TOENSING: Why Did Christopher Wray Allow Mueller’s Thugs To Use 29 FBI Agents On Roger Stone?

[mystery-ak]

TOENSING: Why Did Christopher Wray Allow Mueller’s Thugs To Use 29 FBI Agents On Roger Stone?
11:39 AM 01/26/2019 | Opinion
Victoria Toensing | Contributor

Federal Bureau of Investigation Director Chris Wray should hang his head in shame. At a time when he should be restoring the FBI’s reputation after Jim Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok and others tarnished its image as our country’s premier law enforcement agency, he allowed 29 gun slinging agents to make a predawn arrest of former Trump advisor Roger Stone.

Stone is not a drug dealer, nor is he a terrorist. Stone is charged with obstruction of justice and making false statements to the special counsel. Significantly, the alleged false statements specified in the indictment were about conduct, which, if admitted, was not criminal. (RELATED: Roger Stone Raid Raises Questions About Wray Among FBI Rank And File)

I prosecuted drug dealers. I never sent more than a handful of agents to arrest them, and these were were gun toting, vicious dudes. Stone does not own a gun nor does he even have a license to do so.

I supervised the prosecution and, thus, the capture of foreign terrorists. The FBI never sent 29 agents to capture even the most dangerous.

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[Frank Cannon]

The FBI has only one mode......stupid.

[Wingnut]

 Since when does the arrest of any non-violent criminal warrant the dispatch of such a military operation as that used in the arrest of Roger Stone?

And further... if there was such a perceived threat of violence to warrant such a show of force, why was the CNN alerted to be present?

The whole affair stinks to high heaven.  Smells like Mueller's  "stunt justice".  It keeps him employed..

[dfwgator]

The FBI has only one mode......stupid.

Two modes: Stupid and Evil.

[mystery-ak]

Wray is another DC tool....Trump needs to stop picking these guys..
Where is the DOJ on this...

[Bigun]

What is Because he is part of the same Clinton Mafia as his buddy Comey for $1000 Alex?

[DB]

The FBI and DOJ are totally corrupt. Neither Trump nor Sessions really did anything about it. Besides appointing judges this was probably one of the most important things to clean up to restore the Republic. Border security along with many other things are directly affected by this. Both Trump and Sessions had complete authority to do something about it and didn't. Total failure. I will not given them a pass for it.

[Frank Cannon]

Wray is another DC tool....Trump needs to stop picking these guys..

I don't know if you figured this out yet but everyone working in DC is an Establishment hack. Even people you think are not Establishment hacks turn on a dime when push comes to shove.

[mystery-ak]

I don't know if you figured this out yet but everyone working in DC is an Establishment hack. Even people you think are not Establishment hacks turn on a dime when push comes to shove.

I figured that out years ago and I wish Trump would too or stop listening to whoever is recommending these twits.

[dfwgator]

I don't know if you figured this out yet but everyone working in DC is an Establishment hack. Even people you think are not Establishment hacks turn on a dime when push comes to shove.

Washington DC needs the British to come back and burn it down again.

[Wingnut]

Washington DC needs the British to come back and burn it down again.

or the canadians.

[bigheadfred]

Since when does the arrest of any non-violent criminal warrant the dispatch of such a military operation as that used in the arrest of Roger Stone?

And further... if there was such a perceived threat of violence to warrant such a show of force, why was the CNN alerted to be present?

The whole affair stinks to high heaven.  Smells like Mueller's  "stunt justice".  It keeps him employed..

Yes, it stinks to high heaven. Yes, it is overdone theatrics.

Not so much about muler.

 The left controlling the narrative. Constantly shifting. Keeping the deer caught in the headlines.

[bigheadfred]

Washington DC needs the British to come back and burn it down again.

That ain't right. It is the American's turn.

[Sanguine]

That ain't right. It is the American's turn.

 

[Right_in_Virginia]

I figured that out years ago and I wish Trump would too or stop listening to whoever is recommending these twits.

Because he didn't bring his own government with him @mystery-ak  I think the point made in the previous post is there's pretty slim pickins for government jobs.

[Smokin Joe]

Twenty nine agents in full battle rattle is just to make sure the CNN cameras (who just happened to be there, right?) had a good show. It's all about optics, and the optic is to make a guy in his sixties look more dangerous than Dillinger.

The management at the FeeBIes is still playing on the Clinton team.

[DB]

Twenty nine agents in full battle rattle is just to make sure the CNN cameras (who just happened to be there, right?) had a good show. It's all about optics, and the optic is to make a guy in his sixties look more dangerous than Dillinger.

The management at the FeeBIes is still playing on the Clinton team.

Heads should roll over this. But that is unlikely and that really tells us the true state of the FBI and DOJ right now in the present.

[Smokin Joe]

Heads should roll over this. But that is unlikely and that really tells us the true state of the FBI and DOJ right now in the present.

Yeah. The arrest could have been made with one or two agents in business suits with their weapons holstered.

Not only a waste of resources, but a typical unnecessary and dangerous grandstand play for the cameras...

....ghosts of Waco, Gordon Kahl, Randy Weaver, and others...

...all to provide a show for CNN.

[Wingnut]

Yep. Who knew FBI Agent Johnson and Special Agent Johnson (no Relation) were running this operation.

[Restored]

No, it had to be done that way. CNN was covering it. Two agents would have been a nothing burger. This whole charade was made for television. The only thing that could have been better was Ma Barker in the upper window with a chattering tommy gun while Bonnie and Clyde were sneaking out the back door.

Did you notice today's narrative is that Roger Stone isn't that bad of a guy? They hope he will turn on Trump and they need to "gravitas" him up a bit.

[jpsb]

I figured that out years ago and I wish Trump would too or stop listening to whoever is recommending these twits.

Trump got some very bad advice early on. Sessions and Wray have both been horrible. Thank goodness Sessions is gone.

[Bigun]

Yeah. The arrest could have been made with one or two agents in business suits with their weapons holstered.

Not only a waste of resources, but a typical unnecessary and dangerous grandstand play for the cameras...

....ghosts of Waco, Gordon Kahl, Randy Weaver, and others...

...all to provide a show for CNN.

Actually, I think it's pretty standard practice when indictments of this nature come down, for the defendant's attorney to be notified and told that his client should surrender by time certain but, as you say, that wouldn't have provided nearly so much drama for the CNN cameras!

[austingirl]

Actually, I think it's pretty standard practice when indictments of this nature come down, for the defendant's attorney to be notified and told that his client should surrender by time certain but, as you say, that wouldn't have provided nearly so much drama for the CNN cameras!

The arrest was so over over-the-top. You're right, for a charge like this, a surrender would have been appropriate. Very few in the media made an objection to the tactics used by the corrupt FBI.

[edpc]

An assessment by a retired career FBI agent.


For this exercise, I conducted a tactical assessment for the Stone operation, using my experience as a critical incident commander as the baseline. I quickly saw how easy it is for personnel ranks to swell, considering the following "rough estimate" needs here: onscene command (1-2), arrest team (5-7), breach team (2-3), outer perimeter (4-5), surveillance team (2-4), crisis negotiator (1-2), log keeper (1), evidence response (crime scene) team members (4-5), evidence photographer (1), public affairs (1) and subject transport team (3). With Stone's residence positioned along a canal, yes, maritime assets (2) would have been stationed there, as well.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/31/opinions/lindsey-graham-roger-stone-fbi-raid-response-gagliano/index.html?no-st=1548988417

[dfwgator]

Why do dogs lick their....

[bigheadfred]

An assessment by a retired career FBI agent.


For this exercise, I conducted a tactical assessment for the Stone operation, using my experience as a critical incident commander as the baseline. I quickly saw how easy it is for personnel ranks to swell, considering the following "rough estimate" needs here: onscene command (1-2), arrest team (5-7), breach team (2-3), outer perimeter (4-5), surveillance team (2-4), crisis negotiator (1-2), log keeper (1), evidence response (crime scene) team members (4-5), evidence photographer (1), public affairs (1) and subject transport team (3). With Stone's residence positioned along a canal, yes, maritime assets (2) would have been stationed there, as well.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/31/opinions/lindsey-graham-roger-stone-fbi-raid-response-gagliano/index.html?no-st=1548988417

Nothing about this indicates it could be a critical incident.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

An assessment by a retired career FBI agent.

For this exercise, I conducted a tactical assessment for the Stone operation, using my experience as a critical incident commander as the baseline. I quickly saw how easy it is for personnel ranks to swell, considering the following "rough estimate" needs here: onscene command (1-2), arrest team (5-7), breach team (2-3), outer perimeter (4-5), surveillance team (2-4), crisis negotiator (1-2), log keeper (1), evidence response (crime scene) team members (4-5), evidence photographer (1), public affairs (1) and subject transport team (3). With Stone's residence positioned along a canal, yes, maritime assets (2) would have been stationed there, as well.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/31/opinions/lindsey-graham-roger-stone-fbi-raid-response-gagliano/index.html?no-st=1548988417

Where's the F35s and A10s?

Field Arty, 105mm to 155mm, to soften up the residence before the EffBeeEye A Team went Rambo on a couple in their 70s?


The only excuse they could have had for dragging the wife outside in her skivvies would've been if she'd lunged for a drawer containing a gun or other weapon inside the building.

What? No Destroyers with Cruise Missiles?

[Wingnut]

An assessment by a retired career FBI agent.


For this exercise, I conducted a tactical assessment for the Stone operation, using my experience as a critical incident commander as the baseline. I quickly saw how easy it is for personnel ranks to swell, considering the following "rough estimate" needs here: onscene command (1-2), arrest team (5-7), breach team (2-3), outer perimeter (4-5), surveillance team (2-4), crisis negotiator (1-2), log keeper (1), evidence response (crime scene) team members (4-5), evidence photographer (1), public affairs (1) and subject transport team (3). With Stone's residence positioned along a canal, yes, maritime assets (2) would have been stationed there, as well.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/31/opinions/lindsey-graham-roger-stone-fbi-raid-response-gagliano/index.html?no-st=1548988417

They used less personnel to get Osama bin laden. 

[Smokin Joe]

They used less personnel to get Osama bin laden.

Yeah, but those were real tier 1 operators.

[Wingnut]

Yeah, but those were real tier 1 operators.

True!   

The FBI only used their assets to protect their phony baloney jobs.

[edpc]

Where's the F35s and A10s?

Field Arty, 105mm to 155mm, to soften up the residence before the EffBeeEye A Team went Rambo on a couple in their 70s?


The only excuse they could have had for dragging the wife outside in her skivvies would've been if she'd lunged for a drawer containing a gun or other weapon inside the building.

What? No Destroyers with Cruise Missiles?

Maybe the pesky Posse Comitatus thing got in the way.   

[Smokin Joe]

Maybe the pesky Posse Comitatus thing got in the way.   

I thought they had a bunch of OV-10s or was that the BATF?

[Wingnut]

I thought they had a bunch of OV-10s or was that the BATF?

Call in the A-1 Sky Raiders "Sandies".  Good grief.  What is this Viet Fricking Nam?

[Sanguine]

This round goes to @To-Whose-Benefit?.

[Wingnut]

This round goes to @To-Whose-Benefit?.

Are you the official score keeper?   

[Smokin Joe]

Call in the A-1 Sky Raiders "Sandies".  Good grief.  What is this Viet Fricking Nam?

http://www.ov-10bronco.net/us-state-batf.cfm

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150327/batfe-air-force-grounded-again

The communists never quit.

[Sanguine]

Are you the official score keeper?   

Yes.   

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

 

This round goes to @To-Whose-Benefit?.

 

[Wingnut]

http://www.ov-10bronco.net/us-state-batf.cfm

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150327/batfe-air-force-grounded-again

The communists never quit.

Got to give them credit for tenacity!.

[Cyber Liberty]

Trump got some very bad advice early on. Sessions and Wray have both been horrible. Thank goodness Sessions is gone.

Do you think Barr will be any better?  The word is he, Mueller and Comey are best buds.

[XenaLee]

Do you think Barr will be any better?  The word is he, Mueller and Comey are best buds.

I would be real surprised if Barr turns out to be an improvement over the other deep-staters.   I like surprises like that.  Unexpected ones. 

[aligncare]

I would be real surprised if Barr turns out to be an improvement over the other deep-staters.   I like surprises like that.  Unexpected ones.

Barr gave assurances he would look into the actions of all the actors in the Mueller theater of the absurd, “Investigating Trump.”

Can’t wait for the sequel, “Bobby and His Boys Go to Jail.”

[Cyber Liberty]

Barr gave assurances he would look into the actions of all the actors in the Mueller theater of the absurd, “Investigating Trump.”

Can’t wait for the sequel, “Bobby and His Boys Go to Jail.”

Do you believe those assurances?  I don't usually believe assurances from government bureaucrats and politicians.  Barr has said repeatedly he will not rein Mueller in, and that part is likely the only believable thing I've heard.

[aligncare]

Do you believe those assurances?  I don't usually believe assurances from government bureaucrats and politicians.  Barr has said repeatedly he will not rein Mueller in, and that part is likely the only believable thing I've heard.

He also penned an unsolicited memorandum to Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein in June 2018 backing actions President Trump took, including the firing of James Comey, saying they were constitutionally legitimate.

Sounds like someone more interested in a fair interpretation of law, than in favoritism.

If the editorial board of the New York Times is “concerned” about William Barr, then I’m not:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/12/opinion/sunday/mueller-barr-rosenstein-confirmation.html

[XenaLee]

He also penned an unsolicited memorandum to Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein in June 2018 backing actions President Trump took, including the firing of James Comey, saying they were constitutionally legitimate.

Sounds like someone more interested in a fair interpretation of law, not in favoritism.

If the editorial board of the New York Times is “concerned” about William Barr, then I’m not:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/12/opinion/sunday/mueller-barr-rosenstein-confirmation.html

You realize... that you very well may have to eat those words.   Right?  (even a stopped clock is right, etc.....)

[aligncare]

You realize... that you very well may have to eat those words.   Right?  (even a stopped clock is right, etc.....)

Universally, anyone with a two-bit opinion around here is subject to eating it.

It’s whether they are intellectually honest enough to own it that matters.

[XenaLee]

Universally, anyone with a two-bit opinion around here is subject to eating it.

It’s whether they are intellectually honest enough to own it that matters.

True.  I guess.... time will tell.

FWIW.... I hope you're right.

[Cyber Liberty]

True.  I guess.... time will tell.

FWIW.... I hope you're right.

I hope he's right too.  I'm hoping against hope my personal impression of Barr is wrong.

@aligncare

[XenaLee]

I hope he's right too.  I'm hoping against hope my personal impression of Barr is wrong.

@aligncare

Same.

[truth_seeker]

Since when does the arrest of any non-violent criminal warrant the dispatch of such a military operation as that used in the arrest of Roger Stone?

And further... if there was such a perceived threat of violence to warrant such a show of force, why was the CNN alerted to be present?

The whole affair stinks to high heaven.  Smells like Mueller's  "stunt justice".  It keeps him employed..

Wray is  another huge disappointment, informing me the politicized stench runs deep in these "intelligence-law enforcement" entities.