Author Topic: 2018/winter 2019 football season thread (Read 21517 times)

catfish1957 · « **Reply #50 on:** January 21, 2019, 12:12:19 am »

Quote from: dfwgator on January 20, 2019, 11:14:48 pm

The Raiders are still the most popular team in LA.

If the Rams win it all, it will be a tainted championship at best.

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #51 on:** January 21, 2019, 07:34:26 am »

Quote from: catfish1957 on January 21, 2019, 12:12:19 am

If the Rams win it all, it will be a tainted championship at best.

A Patriots win wouldn't be any better.

You know, when I started this thread, I said "no 'I'm boycotting' posts" but at this point, that's the only good result that can come of this game.

I can live with the Rams, but I'm just plain tired and bored of seeing the Patriots in the Super Bowl year, after year, after year. So, I won't watch.

TomSea · « **Reply #52 on:** January 21, 2019, 10:52:37 am »

Quote from: jmyrlefuller on January 20, 2019, 11:08:54 pm

The Chargers never belonged in LA to begin with.

I know what will eventually happen: the Chargers will move to the new stadium, still only draw 20,000 fans or so (most of them from the other team), and they'll break the lease and head to another city. Spanos has talked about going outside the U.S. in the past. Maybe he's the one that ends up moving to London.

The Rams have a long history there; I think they'll do OK in the long run. LA may not be a passionate football town, but it's got access to Hollywood and all the money that entails. Part of the reason they lost steam in the 80s and 90s was the Raiders coming in and sucking out all the attention.

For the record, the Chargers started in Los Angeles but that is ancient history, they had a quarterback named Jack Kemp.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kemp
Chargers were in LA their first year at least.

Anyway, I hardly watched a full-NFL game this year, maybe none fully. I'm not too absorbed with who won or lost. The league is hyped up and we see how they stabbed many of their fans in the back, let alone, getting taxpayers to subsidize stadiums and so on.

The Rams were making noise all year. I watched most of that Kansas City-Ram game. The Rams don't have 3 or 4 losses for no reason at all. They have been a good team. If one says the refs favored them or something, I'm not arguing that. Maybe so.

TomSea · « **Reply #53 on:** January 21, 2019, 07:44:19 pm »

Saints owner issues statement, well he should. This is probably in response to that play with video that was posted in this thread:

https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Saints-owner-issues-statement-as-controversial-loss-halts-Super-Bowl-run-578200?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

GrouchoTex · « **Reply #54 on:** January 22, 2019, 10:03:12 am »

Quote from: Hoodat on January 20, 2019, 09:53:52 pm

Just turned on the game to root against the Cheatriots. I see Brady throw his third INT, only to have it called back because of an offsides penalty the network refused to re-show. This league is rigged.

There also was that bogus "roughing the passer" call on 3rd down, in the 4th quarter, that helped them out.

mountaineer · « **Reply #55 on:** January 22, 2019, 12:48:43 pm »

I saw the offsides. It was legit. The defender was practically in the offensive backfield. The roughing the passer penalty was arguable, to say the least.

Hoodat · « **Reply #56 on:** January 22, 2019, 05:36:44 pm »

TomSea · « **Reply #57 on:** January 27, 2019, 07:36:17 am »

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NFL opposes Rams-Saints do-over, saying it could cost league more than $100M: court filing
By Paulina Dedaj | Fox News

A rematch of last weekendâ€™s NFC Championship Game due to bad call could cost the league millions, the NFL said Friday.

NFL Chief Financial Officer Joseph Siclare said in a sworn affidavit that replaying the final minutes of last Sundayâ€™s game between the Los Angeles Rams and the New Orleans Saints because of a bad call could cost the NFL â€œmore than $100 millionâ€ because it could mean delaying Super Bowl LIII.

Read more at: https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-says-rams-saints-rematch-could-cost-millions

Once I totally reviewed all the info on this "non-call", I've lost total interest. Calls go both ways, I should not have disgust for the Rams and then, in turn cheer the Patriots....but I don't blame people for however they feel. All they can do is patch up the rule now, which they will in the off season.

Jerry Jones said over the past week, that call that benefited the Patriots per the punt or kickoff (whichever), that evidence to me and apparently to him, does not seem overwhelming enough to reverse that call on whether the receiver touched it or not. I think in all likelihood, it didn't touch him but it still is so close, almost too close to call.

I'm still not watching much of this game. Too disappointed from the past really.

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #58 on:** January 27, 2019, 08:31:03 am »

They could make all that money up and more just by selling the TV rights. Come on.

That said, though... Season ticket holders have no financial standing to sue. As a fan, they gain nothing and are not harmed in the legal sense, regardless of whether the Saints win or lose. The Saints players and coaches, on the other hand, since they lost money in it (the winner's share of the championship game, plus whatever they'll make for Super Bowl LIII), could possibly sue.

Machiavelli · « **Reply #59 on:** February 02, 2019, 11:51:40 am »

Eric Dickerson: Patriots cheated against the Rams 17 years ago

NBC Sports Boston Report
February 1, 2019

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Eric Dickerson is a legend in all respects, a Hall of Famer and one of the best running backs to ever play the game.

He also used to play for the Rams. And like most Rams fans, he's convinced that the Patriots cheated during their last Super Bowl matchup against the Rams.

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kevindavis007 · « **Reply #60 on:** February 03, 2019, 09:36:21 am »

This could be the lowest-rated Super Bowl.

catfish1957 · « **Reply #61 on:** February 03, 2019, 10:00:26 am »

Quote from: kevindavis on February 03, 2019, 09:36:21 am

This could be the lowest-rated Super Bowl.

I have watched every Super Bowl since the first one. This will be the first one I miss.

Saint's revenge.

DCPatriot · « **Reply #62 on:** February 03, 2019, 10:21:39 am »

Quote from: kevindavis on February 03, 2019, 09:36:21 am

This could be the lowest-rated Super Bowl.

Because of the boycotters in the New Orleans region?

They think too much of themselves, IMO.

This Super Bowl offers much history. Does the Grasshopper grab the pebble from Tom Brady's opened palm?

Does a rookie coach win it all?

kevindavis007 · « **Reply #63 on:** February 03, 2019, 10:25:32 am »

Quote from: DCPatriot on February 03, 2019, 10:21:39 am

Because of the boycotters in the New Orleans region?

They think too much of themselves, IMO.

This Super Bowl offers much history. Does the Grasshopper grab the pebble from Tom Brady's opened palm?

Does a rookie coach win it all?

From that region yes, but I there is very very low enthusiamsim for this game mainly cause again the Patriots are in the Super Bowl.

catfish1957 · « **Reply #64 on:** February 03, 2019, 11:33:43 am »

Quote from: DCPatriot on February 03, 2019, 10:21:39 am

Because of the boycotters in the New Orleans region?

They think too much of themselves, IMO.

@DCPatriot

Where did anyone say or infer that? I can't speak for other Saint fans, but I simply choose not to reward the NFL, and their sponsors for extreme sub-par officiating.

Pretty damn presumptious on your part if you ask me.

DCPatriot · « **Reply #65 on:** February 03, 2019, 01:24:32 pm »

Quote from: catfish1957 on February 03, 2019, 11:33:43 am

@DCPatriot

Where did anyone say or infer that? I can't speak for other Saint fans, but I simply choose not to reward the NFL, and their sponsors for extreme sub-par officiating.

Pretty damn presumptious on your part if you ask me.

No insults intended, @catfish1957

I read in on an ESPN site...that the theory was that television ratings would be down due to the manner in which the Saints were robbed.

Even bars in the French Quarter vowed not to televise the Game.

To that, I figured there were a lot more Patriot-haters across the country that were going to check in to see this new style of high-scoring offenses the RAMS and CHIEFS showed all year.

catfish1957 · « **Reply #66 on:** February 03, 2019, 01:57:07 pm »

Quote from: DCPatriot on February 03, 2019, 01:24:32 pm

No insults intended, @catfish1957

I read in on an ESPN site...that the theory was that television ratings would be down due to the manner in which the Saints were robbed.

Even bars in the French Quarter vowed not to televise the Game.

To that, I figured there were a lot more Patriot-haters across the country that were going to check in to see this new style of high-scoring offenses the RAMS and CHIEFS showed all year.

Cheers, and here's to 2 months till baseball season.

mountaineer · « **Reply #67 on:** February 03, 2019, 01:59:49 pm »

Yes, the Saints were victimized by a bad call. But if the outcome of a game and the team's entire season hinges on one pass play, you probably didn't deserve to win that game. My Stillers got bad calls all season long - but they also didn't play very well, thus, no playoffs.

Axeslinger · « **Reply #68 on:** February 03, 2019, 02:31:13 pm »

Quote from: catfish1957 on February 03, 2019, 01:57:07 pm

Cheers, and here's to 2 months till baseball season.

@catfish1957
You misspelled â€œlacrosseâ€

Axeslinger · « **Reply #69 on:** February 03, 2019, 02:35:57 pm »

Quote from: mountaineer on February 03, 2019, 01:59:49 pm

Yes, the Saints were victimized by a bad call. But if the outcome of a game and the team's entire season hinges on one pass play, you probably didn't deserve to win that game. My Stillers got bad calls all season long - but they also didn't play very well, thus, no playoffs.

Normally Iâ€™d agree with that but the timing of that bad call is what made it so catastrophic. Because of that bad call it forced a fourth down with a little time on the clock. Which means the rams had more time and only had to drive a short field to kick a tying FG. Had the call been made it would have been 1st down. if the rams had even gotten the ball back they would have had almost no time to do anything even if the Aints had still only managed a FG.

(BTW, Iâ€™m a panthers fan so most DEFINITELY NOT a saints fan!!!)

catfish1957 · « **Reply #70 on:** February 03, 2019, 02:59:39 pm »

Quote from: Axeslinger on February 03, 2019, 02:35:57 pm

Normally Iâ€™d agree with that but the timing of that bad call is what made it so catastrophic. Because of that bad call it forced a fourth down with a little time on the clock. Which means the rams had more time and only had to drive a short field to kick a tying FG. Had the call been made it would have been 1st down. if the rams had even gotten the ball back they would have had almost no time to do anything even if the Aints had still only managed a FG.

(BTW, Iâ€™m a panthers fan so most DEFINITELY NOT a saints fan!!!)

@Axeslinger

I have argued that point ad nauseam.

Add the point that the culprit ref was looking right at the play a few feet away, and then..... waved another official away who was likely going to discuss an overcall...... Considering the stakes, you really gotta wonder what was going on in the head of that SOB.

kevindavis007 · « **Reply #71 on:** February 03, 2019, 04:43:38 pm »

Well in 6 days there is the Alliance of American Football
https://aaf.com/

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #72 on:** February 03, 2019, 04:53:59 pm »

Quote from: kevindavis on February 03, 2019, 04:43:38 pm

Well in 6 days there is the Alliance of American Football
https://aaf.com/

I'm not particularly impressed as a football fan with the kind of players they were able to get. They seem to have surprisingly robust funding and their coaches are fairly good... but when your marquee names are people like Zach Mettenberger and Trent Richardson, it's hard to get all that enthused. Will I watch? Sure, but I don't anticipate being impressed.

I liked the UFL of what's now a decade ago (despite Pelosi's involvement). They had great coaches, good players who had success at the NFL level (Jeff Garcia, Ahman Green, Daunte Culpepper), and paid about the same amount of money. The AAF seems to have dug into the dredges of minor league football.

I'm interested to see what the new XFL has to offer next year. The tweaks I've read about look to make the game pretty interesting, and it certainly doesn't look like Vince McMahon is going to make the same tacky mistakes he made in 2001.

Alas, there's always arena football.

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #73 on:** February 03, 2019, 05:11:03 pm »

Super Bowl LIII Live Thread

kevindavis007 · « **Reply #74 on:** February 03, 2019, 05:11:03 pm »

Quote from: jmyrlefuller on February 03, 2019, 04:53:59 pm

I'm not particularly impressed as a football fan with the kind of players they were able to get. They seem to have surprisingly robust funding and their coaches are fairly good... but when your marquee names are people like Zach Mettenberger and Trent Richardson, it's hard to get all that enthused. Will I watch? Sure, but I don't anticipate being impressed.

I liked the UFL of what's now a decade ago (despite Pelosi's involvement). They had great coaches, good players who had success at the NFL level (Jeff Garcia, Ahman Green, Daunte Culpepper), and paid about the same amount of money. The AAF seems to have dug into the dredges of minor league football.

I'm interested to see what the new XFL has to offer next year. The tweaks I've read about look to make the game pretty interesting, and it certainly doesn't look like Vince McMahon is going to make the same tacky mistakes he made in 2001.

Alas, there's always arena football.

I do have low standards for this league, but I think this going to the NFL Farm system.

I did watch the UFL and it had potential, but they should have never gone against the NFL.

Same here, I'm more excited about the new XFL.

Arena football is fading away. I think the league is down to six teams I believe.

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #75 on:** February 03, 2019, 05:14:36 pm »

Quote from: kevindavis on February 03, 2019, 05:11:03 pm

Arena football is fading away. I think the league is down to six teams I believe.

Five, actually, and only three owners among them. But they're not the only league anymoreâ€”there's the NAL on the East Coast, then CIF and the IFL in the midwest. (There's also the AAL, but that's really just semi-pro.)

kevindavis007 · « **Reply #76 on:** February 03, 2019, 05:22:04 pm »

Quote from: jmyrlefuller on February 03, 2019, 05:14:36 pm

Five, actually, and only three owners among them. But they're not the only league anymoreâ€”there's the NAL on the East Coast, then CIF and the IFL in the midwest. (There's also the AAL, but that's really just semi-pro.)

That is correct, the Arena Football has kinda splinetered.

InHeavenThereIsNoBeer · « **Reply #77 on:** February 03, 2019, 09:08:03 pm »

Only 30 days until LFL

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #78 on:** February 04, 2019, 07:18:05 pm »

I've decided to change the title and keep this thread going through the winter with the alternative leagues if anybody wants to say anything about them.

EasyAce · « **Reply #79 on:** February 04, 2019, 07:20:37 pm »

The top ten film titles that could have applied to Snoozer Bowl LIII . . .

10) The Big Sleep
9) Vertigo
8) While You Were Sleeping
7) Sleeping Beauty
6) Coma
5) Sleeper
4) Flatliners
3) Sleeping with the Enemy
2) The Plague of the Zombies

. . . and, the number one film title that could have applied to Snore Bowl LIII . . .

1) The Dead Zone

kevindavis007 · « **Reply #80 on:** February 09, 2019, 09:07:10 pm »

So far I'm liking the AAF.

1. Much faster pace (no tv timeouts)
2. Actually playing football

The only thing I question is that there is no kickoffs.

InHeavenThereIsNoBeer · « **Reply #81 on:** February 09, 2019, 10:20:26 pm »

Quote from: kevindavis on February 09, 2019, 09:07:10 pm

So far I'm liking the AAF.

1. Much faster pace (no tv timeouts)
2. Actually playing football

The only thing I question is that there is no kickoffs.

I suspect the kickoff as we knew it is a thing of the past.

kevindavis007 · « **Reply #82 on:** February 09, 2019, 10:22:23 pm »

Quote from: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on February 09, 2019, 10:20:26 pm

I suspect the kickoff as we knew it is a thing of the past.

I thnk you are right.

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #83 on:** February 10, 2019, 09:21:59 am »

I liked the production. I ended up watching the online feed, which had almost no commercials, and it felt a little awkward at times. The TV side of things was good, and the fans came out to support the team, especially in San Antonio.

The on-field product? Well, it was a first ever game, so yeah, it was kind of sloppy. I feel bad for Atlantaâ€”I didn't watch much of that one, but from what I read, their head coach and offensive coordinator quit shortly before the season started, and Steve Spurrier made them pay. (Which is funny since there were a few articles from the past few days suggesting that Spurrier was over the hill and wasn't in touch with the modern game... then he runs the Philly Special. About that...)

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #84 on:** February 10, 2019, 01:57:43 pm »

Well, it looks like the AAF is doing something right: it got more viewers than the NBA did.
https://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-saturday-february-10-2019/

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #85 on:** February 15, 2019, 09:10:54 am »

Kaepernick update:
His asking price right now? $20,000,000. And he had the audacity to demand that from a league that pays $70,000 a year.

Gee, I wonder why he hasn't been signed yet!

https://www.apnews.com/699ba621f5fb414d8708513ea294e49e

mountaineer · « **Reply #86 on:** March 01, 2019, 06:10:43 pm »

Anyone else not believe Kyler Murray is 5'10-1/8"? An ESPN reporterette who is under 5'7" said she interviewed him and they were eye to eye.

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #87 on:** March 02, 2019, 12:25:24 pm »

Quote from: mountaineer on March 01, 2019, 06:10:43 pm

Anyone else not believe Kyler Murray is 5'10-1/8"? An ESPN reporterette who is under 5'7" said she interviewed him and they were eye to eye.

She could've been in heels.

5'10 is about as short as a guy can get and still be an effective NFL quarterbackâ€”Doug Flutie was the last guy I remember being that short and being successful, and even he took a long time to break through as a star.

If Murray were any shorter than 5'10 I am pretty sure he would be playing baseball because no NFL team would touch a QB that short. I guess we'll find out come Draft Day if he suddenly drops well lower than expected.

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #88 on:** September 02, 2019, 10:06:11 am »

New season, new thread.