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It was nice when we all came together and united behind Kav...I guess those days are gone.


It’s also nice to believe we have any great influence over his fate.  If that were the case, many battleground senatorial states would make the tally for him quite different.  The truth of the matter is – the representatives in DC still do what they want, regardless of what their constituents think.
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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It’s also nice to believe we have any great influence over his fate.  If that were the case, many battleground senatorial states would make the tally for him quite different.  The truth of the matter is – the representatives in DC still do what they want, regardless of what their constituents think.

Can't argue with that..
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Hey @txradioguy  I spent months, months defending that gal on this forum.  But one day I disagreed with her about something and all hell broke loose.  I still kinda admire how she clings to her Trump love despite all odds, but don't disagree with her. 

I assume you're referring to me @Emjay  --- although it could be one of several others.

But back to my point:  What the hell is *your* point in posting this?  Are you in such pathetic need of validation from total strangers? 

PLEASE in the name of God, STOP dragging crap from previous threads around with you and dumping it at will. I don't know how you're able to type with all the sh*t you carry.   Stop acting like a perennial victim and just maybe we won't have problems in the future.

The choice is yours.

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What a joke you are this afternoon, Major.

Imagine...if you will  (in my Rod Sterling voice) ....an NT Briefer...in the voting booth behind the curtain, not being able to pull the lever for Donald Trump today...because DCPatriot wouldn't stop ragging their asses. 

Welcome to the Twilight Zone.    :laugh:

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I assume you're referring to me @Emjay  --- although it could be one of several others.

But back to my point:  What the hell is *your* point in posting this?  Are you in such pathetic need of validation from total strangers? 

PLEASE in the name of God, STOP dragging crap from previous threads around with you and dumping it at will. I don't know how you're able to type with all the sh*t you carry.   Stop acting like a perennial victim and just maybe we won't have problems in the future.

The choice is yours.

Who 'else' could it be?   There is no other "gal" here that is totally devoted to Trump as you are.  Just sayin....

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And they wonder how it is possible that people refuse to 'jump on their train'.  They do a better job of running off supporters than Trump's thumbs do. 

Okay @INVAR I'll ask you:

Tell me what peace offering for defending Donald Trump, what mea culpa for winning the election, what act of self-flagellation for cheering the President's successes will satisfy you.


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Where should we meet?  I'll bring the ice!   :beer:


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It’s also nice to believe we have any great influence over his fate.  If that were the case, many battleground senatorial states would make the tally for him quite different.  The truth of the matter is – the representatives in DC still do what they want what K Street tells them to do, regardless of what their constituents think.

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Fixed it for you.
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The Major has made perfect, logical sense in this thread.  It's just a shame that some here can't comprehend that logic and that truth.

But that inability is merely a symptom and a by-product of the vitriol by those few here that still, to this day, are as hate-filled as they were the day (week) we migrated here from TOS.  Fact is... they don't 'want' to comprehend it because that would mean that they would be forced to acknowledge that they have done (and still are doing) something wrong re: their harsh rhetoric.... when that tactic never works to build bridges with opponents or possible future allies. 

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I believe you're knowingly playing games @Maj. Bill Martin    Prove me wrong and answer the question I asked.  I'll repeat it for you:  Tell me, @Maj. Bill Martin -- what peace offering for defending Donald Trump, what mea culpa for winning the election, what act of self-flagellation for cheering the President's successes will satisfy the NT?

Your question is fundamentally flawed, and I'll explain why in a bit.  But I'll answer it as best as I can anyway:

A:  Some of them will never be satisfied by anything.

The fundamental flaw in your question is that it puts everyone who doesn't/didn't support Trump into the same box.  It assumes that there is in fact a single answer to your question, when in fact the answer probably has nearly as many answers as there are people who have been labelled "NeverTrump".


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Your question is fundamentally flawed, and I'll explain why in a bit.  But I'll answer it as best as I can anyway:

A:  Some of them will never be satisfied by anything.

The fundamental flaw in your question is that it puts everyone who doesn't/didn't support Trump into the same box.  It assumes that there is in fact a single answer to your question, when in fact the answer probably has nearly as many answers as there are people who have been labelled "NeverTrump".

Bingo!!!
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@edpc

Fixed it for you.


Like Myst said....can’t argue with that.
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Your question is fundamentally flawed, and I'll explain why in a bit.  But I'll answer it as best as I can anyway:

A:  Some of them will never be satisfied by anything.

The fundamental flaw in your question is that it puts everyone who doesn't/didn't support Trump into the same box.  It assumes that there is in fact a single answer to your question, when in fact the answer probably has nearly as many answers as there are people who have been labelled "NeverTrump".

Come on, dude.

This is freaking 2018.  2016 election was TWO YEARS AGO.

Anybody who can't/won't appreciate the magnificent job being done by President Trump...in a GD conservative forum...can go straight to hell. 
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Come on, dude.

This is freaking 2018.  2016 election was TWO YEARS AGO.

Anybody who can't/won't appreciate the magnificent job being done by President Trump...in a GD conservative forum...can go straight to hell.

Interesting.   So anyone who can't appreciate another $2+ trillion added to our national debt can go straight to hell?  Yeah, right. 

Good grief, I am sick and tired of your all-or-nothing bullshit, DC.  I have heaped plenty of praise on President Trump and have loudly defended him against the lies of the left.  Yet that still isn't good enough for you.

Here is the primary difference between me and you.  I support Conservatism.  You support Trump.  I stand by the ideal.  You stand by the power.  You do EXACTLY what liberals do.  Just like the lie above.  Because in a [**] Conservative forum, I expect others to appreciate Conservatism.  But not you.  Oh no, not you.  You will champion the pinnacle of liberal ideology as long as Trump is the one doing it.

But thanks for the "go straight to hell" offer.  It has been a very long time since I trolled DU.  Yet you have now brought DU to us.
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Come on, dude.

This is freaking 2018.  2016 election was TWO YEARS AGO.

Anybody who can't/won't appreciate the magnificent job being done by President Trump...in a GD conservative forum...can go straight to hell.

DC and RIV, I wish everyone could get on board with the President...I think he has done and is doing great things for conservatism. But people have to come to that conclusion in their own time. Some of the people you're slamming here may yet come around, but that's less likely if they feel under constant attack. Some are beyond reason...INVAR for example has surrendered all reason and common sense in favor of claiming righteous narcissism as his raison d'etre...but others are still persuadable and rational.

Major Bill is speaking sense here...I think its in your interest to listen. Just my opinion, of course.

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Interesting.   So anyone who can't appreciate another $2+ trillion added to our national debt can go straight to hell?  Yeah, right. 

Good grief, I am sick and tired of your all-or-nothing bullshit, DC.  I have heaped plenty of praise on President Trump and have loudly defended him against the lies of the left.  Yet that still isn't good enough for you.

Here is the primary difference between me and you.  I support Conservatism.  You support Trump.  I stand by the ideal.  You stand by the power.  You do EXACTLY what liberals do.  Just like the lie above.  Because in a [**] Conservative forum, I expect others to appreciate Conservatism.  But not you.  Oh no, not you.  You will champion the pinnacle of liberal ideology as long as Trump is the one doing it.

But thanks for the "go straight to hell" offer.  It has been a very long time since I trolled DU.  Yet you have now brought DU to us.

Exactly, ditto and thanks!

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Interesting.   So anyone who can't appreciate another $2+ trillion added to our national debt can go straight to hell?  Yeah, right. 

Good grief, I am sick and tired of your all-or-nothing bullshit, DC.  I have heaped plenty of praise on President Trump and have loudly defended him against the lies of the left.  Yet that still isn't good enough for you.

Here is the primary difference between me and you. I support Conservatism.  You support Trump.  I stand by the ideal.  You stand by the power.  You do EXACTLY what liberals do.  Just like the lie above.  Because in a [**] Conservative forum, I expect others to appreciate Conservatism.  But not you.  Oh no, not you.  You will champion the pinnacle of liberal ideology as long as Trump is the one doing it.

But thanks for the "go straight to hell" offer.  It has been a very long time since I trolled DU.  Yet you have now brought DU to us.

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Damn. Just when I want to defend some who are not yet supporting the President...there you go again.

We are not supporting Trump vs Conservatism...we are supporting Trump because he is the most effective and ardent advocate FOR Conservatism. Yes, you have every right to criticize deficit spending...just as I could fairly criticize Reagan for the same...but you are wrong to pretend that Trump is not doing a whole catalog of other things that are powerfully ADVANCING the conservative cause.

So WE don't support Trump while YOU support Conservatism...we support Trump BECAUSE he advances Conservatism. Your expression to the contrary is disingenuous and counterproductive because you unfairly question the motives of those with whom you disagree.
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DC and RIV, I wish everyone could get on board with the President...I think he has done and is doing great things for conservatism. But people have to come to that conclusion in their own time. Some of the people you're slamming here may yet come around, but that's less likely if they feel under constant attack. Some are beyond reason...INVAR for example has surrendered all reason and common sense in favor of claiming righteous narcissism as his raison d'etre...but others are still persuadable and rational.

Major Bill is speaking sense here...I think its in your interest to listen. Just my opinion, of course.

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@Hoodat

Damn. Just when I want to defend some who are not yet supporting the President...there you go again.

We are not supporting Trump vs Conservatism...we are supporting Trump because he is the most effective and ardent advocate FOR Conservatism. Yes, you have every right to criticize deficit spending...just as I could fairly criticize Reagan for the same...but you are wrong to pretend that Trump is not doing a whole catalog of other things that are powerfully ADVANCING the conservative cause.

So WE don't support Trump while YOU support Conservatism...we support Trump BECAUSE he advances Conservatism. Your expression to the contrary is disingenuous and counterproductive because you unfairly question the motives of those with whom you disagree.

You seem to have skipped right over the fact that Hoodat responded with that after having effectively been told to go to Hell.  I thought he was very restrained in his response...lol.
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You seem to have skipped right over the fact that Hoodat responded with that after having effectively been told to go to Hell.  I thought he was very restrained in his response...lol.

I didn't skip it, I just thought it was obvious. The problem is that the response was as wrong as the provocation. A pox on both their houses.
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#1.  I am accomplishing nothing, because the brain inside their thick skulls is the size of a bleeping walnut.   And it rattles loudly.

#2.  Don't give a rat's ass how I'm perceived.   Been around 20 years between TOS and various forums together with the core members here. That's 2 decades for those in Rio Linda. 

Anyone here that can't get behind Donald Trump is a waste of oxygen.

In my mind it’s down to this: I’m working to defeat democrats on the Left and NeverTrumpers on the Right. Whatever the etiology, nevers give cover to the democrats, and that sucks.


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