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Does apple cider vinegar actually do anything?
« on: November 28, 2018, 04:31:00 pm »
Does apple cider vinegar actually do anything?

An investigation into the internet’s favorite home remedy.
By Sara Chodosh November 30, 2017
 
If something claims to be a miracle cure—for cancer, for overeating, for run-of-the-mill acne—you should start by assuming it isn’t. Life is hard and long and there are no easy shortcuts, especially when it comes to your health. That includes the internet darling that is apple cider vinegar.

Proponents of the fermented liquid seem to think it can cure just about any ailment, and sometimes advise taking shots of it to stave off illness. Cider vinegar is just one in a sea of trendy superfoods that plague the web, but it’s a great example of how easy it is to ascribe unfounded health benefits to generally innocuous ingredients. Apple cider vinegar won’t magically make your problems go away, no matter how much you believe in it. Most of the “evidence” in support of its benefits comes from shoddy journals and pseudo-doctors.

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Re: Does apple cider vinegar actually do anything?
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2018, 04:37:58 pm »
NOTHING works better for acid reflux.

It also does a great job of removing rust.
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Re: Does apple cider vinegar actually do anything?
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2018, 04:53:27 pm »
It’s great for everything from acid reflux to vinaigrette.
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Re: Does apple cider vinegar actually do anything?
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2018, 05:02:24 pm »
Water it down and drink with straw. I will eat your teeth way worse than crack.

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Re: Does apple cider vinegar actually do anything?
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2018, 05:06:01 pm »
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NOTHING works better for acid reflux.


That may be because a lot of dyspepsia is due to insufficient stomach acid, not an excess thereof, according to alt-medicine docs.  I've see it myself (though not specifically for GERD).

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Re: Does apple cider vinegar actually do anything?
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2018, 05:44:08 pm »
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That may be because a lot of dyspepsia is due to insufficient stomach acid, not an excess thereof, according to alt-medicine docs.  I've see it myself (though not specifically for GERD).

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I thought it all was due to insufficient acid?
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2018, 05:55:12 pm »
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I thought it all was due to insufficient acid?

Almost all, perhaps, but not all.  (How's that for a weasely medical answer?) 

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Re: Does apple cider vinegar actually do anything?
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2018, 06:30:00 pm »
NOTHING works better for acid reflux.

Eating pickles does. I had a coworker who tried vinegar and it didn't fix it. I switched him to pickles and that did it. I don't know why.
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Re: Does apple cider vinegar actually do anything?
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2018, 07:07:25 pm »
Eating pickles does. I had a coworker who tried vinegar and it didn't fix it. I switched him to pickles and that did it. I don't know why.

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Hmmm,maybe the brine they were soaked in?
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Re: Does apple cider vinegar actually do anything?
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2018, 07:45:20 pm »
If you do any epoxying vinegar is great for cleaning uncured epoxy off your hands and tools. White vinegar is fine. Cleans copper before soldering. Weedkiller.

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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2018, 08:15:39 pm »
Eating pickles does. I had a coworker who tried vinegar and it didn't fix it. I switched him to pickles and that did it. I don't know why.

Probably because most pickle labels read:

Ingredients: Fresh Cucumbers, Water, Salt, Distilled Vinegar,...
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Re: Does apple cider vinegar actually do anything?
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2018, 08:20:51 pm »
If you do any epoxying vinegar is great for cleaning uncured epoxy off your hands and tools. White vinegar is fine. Cleans copper before soldering. Weedkiller.

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Being an Agent Orange vet I am a little cautious about using chemicals,so the prime reason I buy vinegar is to remove rust from antique car parts. The fact that I can also use it for acid reflux if needed is a bonus. I pour the vinegar on weeds after I have used it on rust.
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Re: Does apple cider vinegar actually do anything?
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2018, 09:51:52 pm »
Eating pickles does. I had a coworker who tried vinegar and it didn't fix it. I switched him to pickles and that did it. I don't know why.

I wonder if just drinking the pickle juice would work for him. The salt in the pickle may be why the straight vinegar didn't work for him.

Pickle juice is a well known cure for cramps. Straight salt works well for me too, when I get leg cramps.

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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2018, 10:16:54 pm »
I wonder if just drinking the pickle juice would work for him. The salt in the pickle may be why the straight vinegar didn't work for him.

Pickle juice is a well known cure for cramps. Straight salt works well for me too, when I get leg cramps.

All of this anecdotal discussion about the usefulness of apple cider vinegar for dyspepsia reveals considerable ignorance on the part of the author of the article.  (I'm not saying ACV is a panacea, but it's probably a better home remedy than some "experts" realize.) 

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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2018, 10:46:32 pm »
All of this anecdotal discussion about the usefulness of apple cider vinegar for dyspepsia reveals considerable ignorance on the part of the author of the article.  (I'm not saying ACV is a panacea, but it's probably a better home remedy than some "experts" realize.)

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All I can testify is that it works for me,and removes rust and weeds to boot. Kinda hard to beat a combo like that.
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Re: Does apple cider vinegar actually do anything?
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2018, 10:54:28 pm »
@the_doc

All I can testify is that it works for me,and removes rust and weeds to boot. Kinda hard to beat a combo like that.

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Do you buy organic apple cider vinegar?

Also, it's sold as something to aid in losing weight, pills don't cost too much.

BUT, my contribution to the topic that I'd swear too, is that a few years ago, I had a swelling in the ear area along with a cold or flu. I used the Bragg's organic apple cider vinegar by ear dropping and it seemed to take it down very fast. It might have to do with some other quality of vinegar or ACV but if one ever gets their ears plugged up swimming or something, I think it is worth a try. There are ear drops for swimmers with alcohol in them, so I think it must be some sort of similar situation that can dry out whatever is in the ear but that said, it worked very well for me when I had been struggling with this problem.

Some useful links, I know they claim benefits and the benefits may not be fully, fully proven but that can be up to each of us to decide.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/6-proven-health-benefits-of-apple-cider-vinegar#section5

http://youngscent.com/kombucha-vs-vinegar-the-new-age-of-fermented-drinks/

Organic health food store type organic apple cider vinger (ACV) and good ol' Heinz apple cider vinegar both have their places.
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« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2018, 11:15:13 pm »

BUT, my contribution to the topic that I'd swear too, is that a few years ago, I had a swelling in the ear area along with a cold or flu. I used the Bragg's organic apple cider vinegar by ear dropping and it seemed to take it down very fast. It might have to do with some other quality of vinegar or ACV but if one ever gets their ears plugged up swimming or something, I think it is worth a try.


Vinegar for ear canal infections is supposedly a well-documented medical treatment.  (If I recall correctly, it's in the old Merck Manual.  [I haven't checked it recently.])

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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2018, 11:16:52 pm »
Exactly Doc. That sums it up better than what I said. Thanks.
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Re: Does apple cider vinegar actually do anything?
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2018, 11:40:59 pm »
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Do you buy organic apple cider vinegar?

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No. I normally buy white vinegar by the gallon at the super market. I have bought the apple vinegar,but can't tell much difference.

 

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BUT, my contribution to the topic that I'd swear too, is that a few years ago, I had a swelling in the ear area along with a cold or flu. I used the Bragg's organic apple cider vinegar by ear dropping and it seemed to take it down very fast. It might have to do with some other quality of vinegar or ACV but if one ever gets their ears plugged up swimming or something, I think it is worth a try. There are ear drops for swimmers with alcohol in them, so I think it must be some sort of similar situation that can dry out whatever is in the ear but that said, it worked very well for me when I had been struggling with this problem.

I don't know about removing water,but I can see it working to remove ear wax,or wipe out a ear infection. I would definitely want to flush the ear out with sterile water afterwards,though.



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« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2018, 12:22:07 am »
To me, the best thing for ear infections is ozonated olive oil. My daughter, when she was small had a lot of ear infections. I built an ozonator with glass tubing, an aquarium air pump, and a neon sign xformer and bubbled the ozone thru the olive oil.