High Tax Rates Won’t Work in Today’s Economy

[jmyrlefuller]

That fine! You are perfectly entitled to do that but I'll tell you this, you will never again be a TRULY free man for so long as the Marxist income tax and the IRS remain in existence.

And you won't be free without those things, either. The oppressors will just be of a different sort.

[Sanguine]

And you won't be free without those things, either. The oppressors will just be of a different sort.

So, what's the solution, @jmyrlefuller?

[Bigun]

And you won't be free without those things, either. The oppressors will just be of a different sort.

I suppose you are right @jmyrlefuller.  We should just spit on the graves of our ancestors and submit! Maybe so, but you'll NEVER find me in that crowd!

[Smokin Joe]

All in all, the most interesting part of this discussion has been that it is over funding a Government grown far beyond those limited Constitutional duties and powers it was to have.
Certainly, returning to that limited Federal Government, to the confines of its originally intended powers, would drastically reduce the need for funding, and that could be collected from the tariffs and duties which that government may levy without the 16th Amendment. There can be no meaningful and appropriate modification of the tax structure without eliminating that Amendment, and once more freeing the fruits of the labors of the individual from the clutches of the Government.

Otherwise, all we're arguing about is the color of our chains.

[Bigun]

@Smokin Joe

Here's a link to section 401 of HR25, commonly known as the fairtax act. It address the subject of your most recent post.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/25/text#toc-H4FD7CC96F903402B83325A9C9A86D7B3

And the entire bill is here:  https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/25/text

Enjoy

[Smokin Joe]

@Smokin Joe

Here's a link to section 401 of HR25, commonly known as the fairtax act. It address the subject of your most recent post.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/25/text#toc-H4FD7CC96F903402B83325A9C9A86D7B3

And the entire bill is here:  https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/25/text

Enjoy

With all due respect, the prebate is a deal killer for me.

[Bigun]

With all due respect, the prebate is a deal killer for me.

That truly saddens me but doesn't lesson my respect for you at all @Smokin Joe.  I am convinced that this, warts and all, is the key to unravelling the federal leviathan.

[Smokin Joe]

That truly saddens me but doesn't lesson my respect for you at all @Smokin Joe.  I am convinced that this, warts and all, is the key to unravelling the federal leviathan.

Repeal the 16th Amendment.
Repeal the 17th Amendment.

That right there will get you a lot closer to unravelling it.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

Repeal the 16th Amendment.
Repeal the 17th Amendment.

That right there will get you a lot closer to unravelling it.

I never really cared much about the 17th until I thought about it in the context of the 16th.

Now I think it's critical that we gut them together.

[jmyrlefuller]

I never really cared much about the 17th until I thought about it in the context of the 16th.

Now I think it's critical that we gut them together.

If we repeal the 17th, we also have to ratify the Dirksen Amendment allowing for representation of a state legislature by a measure of other than population alone; i.e. counties.

[Hoodat]

I am definitely on board for killing the 17th.  But there is no way two-thirds of the Senate will go along.

[aligncare]

I am definitely on board for killing the 17th.  But there is no way two-thirds of the Senate will go along.

They would most certainly do what is best for their cushy careers and not what is best for the future of America. Gutless politicians. But I repeat myself.