let's just say that asking for a happy ending is very common....almost expected.
I'm not sure that some "legit" massage places even offer it to loyal customers who are big tippers.
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Supposedly, there are a lot more than the 25 we know about and some other names that are recognizable, aside from Kraft. Let’s just say, for the sake of argument, they are going after Kraft for his association with Trump. Bob Kraft, Roy Cohn, Jeffrey Epstein, Roger Stone, and Bill Clinton. These are all Trump associates, who have weird sexual proclivities. Imagine his dumb luck to have had all these pervs in his orbit.

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I don't know about the others,but the left is NOT going to go after Ray Chhn. He's a homo. They are not going after Bubba,either.
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but the left is NOT going to go after Ray Chhn. He's a homo.

He's dead, too.

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She must not have been rocking his world.

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BTW,if that is his girlfriend,she was reported to be 39 years old in another story. He is 77,so that ain't a love match,anyway.
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I don't know about the others,but the left is NOT going to go after Ray Cohn. He's a homo. They are not going after Bubba,either.


As gator pointed out Cohn is dead - unsurprisingly - from AIDS. However, according to Roger Stone, he was not gay.

"Roy was not gay. He was a man who liked having sex with men.”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/06/02/the-dirty-trickster
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As gator pointed out Cohn is dead - unsurprisingly - from AIDS. However, according to Roger Stone, he was not gay.

"Roy was not gay. He was a man who liked having sex with men.”

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"You either .... .... or you do not .... ...., there is no in-between."

That is it, shall we say, in a nut shell.
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This is what happens when you get your hookers at a strip mall.
He went to Jupiter, Florida, to a sketchy Chinese massage parlor, when he had no business-related reason to be in Florida at the time. (The Patriots' last game against a Florida opponent was December 9, 2018, a month before this incident happened.) Meaning he most likely personally went out of his way to solicit from this particular parlor.

So if this was a sex slavery ring, and he went through that much trouble to solicit from this particular parlor way out of his normal path...

...yeah, this guy is in deep doodoo.
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No victim, no crime. If it is a personal arrangement with two people and sex trafficking isn't involved, then it shouldn't be a crime.

It is funny how, if he just picked up a young woman for a date, wined and dined her, maybe bought her a $2000 purse that she could flip the next day at a pawn shop, and happened to get some action, it would just be a 'date'.

Maybe they need to do like the Pachinko machines in Tokyo and not actually exchange money but tokens that you can take down the street and 'sell back'.
That's the thing, though. It looks like sex trafficking was involved. That's what makes this so serious.
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Re: NE Patriots owner gets charged with solicitation of prostitution
« Reply #38 on: February 22, 2019, 04:57:51 pm »
Of course, they simply could have closed down the place and arrested the owners months ago....but NOOOOOOOOOO!


Generally, when they have a sting on this type of place, there’s much more than just prostitution going on. Typically, they also have narcotics and money laundering activities. Most likely, they watched the place to expand the net of potential charges and get a sense of the personnel hierarchy.
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Looks like it was a sex trafficking ring.

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Martin County Sheriff says the women involved in human trafficking ring were given no days off. They averaged about 1,500 men a year. He says their hygiene was “minimal” at best @NBC10Boston

This guy is worth six billion and he couldn’t find a high-class “escort?”

There's the salient question, isn't it?

Why would a guy worth millions consort with trafficked girls and risk his own life and promote the sex trade?

Incredibly reckless and stupid.

As well as promoting one of the worst crimes in the country.

I'm sure there are plenty of gold diggers who would be happy to service him, just because he's rich and famous.

Stupid.  Irresponsible.  **nononono*

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No victim, no crime. If it is a personal arrangement with two people and sex trafficking isn't involved, then it shouldn't be a crime.

It is funny how, if he just picked up a young woman for a date, wined and dined her, maybe bought her a $2000 purse that she could flip the next day at a pawn shop, and happened to get some action, it would just be a 'date'.

Maybe they need to do like the Pachinko machines in Tokyo and not actually exchange money but tokens that you can take down the street and 'sell back'.

So how exactly do you know if these "professional sex workers" were or were not trafficked as children or teenagers.

Many pros were, you know.

This is not a "victimless" crime.
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Looks like it was a sex trafficking ring.

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Martin County Sheriff says the women involved in human trafficking ring were given no days off. They averaged about 1,500 men a year. He says their hygiene was “minimal” at best @NBC10Boston

This guy is worth six billion and he couldn’t find a high-class “escort?”
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Exactly. Guys like this don't hire 'prostitutes' in the usual sense of the word. They hire maids, nurses, personal assistants, personal secretary, therapists, or any number of other 'cover jobs' for whatever services they provide. I have never known a millionaire who did not have a few beautiful 20 year olds working for him, all with various titles and dubious qualifications. That is simply the accepted culture on that stratum of society. He had no need to pick up skanks off of some street corner.

Also, he could easily go to Belize or any number of other countries and hire dozens of house servents to do whatever he wants. The whole story really makes no sense at all.

I cannot understand this. It makes no sense. He is supposed to have people working for him to protect him from nonsense like this.
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I cannot understand this. It makes no sense. He is supposed to have people working for him to protect him from nonsense like this.


Sometimes, people think they can do whatever they want, whether it’s due to wealth or power. Look at guys like Clinton and Spitzer.
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Sometimes, people think they can do whatever they want, whether it’s due to wealth or power. Look at guys like Clinton and Spitzer.

Add algore to that list, whose "adult entertainment" code word was Mr. Stone.
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Add algore to that list, whose "adult entertainment" code word was Mr. Stone.

I figured it would be "Mr. Wood".

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Hope this story has a happy ending.

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Hope this story has a happy ending.

I must admit I was rather deflated when I first heard the news.

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This story calls for Chris Hanson.
He's having his own legal problems.

Meanwhile:
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Second Boston billionaire linked to Florida prostitution ring
By Amanda Woods
February 23, 2019 | 12:09pm


The billionaire founder of a Boston-based equity firm joins Patriots owner Robert Kraft as one of the ultra-rich caught up in the months-long police probe of Florida massage parlors, authorities said.

John Childs, 77 — of J.W. Childs Associates — is wanted on a solicitation of prostitution charge, according to a warrant for his arrest obtained by TCPalm.com. He has not been arrested.

Childs firmly denied any involvement in the ring.  ...

Childs, who lives seasonally in Indian River Shores and lives part-time in Boston, has donated to several Republican politicians and groups  — including former US House Speaker Paul Ryan, 2012 presidential candidate Mitt Romney and Club for Growth, TCPalm.com reported.

He’s contributed about $4.3 million to Republican candidates — as well as political action committees — last cycle, campaign finance records obtained by the outlet show. ...
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