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Problem with that is that it is not a tomorrow  solution.  It’s a today solution.  Put some in the ground and they’re a helluva lot more likely to get the point that party time is over.

Don’t do that and all you’re demonstrating is that we aren’t REALLY serious.

It's a humanitarian solution for the time being.  How many of them if any are armed?
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Problem with that is that it is not a tomorrow  solution.  It’s a today solution.  Put some in the ground and they’re a helluva lot more likely to get the point that party time is over. 

Maybe we should build the wall and get a Congress to end catch and release before we "put some in the ground".

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Uhhh..... well.... I don't get it, but why would age have anything to do with it?

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It's a humanitarian solution for the time being.  How many of them if any are armed?

We don't know they could be armed.  Why would we put our military on the line without protection?
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Maybe we should build the wall and get a Congress to end catch and release before we "put some in the ground".

You have talked about progress on the wall before.  A four mile section.  What a waste.

In case you haven't noticed there are as some reports over 10,000 migrants wanting to cross illegal.  It has gotten to critical situation and Congress still can't do a thing.  What would do something would be Trump to declare state of emergency and send armed military to the border.  Signs should be posted in Spanish that armed military are guarding the border and have the authority to use whatever means they can to prevent illegal entry.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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We don't know they could be armed.  Why would we put our military on the line without protection?

Almost seems like they are the sacrificial lambs until the first one gets killed doesn't it? 
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You have talked about progress on the wall before.  A four mile section.  What a waste. 

I have also talked about Congress's role in all of this.  Now is your chance to make a difference in real time ... stop whining, get up and go vote Republican on Nov. 6.  And bring a caravan of your own with you.

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You have talked about progress on the wall before.  A four mile section.  What a waste.

In case you haven't noticed there are as some reports over 10,000 migrants wanting to cross illegal.  It has gotten to critical situation and Congress still can't do a thing.  What would do something would be Trump to declare state of emergency and send armed military to the border.  Signs should be posted in Spanish that armed military are guarding the border and have the authority to use whatever means they can to prevent illegal entry.

He needs to declare his intent and soon.  Supposedly he's declared a national emergency ... unfortunately, it's become a wait and see what happens.

Just a thought and not that I agree with it, but technically if they apply for asylum and are placed within this country, then its no longer an invasion.
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He needs to declare his intent and soon.  Supposedly he's declared a national emergency ... unfortunately, it's become a wait and see what happens.

Just a thought and not that I agree with it, but technically if they apply for asylum and are placed within this country, then its no longer an invasion.

I highly doubt many are going to apply for asylum.  Most are coming for jobs.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Now is your chance to make a difference in real time ... stop whining, get up and go vote Republican on Nov. 6.  And bring a caravan of your own with you.

Voting Republican is not going to make a whit of difference as the last 8 years alone have proven.
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I highly doubt many are going to apply for asylum.  Most are coming for jobs.

If they do apply for asylum, then they can wait for 12 mos., and apply for residency and they will be given a social security card and then they can legally work here.  That's the kicker to all this.
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Voting Republican is not going to make a whit of difference as the last 8 years alone have proven.

Okay ... then vote for Trump Republicans.   :smokin:

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I have also talked about Congress's role in all of this.  Now is your chance to make a difference in real time ... stop whining, get up and go vote Republican on Nov. 6.  And bring a caravan of your own with you.

I don't need to be belittled by you.  We had a majority the whole time Trump has been in office.  If Trump doesn't stop these criminals.  All of them criminals with the intent to break our law by entering illegally then he is the one whining.  He talks big and acts small.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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It's a humanitarian solution for the time being.  How many of them if any are armed?

The humanitarian solution is telling them for the last 500 miles of their little walk that they WILL be shot if they attempt to cross the border.  Anyone not prepared to do that has already lost this little fight because you’ve admitted that there is a line you will not cross.
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If they do apply for asylum, then they can wait for 12 mos., and apply for residency and they will be given a social security card and then they can legally work here.  That's the kicker to all this.

Yes, but most of them are not in any real danger from their country.  The kicker is UN deciding.  Should never happen.  We are a sovereign country.  That useless agency should be deported also.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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The humanitarian solution is telling them for the last 500 miles of their little walk that they WILL be shot if they attempt to cross the border.  Anyone not prepared to do that has already lost this little fight because you’ve admitted that there is a line you will not cross.

Why our military is so well trained.  Our police forces too.  You can't be afraid to act.  It will be your life.  I think your right.  They should be well informed that they are going to meet armed resistance at the border.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Problem with that is that it is not a tomorrow  solution.  It’s a today solution.  Put some in the ground and they’re a helluva lot more likely to get the point that party time is over.

Don’t do that and all you’re demonstrating is that we aren’t REALLY serious.

Can't do that anymore.   The world is way too small.

Cameras show events in real time.

Every effort has to be made to not take a human life...if for optics alone.


They could even call it Patriot Games and show it on Netflix.   The ones that make it across the border and past the kill zone win a 3 bedroom 2 bath rancher next to Harry Reid.
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Why our military is so well trained.  Our police forces too.  You can't be afraid to act.  It will be your life.  I think your right.  They should be well informed that they are going to meet armed resistance at the border.

Anyone not willing to do so is simply stating that the invasion forces lives are more important than our sovereign border security.  Period.

I vehemently disagree with that notion.
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I don't need to be belittled by you.  We had a majority the whole time Trump has been in office. 

I'm not belittling you.  I'm reminding you what needs to happen in Congress if we want to change the illegal immigration situation without starting a shooting war with half the hemisphere.

And bullshit on the "whole time we had a majority".  If one Republican Senator got sick, we lost the vote.  So stop with the hysterics and recognize what we've been up against.

And I repeat ... if you care half as much as you want people to believe, you will stop whining, get up and go vote Republican on Nov. 6 ... and bring a caravan with you.

Here's where you put up.

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I highly doubt many are going to apply for asylum.  Most are coming for jobs.


That's who I want cutting my lawn and landscaping.

Who wouldn't want to hire somebody who trekked on...despite the risks of being shot, etc.?   I'll take two.    :laugh:

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Yes, but most of them are not in any real danger from their country.  The kicker is UN deciding.  Should never happen.  We are a sovereign country.  That useless agency should be deported also.

The U.S. is also part of the UNHCR and is a host nation.  Trump agreed to the UN deciding.
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If they do apply for asylum, then they can wait for 12 mos., and apply for residency and they will be given a social security card and then they can legally work here.  That's the kicker to all this.

How, exactly, is 7,000 (or more) people going to apply for asylum in the US.... when our border enforcement is already overwhelmed and full-up?  There's not enough people to even do the paperwork, assuming that it gets that far.   Nah.  If the migrants aren't stopped dead in their tracks and prevented from entering the US, they will be allowed in, free as birds, to go where they want.... and to do what they want..... breaking our laws by even being here.   Trump had better not let that happen.
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How, exactly, is 7,000 (or more) people going to apply for asylum in the US.... when our border enforcement is already overwhelmed and full-up?  There's not enough people to even do the paperwork, assuming that it gets that far.   Nah.  If the migrants aren't stopped dead in their tracks and prevented from entering the US, they will be allowed in, free as birds, to go where they want.... and to do what they want..... breaking our laws by even being here.   Trump had better not let that happen.

....meanwhile ... Americans are sitting on their rockers on their front porches and doing nothing.  Imagine the message it would send if this mob was met at the border with US citizens with Spanish signs saying ... This is NOT your country.  Go Back!  You are NOT welcome. 

Truth be known, chances are the 1,200 unarmed guards at the border would probably turn us around.

I'm waiting till Nov. 6 before I cast my vote ... hopefully Trump will have taken a stand ... if he backs down ... then there's really no point in voting ... the outcome would be the same from both parties.  Just sayin'
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Okay ... then vote for Trump Republicans.   :smokin:

I'm done listening to the endless refrain each and every election cycle that insists we need to vote for more R's to save us from all the problems that they, themselves have funded, capitulated to or passed.

Nope.  I'm forever done with your party, Trumplican, Establishment or Liberal Democrat who ran as a Conservative to win office.  Forever done.

You are welcome to practice insanity to your heart's content and continue voting the same way and expecting different results, some of us know better than to do that.
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....meanwhile ... Americans are sitting on their rockers on their front porches and doing nothing.  Imagine the message it would send if this mob was met at the border with US citizens with Spanish signs saying ... This is NOT your country.  Go Back!  You are NOT welcome. 

Truth be known, chances are the 1,200 unarmed guards at the border would probably turn us around.

I'm waiting till Nov. 6 before I cast my vote ... hopefully Trump will have taken a stand ... if he backs down ... then there's really no point in voting ... the outcome would be the same from both parties.  Just sayin'

Yeah, I thought about doing that too.   But I think I'll go ahead and vote.... this time.   In the hopes that we will get another two years of sanity vs. the leftist insanity.   If Trump doesn't stick to his guns and his promise to send in the military, I'll withhold my vote in 2020.  It won't matter by then anyway, probably.
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