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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #300 on: February 28, 2019, 01:59:32 pm »
It may not seem like much to you, but think about all the other people it would effect. @Sanguine  and @QueenCatofAragon say they have slow connections. Just think of how much a little more connection speed could change their lives.

No, this is not direct sat. this is backbone sat... It is still going through terrestrial bricks and mortar. So cellular antennas (radio) converts to digital wire to the main office, converts to sat sig (radio) back to an office somewhere that is plugged in to the net. STILL gonna be stupid latency. It has to be.

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« Reply #301 on: February 28, 2019, 02:28:29 pm »
No, this is not direct sat. this is backbone sat... It is still going through terrestrial bricks and mortar. So cellular antennas (radio) converts to digital wire to the main office, converts to sat sig (radio) back to an office somewhere that is plugged in to the net. STILL gonna be stupid latency. It has to be.

That isn't what they are claiming. Seeing is believing though. These LEO satellites will be 25 times closer than the ones out there now. But the constellation is going to be immense. Won't be able to swing that dead cat without hitting a damn satellite.
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« Reply #302 on: February 28, 2019, 02:31:11 pm »
That isn't what they are claiming. Seeing is believing though. These LEO satellites will be 25 times closer than the ones out there now. But the constellation is going to be immense. Won't be able to swing that dead cat without hitting a damn satellite.

Considering their purpose, I don't think this is their purpose. Jussayin.

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« Reply #303 on: February 28, 2019, 02:39:52 pm »
Considering their purpose, I don't think this is their purpose. Jussayin.

Right. The whole premise of the thread. Turning people into sentient robots.
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« Reply #304 on: February 28, 2019, 02:50:50 pm »
Right. The whole premise of the thread. Turning people into sentient robots.

Well, I refuse to be sentient. So there.

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« Reply #305 on: February 28, 2019, 02:59:51 pm »
Well, I refuse to be sentient. So there.

Great. Just out Turing the countryside.
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« Reply #306 on: February 28, 2019, 03:05:48 pm »
Great. Just out Turing the countryside.

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« Reply #307 on: February 28, 2019, 03:32:32 pm »
I am a rock. I am an island.

Can't make up your own mind. You win.   :laugh:
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« Reply #308 on: February 28, 2019, 03:32:48 pm »
Well, I refuse to be sentient. So there.
Pssst! (just play dumb, and try not to laugh out loud)
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« Reply #309 on: February 28, 2019, 08:03:07 pm »
It may not seem like much to you, but think about all the other people it would effect. @Sanguine  and @QueenCatofAragon say they have slow connections. Just think of how much a little more connection speed could change their lives.

@bigheadfred

That’ll probably continue indefinitely for me.  My carrier, U.S. Cellular, has 4G coverage for 99% of customers.

Guess who’s in the 1%?  😳
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« Reply #310 on: February 28, 2019, 08:26:32 pm »
@bigheadfred

That’ll probably continue indefinitely for me.  My carrier, U.S. Cellular, has 4G coverage for 99% of customers.

Guess who’s in the 1%?  😳

Ever thought of moving out of your cave?  :laugh:
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« Reply #311 on: February 28, 2019, 08:54:26 pm »
@QueenCatofAragon

A lot of this is going to depend on who gets the slice of the pie. Meaning which telecom companies are going to be willing to spend the money on the infrastructure. As with anything else be sure the nanny state will have their say. You might be in a place that will be a dead spot no matter what.

Industry Voices—Rysavy: How 5G will solve rural broadband

http://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/industry-voices-rysavy-how-5g-will-solve-rural-broadband
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« Reply #312 on: March 01, 2019, 12:31:05 pm »
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #313 on: March 01, 2019, 04:47:47 pm »
 https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/17/17344250/google-x-selfish-ledger-video-data-privacy

Google’s Selfish Ledger is an unsettling vision of Silicon Valley social engineering

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« Reply #314 on: March 01, 2019, 05:53:27 pm »
https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/17/17344250/google-x-selfish-ledger-video-data-privacy

Google’s Selfish Ledger is an unsettling vision of Silicon Valley social engineering

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@bigheadfred that's chilling. 

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« Reply #315 on: March 01, 2019, 06:09:37 pm »
@bigheadfred that's chilling.

All this is going on and what are people concerned with? The ssdd
  "news" stories. They keep people in stupid mode.
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« Reply #316 on: March 01, 2019, 06:54:51 pm »
All this is going on and what are people concerned with? The ssdd
  "news" stories. They keep people in stupid mode.

No argument here.

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« Reply #317 on: March 01, 2019, 11:46:46 pm »
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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« Reply #318 on: March 02, 2019, 02:20:02 am »
https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/17/17344250/google-x-selfish-ledger-video-data-privacy

Google’s Selfish Ledger is an unsettling vision of Silicon Valley social engineering

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Thanks for that like.

Self-fulfilling prophesy at its finest, and it leaves me with no doubt that all the carefully selected buzzwords and emotionalist catch phrases used to elicit the specific desired public reaction on any issue are indeed calculated, carefully selected to turn the herd toward or from a concept, person, or belief.

Why I watch little on television, and am wary of what I watch.  It's tempting to get a dozen televisions and lock them in a soundproof room with random channels on, just to cloud the electronic genome....
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #320 on: March 04, 2019, 06:59:20 pm »
Scientists Call for a Ban on AI-Controlled Killer Robots

https://futurism.com/scientists-ban-ai-killer-robots

Killer Robots

Killer robots are coming for us all.

But rather than a T-1000 spewing one-liners, autonomous weapon systems like drones could end up replacing human soldiers on the battlefield entirely, given enough time.

But is it ethical to have an artificial intelligence call the shots and decide to take a human life?
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« Reply #321 on: March 04, 2019, 07:03:54 pm »
Thousands of Chinese Fans Paid to See a Virtual Hologram Singer

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Hologram Performance

Thousands of fans convened at Shanghai’s Mercedes-Benz arena on Saturday to see an unusual show: a virtual hologram singer named Luo Tianyi, accompanied by world famous Chinese pianist Lang Lang.

But rather than basing the holographic performance on a particular human performer’s movement and voice — the way holograms of Michael Jackson and Tupac have “performed” on stage over the last decade — Tianyi’s performance is the result of six months of hard work by roughly 200 production staff, as the South China Morning Post (SCMP) reports.
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #322 on: March 04, 2019, 08:46:26 pm »
She's pretty hot...for a cartoon character.  I guess this helps to explain why so many Asians are marrying their non-sentient robots.  And stuff.
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« Reply #323 on: March 04, 2019, 10:06:25 pm »
She's pretty hot...for a cartoon character.  I guess this helps to explain why so many Asians are marrying their non-sentient robots.  And stuff.

The problem in China is that their one child policy has killed too many girl babies so now there isn't enough women to go around.

I think the Japanese are close to or are at negative population growth.

But that isn't the problem there. They are just plain weird.


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« Reply #324 on: March 04, 2019, 10:20:20 pm »
The problem in China is that their one child policy has killed too many girl babies so now there isn't enough women to go around.

I think the Japanese are close to or are at negative population growth.

But that isn't the problem there. They are just plain weird.

@bigheadfred 

I've worked with a few H1Bs from China, and I am compelled by experience to agree with your overall assessment, there's some weird there.  I really like my US Citizen friend who hailed from Taiwan, though.  That Scientist is the salt of the Earth.  He preceded me in the layoffs by a couple years and moved to San Hoser. CA.
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« Reply #325 on: March 04, 2019, 10:42:50 pm »
...

But that isn't the problem there. They are just plain weird.

That's almost an understatement.

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« Reply #326 on: March 04, 2019, 11:17:35 pm »
That's almost an understatement.

Don't mention the breath....
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« Reply #327 on: March 05, 2019, 07:37:34 am »
Don't mention the breath....

I heard they eat garlic like it is candy.
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« Reply #328 on: March 05, 2019, 08:32:39 am »
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« Reply #329 on: March 05, 2019, 11:33:27 am »
I heard they eat garlic like it is candy.

Yup.
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« Reply #330 on: March 06, 2019, 09:21:43 am »
Controlling AI Weapons May Be Impossible, Warns Former US Secretary of State

https://futurism.com/the-byte/controlling-ai-weapons-impossible

Kill Switch

AI arms control is all “fun and games” until someone accidentally recreates Skynet.

When looking to the future we can’t ignore the possibility of a potential artificial intelligence arms race as nations rush to outpace one another. That’s exactly the sort of future that former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger is afraid of. Speaking last Thursday at a three-day event celebrating the opening of a new school of computing at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Kissinger warned that AI weapons might become harder to control than nuclear ones. Such systems will be developed in secrecy leading to a dangerous arms race, as Kissinger said according to MIT Tech Review, “With AI, the other side’s ignorance is one of your best weapons—sharing will be much more difficult.”
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« Reply #331 on: March 06, 2019, 10:56:54 am »
Skynet is active, Mr. Connor....
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« Reply #332 on: March 06, 2019, 11:24:45 am »
Skynet is active, Mr. Connor....

I was watching a vid where they were using very high resolution satellite cameras that could help identify a person by the shape of their head, the type of clothes they wore, the car they were driving, etc. Analyzing people from the top down.
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« Reply #333 on: March 06, 2019, 06:46:43 pm »
This is the worst of the worst. This is what will be the end of humanity. THIS is why I am a Luddite.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,352885.0.html

Hat tip to @rangerrebew

Robot 'GOD': AI version of Buddhist deity to preach in Japanese temple

 
Japan: Robot modelled after Buddhist deity gives its first speech
 
The humanoid robot is modeled after Kannon Bodhisattva, the Buddhist Goddess of Mercy. The robot’s name is Mindar and it gave its first speech on the Heart Sutra, a key scripture in Buddhist teaching. The Japan Times reported that the teachings spoken by the robot offer a path to "overcome all fear, destroy all wrong perceptions and realise perfect nirvana.”
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« Reply #334 on: March 06, 2019, 07:00:22 pm »
Apropos of nothing

A short story

The Nine Billion Names of God
Arthur C. Clarke

https://urbigenous.net/library/nine_billion_names_of_god.html

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« Reply #335 on: March 06, 2019, 09:47:10 pm »
I was watching a vid where they were using very high resolution satellite cameras that could help identify a person by the shape of their head, the type of clothes they wore, the car they were driving, etc. Analyzing people from the top down.
The CIA used to be able to tell which of the Soviet big bosses were in town by their golf bags.. that was years ago. The resolution has only improved.
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« Reply #336 on: March 07, 2019, 09:37:45 am »
OpenAI withholds its latest research fearing societal impact

https://www.artificialintelligence-news.com/2019/02/15/openai-latest-research-societal-impact/

OpenAI has decided not to publish its latest research fearing its potential misuses and the negative societal impact that would have.

The institute, backed by the likes of Elon Musk and Peter Thiel, developed an AI which can produce convincing ‘fake news’ articles.

Articles produced by the AI writer can be on any subject and merely require a brief prompt before it gets to work unsupervised.

The AI scrapes data from ~8 million webpages and solely looks at those posted to Reddit with a ‘karma’ of three or more. That check means the article resonated with some users, although for what reason it cannot be sure.

Often, the resulting text – generated word-by-word – is coherent but fabricated. That even includes ‘quotes’ used in the article.
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« Reply #337 on: March 07, 2019, 10:02:02 am »
OpenAI withholds its latest research fearing societal impact

https://www.artificialintelligence-news.com/2019/02/15/openai-latest-research-societal-impact/

OpenAI has decided not to publish its latest research fearing its potential misuses and the negative societal impact that would have.

The institute, backed by the likes of Elon Musk and Peter Thiel, developed an AI which can produce convincing ‘fake news’ articles.

Articles produced by the AI writer can be on any subject and merely require a brief prompt before it gets to work unsupervised.

The AI scrapes data from ~8 million webpages and solely looks at those posted to Reddit with a ‘karma’ of three or more. That check means the article resonated with some users, although for what reason it cannot be sure.

Often, the resulting text – generated word-by-word – is coherent but fabricated. That even includes ‘quotes’ used in the article.

IOW, AI is catching up on CNN and MSNBC.  I'd be worried if I was a reporter, too.
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #338 on: March 07, 2019, 02:37:47 pm »
I'll prolly get one of these  ****slapping for this. So be it.


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("It's not new. I realized that nothing we've been doing is new.
We haven't been tapping into new areas of the brain,
we've just been awakening the most ancient.
This technology is simply a route to powers
that conjurers and alchemists used centuries ago.")1: The Lawnmower Man 1992

We're seeing an exponential growth in all machines and innovations
As technology surpasses and exceeds our limitations
Implications could be serious and many past and present futurists
Have been warning us for years about the consequences
Massive repercussions, we see the evidence, dependence
On our internet and phones and games and television
Losing independence, as we've immersed ourselves in working
All our fingers to the bones for corporations
We give them back our paychecks for the latest and the greatest
Plastic upgrades, name brand products, and replacements
And build their databases investing hours of our own free time
Uploading information used against us
To target us with market advertising toward our interests
Collecting information used to monitor our senses
Correcting anyone who won't comply or be connected
How long before a mandatory microchip's injected?
 
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It's the age old lie, the promise of utopia
The carrot on the stick, the empty cornucopia
Technological hive mind dystopia
What will arise is a time of robophobia
 
It's an emerging type insurgence, converging and been burgeoning
And churning, slowly bursting to the surface; it's concerning every person
And confirming every warning, the disturbing thought, we're working
Toward a single mind that's merging and converting us to downloadable versions
Of ourselves inside a full immersion, universal simulated virtual reality
Where every living earthling's neural pathways are inspected mandatorily
And connected using voice-to-skull telepathy
Absorbing data, fingerprints, to play us back like instruments
Manipulating just like we're puppets of ventriloquists
Remote controlling human beings like Ouija boards
Coursing through the veins like circuit boards
Record the sounds of every vocal chord
Moving exponentially towards a singularity
Eventually we won't distinguish magic from technology
And robots will unplug from electricity, no longer using batteries
But powered like a golem, using alchemy
 
[Hook]
 
Slowly manipulate genetically our DNA collectively
Infecting every living organism and directing every
Intersecting thought and every memory and vision
Inspecting our opinions and collecting our decisions
A digital technocracy emerging as philosophy
Inserting thought police patrols and mind control technology
Removing private property, enforcing thought bureaucracy
Reducing every freedom and pursuit of life and liberty
Consistently expanding all their terms and their conditions
With minimum requirements and maximum restrictions
Creating unknown problems to offer fake solutions
To complicate the system till there's nothing but confusion
Depicting anyone who won't conform as unacceptable
Demanding everyone to all agree and not be skeptical
Eventually connecting every mind from every nation
Fulfilling prophecy from Genesis to Revelation
 
[Hook]
 
("Even with all these new abilities, there are dangers.")
("The human race lost that knowledge
and now I'm reclaiming it through virtual reality.")
("You're moving too fast...")1: The Lawnmower Man 1992
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #339 on: March 07, 2019, 08:43:06 pm »
Amazon is coming out with a robot, Amazon Vesta. IMO it will probably be the most advanced home robot we've ever seen.

Of course, I've been wrong about these things before.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #340 on: March 07, 2019, 08:45:23 pm »
The sidebrush on my Roomba 650 stopped moving and a replacement part didn't work either. From Google, it seems it's probably motherboard damage. So I bought a Roomba 675. I wanted an I7 but my wife would have killed me to spend that much.

The 675 does a good job on our floors.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #341 on: March 07, 2019, 08:48:49 pm »

The 675 does a good job on our floors.

Not with a shedding Malamute in the house.  :laugh:

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #342 on: March 07, 2019, 08:59:16 pm »
Not with a shedding Malamute in the house.  :laugh:
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #343 on: March 07, 2019, 09:00:58 pm »
The sidebrush on my Roomba 650 stopped moving and a replacement part didn't work either. From Google, it seems it's probably motherboard damage. So I bought a Roomba 675. I wanted an I7 but my wife would have killed me to spend that much.

The 675 does a good job on our floors.

I don't have a problem with ANI robots. They are developing robots that can pick crops. You get a robot that can pick broccoli and strawberries there wouldn't be any huge need to have people coming over the border to do those jobs Americans won't.

It is when you start applying AGI to control people that I have the problem. That is what their ultimate goal is. A police surveillance state (IMO). And ASI will be the worst because I don't think they can control it. They might not be able to control AGI yet. What we read in the news is all old hat.

The thing is is that whoever wins the AI race could rule the cyber world. Which is about the whole damn pie.

Cybersecurity is really going to be a problem. I posted an article here.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,353865.msg1933891.html#msg1933891
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #344 on: March 07, 2019, 09:05:24 pm »
Po'boy carpet!

LOL!
That's right
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And lets not talk about legos and matchbox cars... Or rebuilding a turbo-350 on the coffee table...

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #345 on: March 07, 2019, 09:05:33 pm »
I don't have a problem with ANI robots. They are developing robots that can pick crops. You get a robot that can pick broccoli and strawberries there wouldn't be any huge need to have people coming over the border to do those jobs Americans won't.

It is when you start applying AGI to control people that I have the problem. That is what their ultimate goal is. A police surveillance state (IMO). And ASI will be the worst because I don't think they can control it. They might not be able to control AGI yet. What we read in the news is all old hat.

The thing is is that whoever wins the AI race could rule the cyber world. Which is about the whole damn pie.

Cybersecurity is really going to be a problem. I posted an article here.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,353865.msg1933891.html#msg1933891

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #346 on: March 07, 2019, 09:14:16 pm »
LOL!
That's right
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And lets not talk about legos and matchbox cars... Or rebuilding a turbo-350 on the coffee table...

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« Reply #347 on: March 07, 2019, 09:16:32 pm »
...in a fancy Las Vegas hotel room...don't ask me how I know that...

Woudn't know... Fancy to me is the Motel 6  :shrug:

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #348 on: March 07, 2019, 09:18:22 pm »
LOL!
That's right
 :beer:

And lets not talk about legos and matchbox cars... Or rebuilding a turbo-350 on the coffee table...
Or a 650 Norton in the living room....
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #349 on: March 08, 2019, 04:41:21 am »
Not with a shedding Malamute in the house.  :laugh:

I have 2 cats, one a tabby and one fluffy that sheds a lot. The downstairs roomba 530 has lasted since I bought it in 2008, it still gets the floor clean. Every few weeks I have to take off the side brush and unwind hairs.

Basically all I do is press 2 buttons. Beats vacuuming.