Author Topic: 2018/winter 2019 football season thread (Read 21541 times)

jmyrlefuller · « **on:** October 17, 2018, 01:33:56 pm »

I just realized that since Bender stopped posting, there doesn't seem to be a place to talk football on here. So, I'm starting a thread... better late than never.

You can talk NFL, college football, whatever on this thread. I only ask that, unless someone pulls a protest stunt, we keep the "I'm boycotting" harping to a minimum. It's a thread devoted to the sport.

Sighlass · « **Reply #1 on:** October 17, 2018, 02:41:05 pm »

Being that I am an Auburn Tigers (War Eagle) fan and Tennessee just beat us, I imagine my input will be limited.

MOD8 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 17, 2018, 03:26:46 pm »

Topic Stickied.

mountaineer · « **Reply #3 on:** December 30, 2018, 08:59:40 am »

Notre Dame last night again proved (for the umpteenth time) it has no business being ranked in the top 10. People are calling for no more ND in the college football playoffs until the Fighting Irish win a conference title - and stop filling the schedule with Little Sisters of the Poor-calibre teams.

Hoodat · « **Reply #4 on:** December 30, 2018, 03:39:08 pm »

Q: What is the difference between Notre Dame and Lucky Charms?

A: Lucky Charms belongs in a bowl.

mountaineer · « **Reply #5 on:** December 30, 2018, 03:55:30 pm »

Amen to that. Notre Dame has to be the most overrated football team in recent memory.

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #6 on:** December 30, 2018, 04:42:31 pm »

Quote from: mountaineer on December 30, 2018, 03:55:30 pm

Amen to that. Notre Dame has to be the most overrated football team in recent memory.

Well, that's what these playoffs are supposed to sort out.

Not that the Playoff helped much this year. We ended up with 1, 2 and a fairly distant 3 and 4... and UCF still couldn't get higher than 8 after they proved the committee dead wrong last year. All the while, we end up with a Clemson/Alabama playoff game for the fourth year in a row.

catfish1957 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 30, 2018, 04:49:29 pm »

Quote from: mountaineer on December 30, 2018, 03:55:30 pm

Amen to that. Notre Dame has to be the most overrated football team in recent memory.

After the first half of last night's game, I thought the same of OU... (Or that the Tide was an NFL team disguised as college kids).

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #8 on:** December 30, 2018, 04:54:02 pm »

Quote from: catfish1957 on December 30, 2018, 04:49:29 pm

After the first half of last night's game, I thought the same of OU... (Or that the Tide was an NFL team disguised as college kids).

Alabama just seems like they're in a league of their own this year.

They're probably good enough that they could probably beat last year's Cleveland Browns. (There's a lot of parity this year in the NFL; even the worst teams have won three times against other NFL teams.) I've heard that there's no way a college team could ever beat an NFL team, but I don't think soâ€”a truly dysfunctional NFL team could lose to anyone, including Alabama.

Gefn · « **Reply #9 on:** December 30, 2018, 05:35:53 pm »

Quote from: jmyrlefuller on December 30, 2018, 04:54:02 pm

Alabama just seems like they're in a league of their own this year.

They're probably good enough that they could probably beat last year's Cleveland Browns. (There's a lot of parity this year in the NFL; even the worst teams have won three times against other NFL teams.) I've heard that there's no way a college team could ever beat an NFL team, but I don't think soâ€”a truly dysfunctional NFL team could lose to anyone, including Alabama.

Roll tide

the_doc · « **Reply #10 on:** December 30, 2018, 06:15:02 pm »

Quote from: mountaineer on December 30, 2018, 08:59:40 am

Notre Dame last night again proved (for the umpteenth time) it has no business being ranked in the top 10. People are calling for no more ND in the college football playoffs until the Fighting Irish win a conference title - and stop filling the schedule with Little Sisters of the Poor-calibre teams.

ND has had some really good teams in the past, especially in the early 1970s, but more often than not, I'm afraid that they have been overrated since then. (Some good teams since the '70s, I'm sure, but lots of disappointments versus the traditional hype.)

Hoodat · « **Reply #11 on:** December 30, 2018, 10:51:57 pm »

Quote from: Freya on December 30, 2018, 05:35:53 pm

Roll tide

Rammer Jammer!

InHeavenThereIsNoBeer · « **Reply #12 on:** December 30, 2018, 11:08:17 pm »

Quote from: jmyrlefuller on December 30, 2018, 04:54:02 pm

Alabama just seems like they're in a league of their own this year.

They're probably good enough that they could probably beat last year's Cleveland Browns. (There's a lot of parity this year in the NFL; even the worst teams have won three times against other NFL teams.) I've heard that there's no way a college team could ever beat an NFL team, but I don't think soâ€”a truly dysfunctional NFL team could lose to anyone, including Alabama.

This is one big reason I don't like the playoffs. Alabama (for example), has recently played two or three more games than other teams (conf champ, semi, final). Therefore, the best recruits want to go to AL. That means AL will probably be successful and play more games, and therefore recruit better, etc, etc, etc.

catfish1957 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 31, 2018, 01:19:35 am »

Quote from: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on December 30, 2018, 11:08:17 pm

This is one big reason I don't like the playoffs. Alabama (for example), has recently played two or three more games than other teams (conf champ, semi, final). Therefore, the best recruits want to go to AL. That means AL will probably be successful and play more games, and therefore recruit better, etc, etc, etc.

You make good points. No where else in American Sports is there such a blatant lack of parity. Of the 130 FBS schools, I bet odds are that probability of championship of about 10 elite schools has a about a 95% chance of success in a season. The other 120? Probably 5% cumulatively,

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #14 on:** December 31, 2018, 10:48:29 am »

Quote from: catfish1957 on December 31, 2018, 01:19:35 am

You make good points. No where else in American Sports is there such a blatant lack of parity. Of the 130 FBS schools, I bet odds are that probability of championship of about 10 elite schools has a about a 95% chance of success in a season. The other 120? Probably 5% cumulatively,

It's probably even less equitable than that. That 5% is split among 50 schools in the Power Five conferences. The other 70? Zero chance. Ask UCF.

mountaineer · « **Reply #15 on:** December 31, 2018, 12:03:53 pm »

Quote from: jmyrlefuller on December 31, 2018, 10:48:29 am

Zero chance. Ask UCF.

No school got such a raw deal this year as UCF.

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #16 on:** January 02, 2019, 09:18:36 am »

Quote from: mountaineer on December 31, 2018, 12:03:53 pm

No school got such a raw deal this year as UCF.

Last year, definitely. They should've been number 4 instead of Alabama. The 12 ranking they got was an utter joke given how weak the competition was that year (not a single undefeated team in the Power Five).

This year, I had them at 5. This year in their bowl they lost closely to LSUâ€”a team that had handily beat Georgia, which the CFP committee had at 5, three spots higher than UCF. With that loss, I might put them at 6 and move Ohio State (which I had at 6 before the bowls, then won decisively last night) up to 5.

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #17 on:** January 07, 2019, 07:54:59 am »

NFL playoff highlights:

The Legend of Nick Foles lives on as the Eagles narrowly beat the Bears on a missed field goal
https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019010601/2018/POST18/Eagles@Bears
Cowboys defeat Seahawks, 24-22
https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019010501/2018/POST18/Seahawks@Cowboys?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2019010501
Chargers hold off Ravens, 23-17, as Lamar Jackson's comeback bid comes up short
https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019010600/2018/POST18/Chargers@Ravens?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2019010600
Frank Reich defeats Houston in the wildcard round (again): Colts defeat Texans, 21-7
https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019010500/2018/POST18/Colts@Texans?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2019010500

Up next: Conference Semifinals ("Divisional")
Colts @ Chiefs, Chargers @ Patriots
Eagles @ Saints, Cowboys @ Rams

catfish1957 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 07, 2019, 07:58:54 am »

The Bear's mascot's reaction after the missed FG is comic gold.

Sorry...

mountaineer · « **Reply #19 on:** January 07, 2019, 12:16:27 pm »

The Bears-Eagles game was a real nail-biter. That poor kicker seems to have a bad habit of bouncing 'em off the upright, especially at inopportune times.

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #20 on:** January 07, 2019, 11:47:42 pm »

Upset! Clemson Tigers are national champions, rout Alabama Crimson Tide 44-16

Ghost Bear · « **Reply #21 on:** January 07, 2019, 11:53:51 pm »

Quote from: jmyrlefuller on January 07, 2019, 11:47:42 pm

Upset! Clemson Tigers are national champions, rout Alabama Crimson Tide 44-16

Sorry...

mountaineer · « **Reply #22 on:** January 08, 2019, 09:09:44 am »

Quote from: jmyrlefuller on January 07, 2019, 11:47:42 pm

Upset! Clemson Tigers are national champions, rout Alabama Crimson Tide 44-16

That was quite a thrashing. Alabama's QB did not live up to expectations.

Hoodat · « **Reply #23 on:** January 11, 2019, 01:36:19 pm »

Quote from: mountaineer on January 08, 2019, 09:09:44 am

That was quite a thrashing. Alabama's QB did not live up to expectations.

Nor did their coaching.

dfwgator · « **Reply #24 on:** January 11, 2019, 01:38:29 pm »

Quote from: jmyrlefuller on January 07, 2019, 11:47:42 pm

Upset! Clemson Tigers are national champions, rout Alabama Crimson Tide 44-16

SEC Shorts - Teams visit a laid up Alabama after Championship Game

Sorry...

mountaineer · « **Reply #25 on:** January 11, 2019, 02:17:46 pm »

Quote from: Hoodat on January 11, 2019, 01:36:19 pm

Nor did their coaching.

It was strange that the running game pooped out whenever they got within the 20 yard line!

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #26 on:** January 11, 2019, 02:38:39 pm »

Quote from: mountaineer on January 11, 2019, 02:17:46 pm

It was strange that the running game pooped out whenever they got within the 20 yard line!

Y'know, the worst part of that game was that Saban must have gone for it at least four times on fourth-and-whatever in the red zone. I hate to come off as overly conservative (oh, who am I kidding? This is a conservative forum), but if they'd've converted just two out of four field goals there, that's a three-possession game. If they'd made all four, that's a two-possession game, and they don't have to jump to a passing game that failed them all night.

Hoodat · « **Reply #27 on:** January 11, 2019, 04:43:11 pm »

@dfwgator

The last QB to beat BAMA that badly was Danny Wuerffel.

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #28 on:** January 14, 2019, 08:12:10 pm »

Divisional roundup:

AFC:
Chiefs defeat Colts, 31-13
First-half trouncing proves enough as Chargers comeback attempt falls short, Pats win 41-28, Brady still makes mockery of professional football

NFC:
Rams defeat Cowboys, 30-22
"NO" repeat: Saints knock off Foles and the Eagles, 20-14

catfish1957 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 14, 2019, 11:45:54 pm »

Disgusting pass interference non-call at the end of the NFC championship. What an embarrassment for the NFL.

Hoodat · « **Reply #30 on:** January 20, 2019, 08:58:35 pm »

Back to the NFL

How is this not pass interference?

dfwgator · « **Reply #31 on:** January 20, 2019, 09:20:28 pm »

Quote from: Hoodat on January 20, 2019, 08:58:35 pm

Back to the NFL

How is this not pass interference?

How is it not a personal foul for helmet-to-helmet contact?

dfwgator · « **Reply #32 on:** January 20, 2019, 09:21:39 pm »

Quote from: catfish1957 on January 14, 2019, 11:45:54 pm

Disgusting pass interference non-call at the end of the NFC championship. What an embarrassment for the NFL.

I have no interest in what happens from here on out, other than the Rams getting creamed in the Super Bowl. But I won't be watching.

mountaineer · « **Reply #33 on:** January 20, 2019, 09:33:37 pm »

Officiating has stunk all year. Why should the playoffs be any different?

dfwgator · « **Reply #34 on:** January 20, 2019, 09:34:44 pm »

Quote from: mountaineer on January 20, 2019, 09:33:37 pm

Officiating has stunk all year. Why should the playoffs be any different?

NFL had to do something to beef up excitement in the LA market, since nobody really cares about the Rams or Chargers there.

TomSea · « **Reply #35 on:** January 20, 2019, 09:52:36 pm »

Can't believe this will slip through the Chiefs' hands but it looks like it.... 39 seconds, you never know. Very good game though imho.

Hoodat · « **Reply #36 on:** January 20, 2019, 09:53:52 pm »

Just turned on the game to root against the Cheatriots. I see Brady throw his third INT, only to have it called back because of an offsides penalty the network refused to re-show. This league is rigged.

mountaineer · « **Reply #37 on:** January 20, 2019, 09:54:46 pm »

I'm convinced the league wants KC to win. Mahomes is the "it" guy.

TomSea · « **Reply #38 on:** January 20, 2019, 09:56:31 pm »

Break for KC along with a great pass.... down to around the 20 yard line of NE... how about that. FG ties, TD wins... (obviously)...

dfwgator · « **Reply #39 on:** January 20, 2019, 10:17:38 pm »

I hope the Patriots destroy the Rams*.

Hoodat · « **Reply #40 on:** January 20, 2019, 10:19:50 pm »

I hope they both lose.

TomSea · « **Reply #41 on:** January 20, 2019, 10:26:46 pm »

I've got to think the Rams will be favored....both of these games went to OT, so...yes, a team won but it was drawn at regulation, fwiw. Just like in soccer.

EasyAce · « **Reply #42 on:** January 20, 2019, 10:26:49 pm »

Quote from: catfish1957 on January 14, 2019, 11:45:54 pm

Disgusting pass interference non-call at the end of the NFC championship. What an embarrassment for the NFL.

@catfish1957
I didn't know Don Denkinger was an NFL referee.

Ghost Bear · « **Reply #43 on:** January 20, 2019, 10:38:46 pm »

Quote from: Hoodat on January 20, 2019, 09:53:52 pm

Just turned on the game to root against the Cheatriots. I see Brady throw his third INT, only to have it called back because of an offsides penalty the network refused to re-show. This league is rigged.

They're not even hiding the rigging very well any more.

dfwgator · « **Reply #44 on:** January 20, 2019, 10:58:51 pm »

Quote from: EasyAce on January 20, 2019, 10:26:49 pm

@catfish1957
I didn't know Don Denkinger was an NFL referee.

More like Mr. Magoo.

TomSea · « **Reply #45 on:** January 20, 2019, 11:06:58 pm »

Quote from: Hoodat on January 20, 2019, 08:58:35 pm

Back to the NFL

How is this not pass interference?

Not just personal foul, that stuff nowadays should see an ejection.

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #46 on:** January 20, 2019, 11:08:54 pm »

Quote from: dfwgator on January 20, 2019, 09:34:44 pm

NFL had to do something to beef up excitement in the LA market, since nobody really cares about the Rams or Chargers there.

The Chargers never belonged in LA to begin with.

I know what will eventually happen: the Chargers will move to the new stadium, still only draw 20,000 fans or so (most of them from the other team), and they'll break the lease and head to another city. Spanos has talked about going outside the U.S. in the past. Maybe he's the one that ends up moving to London.

The Rams have a long history there; I think they'll do OK in the long run. LA may not be a passionate football town, but it's got access to Hollywood and all the money that entails. Part of the reason they lost steam in the 80s and 90s was the Raiders coming in and sucking out all the attention.

dfwgator · « **Reply #47 on:** January 20, 2019, 11:14:48 pm »

Quote from: jmyrlefuller on January 20, 2019, 11:08:54 pm

The Chargers never belonged in LA to begin with.

I know what will eventually happen: the Chargers will move to the new stadium, still only draw 20,000 fans or so (most of them from the other team), and they'll break the lease and head to another city. Spanos has talked about going outside the U.S. in the past. Maybe he's the one that ends up moving to London.

The Rams have a long history there; I think they'll do OK in the long run. LA may not be a passionate football town, but it's got access to Hollywood and all the money that entails. Part of the reason they lost steam in the 80s and 90s was the Raiders coming in and sucking out all the attention.

The Raiders are still the most popular team in LA.

EasyAce · « **Reply #48 on:** January 20, 2019, 11:18:45 pm »

Quote from: dfwgator on January 20, 2019, 10:58:51 pm

More like Mr. Magoo.

@dfwgator
Please---Magoo, Ray Charles, and Stevie Wonder would have gotten the call right!

SZonian · « **Reply #49 on:** January 20, 2019, 11:41:48 pm »

Damn it...neither of my picks are in (Chiefs and Saints)...just because I hate LA less than New England, go Rams...ungh. I so want that arrogant ass Brady to lose again. But seeing as how he's not facing the NFC East in the SB, he'll probably win...sigh. Signed, Eagles Phan!