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Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare

By Andrew O'Reilly

Published October 11, 2018


Former first lady Michelle Obama on Thursday openly challenged calls from Hillary Clinton and Eric Holder for Democrats to eschew civility in favor of confrontational politics, saying she "absolutely" stands by her famous slogan, "when they go low, we go high."

“Fear is not ... a proper motivator,” Obama said during an interview on NBC's “Today.” “Hope wins out, and if you think about how you want your kids to be raised, how you want them to think about life and their opportunities, do you want them afraid of their neighbors? Do you want them angry? Do you want them vengeful?”


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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2018, 12:46:28 am »
Interesting that she would take a stand against them.  Good for her.  She is absolutely right.
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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2018, 12:58:57 am »
Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare

Former first lady Michelle Obama on Thursday openly challenged calls from Hillary Clinton and Eric Holder for Democrats to eschew civility in favor of confrontational politics, saying she "absolutely" stands by her famous slogan, "when they go low, we go high."

“Fear is not ... a proper motivator,” Obama said during an interview on NBC's “Today.” “Hope wins out, and if you think about how you want your kids to be raised, how you want them to think about life and their opportunities, do you want them afraid of their neighbors? Do you want them angry? Do you want them vengeful?”

I'd like to say Mrs Obama's comments are commendable, but then @jpsb will call me a commie Marxist.  So I'll just giggle maniacally in a corner as the rats eat themselves.
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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2018, 01:01:40 am »
Interesting that she would take a stand against them.  Good for her.  She is absolutely right.

I have to say that was very well said.  Seeing a different side of her.
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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2018, 01:28:23 am »

I'll add my kudos to Michelle.


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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2018, 01:48:15 am »
Kudos to Michelle on this.
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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2018, 01:57:40 am »
I especially hope those young Democrats who admire her will think carefully about what she said.
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2018, 01:59:49 am »
Perhaps the first thing she’s said that I agree with.
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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2018, 07:16:40 am »
Interesting..... Maybe fauxcahontas is out and Mooch will be the new standard bearer over there in DNC land. (running in 2020?)
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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2018, 09:28:16 am »
Interesting..... Maybe fauxcahontas is out and Mooch will be the new standard bearer over there in DNC land. (running in 2020?)


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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2018, 09:45:55 am »

Headline said to me "This does not compute."

You may well be onto something here.

The rest of the chum tossing out feelers for the nomination would virtually assure Trump a 2nd term.

She fits the profile: POC and female.

And the fools who voted Barack in will look very favorably on her.
Don't ignore the most media fawning over a FLOTUS since Jackie Kennedy, either. That groundwork has been done.
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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2018, 11:31:02 am »
While I agree she said the right things, perhaps we should take her new reasonable approach with the same skepticism with which we view Kanye West's new conservatism.
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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2018, 12:08:19 pm »
Interesting..... Maybe fauxcahontas is out and Mooch will be the new standard bearer over there in DNC land. (running in 2020?)

She has in the past denied a plan to run in 2020, but my hunch is that she will and I think she will give Trump a run for his money.

Can you imagine the platform she'd be running on?  The first Black FEMALE to run for president.  That politically correct platform alone could win her the White House.

She has name recognition, the left adores her and Bammy, she speaks very effectively and she has remained in the public eye since Bammy left office.  She continues to speak out for women's rights and she has been an advocate especially for young girls.
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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2018, 12:13:45 pm »
While I agree she said the right things, perhaps we should take her new reasonable approach with the same skepticism with which we view Kanye West's new conservatism.

I certainly understand where you're coming from, but throughout Bammy's presidency, she never advocated for violence.  She's always come across as a goody-two-shoes even.  I don't like her viewpoints and liberalism (and definitely not her fashion style), but she hasn't displayed the abruptness of its either her way or the highway that Hillary does, nor does she yell and shriek like Hillary when she speaks. She speaks very well.

If I recall though, she does have a past of being racist in her college days?
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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2018, 12:54:16 pm »
Yup -- Good for her.

This should be a bit of the canary in the coal mine for Democrats.  If Michele Obama is this directly criticizing two former cabinet members from her husband's Administration because they've gone top far...maybe they should wake up and realize that they've gone too far.

Because you know if a lifelong Democrat/progressive like Michelle Obama doesn't like their rhetoric, there are going to be an awful lot of people not quite that far to the left who won't like it either.  It's really quite amazing.  For nearly two years, the Democrats have attacked Trump as rude, crass, and uncivil.  Many NT'ers did the same, and Trump's style certainly did turn off a lot of people.  But now, right before the election, Democrats appear bound and determined to supplant Trump by being even more rude, crass, and uncivil, and actually handing that issue right back to Republicans.  And Trump, cagey as he is, is dialing back his own rhetoric so that it is the Democrats who have become the party of incivility in the minds of many voters.

It's political jiu-jitsu by Trump, and the Democrats have fallen right into it.

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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2018, 01:51:28 pm »
While I agree she said the right things, perhaps we should take her new reasonable approach with the same skepticism with which we view Kanye West's new conservatism.

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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2018, 01:54:58 pm »
Interesting..... Maybe fauxcahontas is out and Mooch will be the new standard bearer over there in DNC land. (running in 2020?)

You can bet your sweet bippy that her motivation isn't merely wanting "peace" among the political activists.  I'm thinking that she is definitely considering a run for president now.  I wonder what changed her mind....?  Pressure from the left, no doubt.  Ongoing, endless, relentless pressure....

along with a mega dose of desperation.
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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2018, 02:01:11 pm »
You can bet your sweet bippy that her motivation isn't merely wanting "peace" among the political activists.  I'm thinking that she is definitely considering a run for president now.  I wonder what changed her mind....?  Pressure from the left, no doubt.  Ongoing, endless, relentless pressure....

along with a mega dose of desperation.

Of maybe it's not that she wants "peace" or wants to run for President, but rather that she believes these actions by Democrats will end up costing them votes.

It could really be as simple as that.  She's not urging Democrats to play nice just because she's nice, or because she's planning on running for office.  She's doing it because she realizes that's in the self-interest of progressives.
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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2018, 02:05:56 pm »
You can bet your sweet bippy that her motivation isn't merely wanting "peace" among the political activists.  I'm thinking that she is definitely considering a run for president now.  I wonder what changed her mind....?  Pressure from the left, no doubt.  Ongoing, endless, relentless pressure....

along with a mega dose of desperation.

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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2018, 02:07:52 pm »
Of maybe it's not that she wants "peace" or wants to run for President, but rather that she believes these actions by Democrats will end up costing them votes.

It could really be as simple as that.  She's not urging Democrats to play nice just because she's nice.  She'd doing it because she realizes that's in the self-interest of progressives.

That theory would rely on her being (or having become) self-aware.  Remember, this is the same person that publicly said "For the first time in my life I'm proud of my country."   I just don't think she's bright enough to have had that epiphany.
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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2018, 02:09:52 pm »
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Yeah but... is that a good thing... or a bad thing?  (I have to ask since I am thus far sans caffeine)
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Yeah but... is that a good thing... or a bad thing?  (I have to ask since I am thus far sans caffeine)

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« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2018, 02:26:43 pm »
That theory would rely on her being (or having become) self-aware.  Remember, this is the same person that publicly said "For the first time in my life I'm proud of my country."   I just don't think she's bright enough to have had that epiphany.

She has political aspirations IMO.

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« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2018, 03:04:19 pm »
You people who are falling for this nonsense and applauding her are idiots. Hell,calling you idiots is bragging on you because you just aren't that smart. I have no doubt some of you dingbats would even vote for her over Trump in 2020 if she gets the nomination,and if she does run,she WILL get the Dim nomination because she will unite the non-white voters and the kneejerk white guilt voters. Otherwise,most of those people are as likely to stay home as they are to go vote.

Obomber's handlers have been whispering into her ear about a plan they have developed to get her and Bathhouse Barry back into the off-white house,and there is no way she is going to pass on that opportunity.

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Re: Michelle Obama rebukes Holder, Clinton over calls for political warfare
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2018, 03:08:51 pm »
Interesting..... Maybe fauxcahontas is out and Mooch will be the new standard bearer over there in DNC land. (running in 2020?)

Sorry, but I don't trust Michelle Obama.  People don't change that much on a dime.

She has her own reasons for going against the party line and they are probably not as pretty as they seem at first glance.
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