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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2018, 08:52:25 pm »
When my income went from six figures to zero when oil dropped in price, well, it was mighty handy having all that food. Three years of buying milk, bread, butter, and eggs, a few treats, and the rest pretty much taken care of. Still not all the way through the pile. I have to get back to work and restock the larder, though.

(BTW, I'm not LDS, but it seemed like a good idea to have food)

Ain't no dang different than any other country boy on the planet... Save up for the rainy day.... and don't worry, the rain's a coming.

Broke my knee twice in a row... down for nearly two years, and for most of that, it was all I could do to hobble around the kitchen... It got inventive, there toward the end. but there's only so much you can do with beans and rice (or rice and beans)...

Ate my pile flat over that, but it got me through. Getting where it's back up to snuff now, all but the fish...

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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2018, 08:53:25 pm »
If you want to 'get back to work', now is a great time to do it.  Jobs are all over the place. I could get a great job tomorrow if I wanted to go back to work. But I've been retired now for a few years now. The idea of getting up in the morning, and the drive, and the politics of work, all that is just not for me now. I evolved beyond it.
Don't need to work anymore anyway.
Yep, just longer travel and reestablishing at a new place. Lower day rate. Makes it harder to get up the enthusiasm, but I need to do it now rather than later. Burned through more savings than I wanted to getting some family problems sorted out. No more 240 field day years, though, I'm done at 180.
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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2018, 08:53:53 pm »
Mormons should have at least 1 to 2 years of food on hand at all times.
Actually, it's not a bad idea. I couldn't do it myself though. Don't have the will power. If I had a year of food available, I would never go shopping. Until next year that is.

Most country folk have that as a matter of course. An absolute necessity of an idea.

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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2018, 08:57:18 pm »
What the heck? Sorry for that. I just got in a quarter beef - grass fed angus, and he's finger lickin good. I don't rightly know the cost, as we did our own slaughter, butcher, cut, and wrap... Way under 3 bucks though...

Have your butcher pick em next time.

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Then it's no cutting or prepping, just add ingredients and hot water... zoom!
Might be a pleasant intersection a bit cheaper tan your delivery thing.

Azure is the BOMB! I dunno about prepared meals or nothing, but I buy tons of bulk from them...

But beef? Local... stick to Angus, and let your butcher pick the cow.

Yeah, what the heck.  It was a small (half was 157 lbs) angus heifer owned and raised by the owner of the processing business.  Don't know how I could do better than that.  I started marinating the hell out of the meat and we could still taste how gamey it was.  The processors was clean as a whistle though, I was super impressed with how well they kept everything when I went to pick up.

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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2018, 08:58:11 pm »
I have one of those big can racks thrive has. I love it. Rotate stock as you put more in, see what you have at a glance, and nothing gets lost in the corners.

Yeah, I am fixin to go full bore... Would it help you out if we bought through y'all? I have another way in, but I don't mind giving you the hand...

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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2018, 08:59:46 pm »
Yeah, I am fixin to go full bore... Would it help you out if we bought through y'all? I have another way in, but I don't mind giving you the hand...
I'm just a customer, not a dealer. Thanks, for the thought.
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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2018, 09:00:29 pm »
Yeah, what the heck.  It was a small (half was 157 lbs) angus heifer owned and raised by the owner of the processing business.  Don't know how I could do better than that.  I started marinating the hell out of the meat and we could still taste how gamey it was.  The processors was clean as a whistle though, I was super impressed with how well they kept everything when I went to pick up.

Well, if it's one of his own, take it back and feed him a chunk... might be he'd turn it into jerky and jerky sticks for ya, and go after another... But however, you have to tell him his product sucks.

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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2018, 09:09:32 pm »
Well, if it's one of his own, take it back and feed him a chunk... might be he'd turn it into jerky and jerky sticks for ya, and go after another... But however, you have to tell him his product sucks.

I'm not usually shy about giving my opinion about that type of stuff.  We've gotten a 1/4 grass-fed before and the taste was nice, but was just a little tough.  I've gotten individual cuts of grass-fed before and it's been a little bit gamey.  When I have given my opinion on the grass-fed stuff the usual reply is "That's just how grass-fed beef is."  So I haven't said anything to them and was thinking of seeing if they had a 1/4 corn fed cow to give a try.  I'll tell you, we threw all the beef away cause I couldn't find anyone that wanted to pay me even $1.50/lb for it.

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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2018, 09:12:06 pm »
We’re in a Pittsburgh market with trailer trash/HUD taste. We get almost to all of our organic food at half price. Damn near everything freezes well. Everything else is out of the garden. The biggest money saver: We cook from scratch. My grocery bill for a family of five plus an English mastiff is  under $200/week, which includes dry goods and booze.
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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2018, 09:23:14 pm »
Have tried that but I'm not sure how that really helps with limited storage space?

Lets talk about that @mrclose ... What do you mean?

Apartment dweller, or small house? have you some property? Country, Suburban, City?

Storage is a thing. I only have 1100 ft2, and until I do my woodshed (there will be a root cellar under it), I am a might short on storage too.

But the bureau and the dresser in the spare bedroom are chocked full of goods... I got those long tupperware trays that slide under the bed... Full of canned goods (both beds). Got a free standing old closet... painted it up with a cool distressed look... It sits right in my living room and looks great... and it's stuffed completely full of food. Not to mention my rather small pantry and the kitchen itself.

I am saying.... there are ways and ways...


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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2018, 09:28:12 pm »
I'm not usually shy about giving my opinion about that type of stuff. 

REALLY? You are usually so shy and retiring...  :seeya: :rolling: :beer:

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We've gotten a 1/4 grass-fed before and the taste was nice, but was just a little tough.  I've gotten individual cuts of grass-fed before and it's been a little bit gamey.  When I have given my opinion on the grass-fed stuff the usual reply is "That's just how grass-fed beef is."  So I haven't said anything to them and was thinking of seeing if they had a 1/4 corn fed cow to give a try.  I'll tell you, we threw all the beef away cause I couldn't find anyone that wanted to pay me even $1.50/lb for it.

I dunno... Ida ground it all up into jerky sticks and jerky. It'd be plenty good that way...

But maybe it's the grass down there... something they eat that's awful to the taste... Try finishing them off on grain and keep em off the grass for a week or two...

We run em into a paddock and feed em alfalfa and grain for a while before slaughter too..

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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2018, 09:30:24 pm »
The biggest money saver: We cook from scratch.

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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2018, 09:47:03 pm »
Luckily I have a community HEB in our town.  I only shop good sales.  Sometimes pork loin is $1.00/lb I buy 3 or 4 and cut them into chops for the grill or oven.  1 pork loin makes 2 meals (for 4) in the freezer. I don't buy meat unless it is on sale!  I shop shelf specials.  Canned vegetables are marked way down in the early spring because the new crop will be out soon.  Buy a bunch.  Add dry beans to your list.  Make your own salad.  Buy the biggest bell peppers and use half.  Buy the 8 lb bag of chicken and freeze it in meal sizes.   Buy Rice in bulk .    I get roast for $2.47/lb, Ground Beef $2.77/lb, Chicken $0.57/lb, etc.  Just a few hints for you....

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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2018, 10:06:54 pm »
Buy the biggest bell peppers and use half.

That's another real good point - I buy bell peppers six to twelve at a time, on sale. then I take em home and clean them, dice em up and put em in a gallon zippy in the little freezer (in the fridge). I never use em but that I chop em anyway (or rarely), and they keep forever in the freezer that way.... I just reach in, grab a handful, and throw it in the pan as I need it.

Same with the big pack of red orange and yellow bells over at the Costco... process em right into the freezer that way. Same with Jalapenos. I never let onions go bad - if they are getting iffy, chopped and in a zippy in the freezer.

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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2018, 10:10:22 pm »
REALLY? You are usually so shy and retiring...  :seeya: :rolling: :beer:

I dunno... Ida ground it all up into jerky sticks and jerky. It'd be plenty good that way...

But maybe it's the grass down there... something they eat that's awful to the taste... Try finishing them off on grain and keep em off the grass for a week or two...

We run em into a paddock and feed em alfalfa and grain for a while before slaughter too..

Yep, if you lived close enough I'da given it to you, but it was just filling up our chest freezer and starting to take up too much valuable real estate, so we ditched it.  I hated doing that.

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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2018, 03:22:06 am »
One thing I haven't seen mentioned here is you probably want to know what stuff costs.  For example, around here sweet potatoes sell for $0.88/lb most of the year, with short periods of $0.58, $0.98, and $1.28.  Knowing this would allow me to recognize when they are cheap, and when to consider alternatives.  It would also help me from being fooled by "sales" which are simply just mark downs due to season market conditions.  [Note: "loss leader" sales can be a great way to save money on food, but a lot of sales are also scams -- you can tell the difference when you know what things normally sell for].

Another point.  I cook for my dogs.  I use the same basic ingredients, every week, bought by the pound.  Ignoring seasonal adjustments (see sweet potatoes above, God knows I'd never eat those things myself), the cost of a batch of their food has risen in the last ten years from about $20.00 to $20.14.  The chicken livers went up by $0.07/1.25#.  Any of the other ingredients cost exactly what they did ten years ago.  I don't understand people who say food prices are increasing, either they eat a lot of beef (which did like double several years ago), eat a lot of packaged food (might be going up, I don't know), or are just more concerned lately about the ability to afford things and since food is a regular/visible and relatively substantial expense they see not a rise in cost but a rise in their own personal concern over the cost.
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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2018, 09:25:18 am »
I just can't imagine what a family of 4 (or more) has to spend to eat well?

Over the top.  Especially combined with far too busy, eating on the run, way too much prepackaged junk.

We started raising cows, but the wife and girls won't eat pets they have named.
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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2018, 09:27:08 am »
Over the top.  Especially combined with far too busy, eating on the run, way too much prepackaged junk.

We started raising cows, but the wife and girls won't eat pets they have named.

Trade em off to a far neighbor and eat his cows. That worked for us for some years...  :shrug:

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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2018, 09:36:35 am »
Trade em off to a far neighbor and eat his cows. That worked for us for some years...  :shrug:

We have discussed that and will probably work something out.  They have no problem with eating animals; just not the ones we rub their heads and hand feed.  Me however, I could just go ahead and name them right from the beginning, "Ribeye", "Sirloin", etc...
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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #44 on: July 04, 2018, 09:43:32 am »
We have discussed that and will probably work something out.  They have no problem with eating animals; just not the ones we rub their heads and hand feed.  Me however, I could just go ahead and name them right from the beginning, "Ribeye", "Sirloin", etc...

Right... The ornery one around here is always named TBone... And is guaranteed to be the first one to get a free ride to freezertown. There ain't no mistaking my intention in that... But the nicer ones were always a harder sell.

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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #45 on: July 04, 2018, 12:11:17 pm »
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When I lived by myself, I ate fresh vegetables every day, either from Kroger or from my container growing veggie garden. I had over 100 containers growing food, growing from seeds started in my house under a grow lamp.  I had ten types of tomatoes growing the first time to determine which tomatoes grew best, then used that kind in later container gardens.  I have seeds set aside/stored so I can start seeds at any time.  Sometimes I would have frozen Chinese dinners that had chicken in them.  I didn't eat red meat simply because I didn't want to deal with it. 

You know I prepare - I can lock my front door, not leave, and live for years without needing the grocery store (yes, have coffee stored), electric company, the water company, the gas company.  I would have pure water forever, and power for years, have working TV, phone, radio, shortwave radio, be warm, be cool, have way to cook food forever (at beginning would have six to nine ways to cook), have 25 year food stored, have medical supplies along with my knowledge of medical situations (was an EMT).  Have ways to warn me if someone is close enough to set off one of numerous different kinds of alarms.  Have defensive weapons.

Living in a hurricane area for many years started my preparing - I knew I was going to be without power, so I fixed that problem.  I used these items every time a hurricane took out power.  As time went on, I found better ways to live well when power goes off, so I updated my methods. 

I also thought of my son.  He will have these items when I am gone.  Who knows what the world will be like as time goes on?  He will have the ability to live well if times get bad; maybe these items are worth more than the money put into them.  If you have no food, what is more important, a hundred dollar bill or a sandwich?  If you have no water, what is more important, a hundred dollar bill or a cup of water?
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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #46 on: July 04, 2018, 03:10:28 pm »
We have discussed that and will probably work something out.  They have no problem with eating animals; just not the ones we rub their heads and hand feed.  Me however, I could just go ahead and name them right from the beginning, "Ribeye", "Sirloin", etc...
My mom raised rabbits for my grandfather (low fat, grandad had to watch all that diet stuff and he could eat those, just not raise them where he lived in town). Only the breeders got names. The rest were collectively referred to as 'dumb bunnies', and were destined for the kitchen.
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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #47 on: July 04, 2018, 03:28:08 pm »
How i do it. Shop the perimeter, meats, fresh veg, wine.  I can keep it to $400/month for the two of us.

How my wife does it. Go for one thing, grab everything that looks interesting to her. Packs the car to overflow. Would spend $1200/month if she had total say.

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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #48 on: July 04, 2018, 03:49:16 pm »
If you have any outdoor space, even a balcony, you can grow your own food. Seeds are cheap and pots can be picked up second hand and will last seasons. Potting soil is pricy, but I’ve been composting in containers and it works really well. All winter I chop up scraps and then add them to existing soil in my containers (in the garage). When it’s broken down I add more. I only buy soil now if I get more containers during the growing season, which is rare. Grow the food that costs the most. For example, have a container or two of lettuce, a container of herbs, and one or two bush tomatoes. You can grow quite a bit in a small footprint.
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Re: How Do You Do It? (grocery shopping)
« Reply #49 on: July 04, 2018, 03:51:08 pm »
That's right.

Except bread. We eat much more when it’s homemade, so I only make it on special occasions  :laugh:
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