College official: Drop algebra requirement because minorities keep failing it

[rangerrebew]

 College official: Drop algebra requirement because minorities keep failing it
College Fix Staff •July 21, 2017


The chancellor of the California community college system has stated that institutions’ algebra requirements are “the biggest barrier” for “underemployed or unemployed Americans,” and as such is … a civil rights issue.

According to NPR, Chancellor Eloy Ortiz Oakley is “among a growing number of educators who view intermediate algebra as an obstacle to students obtaining their credentials — particularly in fields that require no higher level math skills.”

https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/34755/

[rangerrebew]

Why stop there?  Why not give blacks all As and a degree as long as they can get the government to cover their tuition?  They wouldn't even have to go to class.  That way we can have even dumber people in government, people voting, and in business which will speed up the destruction of America which is the goal of the left, after all.

[dfwgator]

 

[WingNot]

http://californiacommunitycolleges.cccco.edu/ChancellorsOffice/MeettheChancellor.aspx

It's only community college.  Why not?   

[andy58-in-nh]

Minorities? Really?

I'll bet it's not a problem for Asians.

[Elderberry]

What will be next on the chopping block?

Geometry?

Division and Multiplication?

Any math without the use of a calculator?

[jpsb]

What will be next on the chopping block?

Geometry?

Division and Multiplication?

Any math without the use of a calculator?

I'm pretty sure geometry is already gone. FYI, geometry is not trigonometry, close yes, but the
same subject? No.

[WingNot]

I'm pretty sure geometry is already gone. FYI, geometry is not trigonometry, close yes, but the
same subject? No.

All those metries are the same, Homie.

[Elderberry]

I'm pretty sure geometry is already gone. FYI, geometry is not trigonometry, close yes, but the
same subject? No.

I couldn't remember if Geometry came after Algebra1 in Jr. HS. It probably did. "FYI?" Surely you jest.

[Sanguine]

Algebra is a way of thinking.  People who hold degrees should be able to do it.

[Elderberry]

All those metries are the same, Homie.

Metries have changed a whole lot since I was in school

[thackney]

I'm pretty sure geometry is already gone. FYI, geometry is not trigonometry, close yes, but the
same subject? No.

Geometry is typically a High School Freshman or Sophomore level course.

[ABX]

Students will rise or fall to the expectations of their teacher/school system.

Our country is bombing in math and other STEM areas now compared to most industrialized nations and attitudes like this will make it worse.

We don't need to make it easier for minorities (talk about an insult). We need to raise the standards and tell them they can achieve more.

When I was in High School, Algebra 1 was a freshman class. I actually had it when I was in Jr. High having gone to a private school. I later transferred to a public school and had to jump into Pre-Cal my sophomore year (usually a Jr or Sr level class).

Now they want to remove even this basic requirement.

Idiocracy is coming to life in more ways than one.

[truth_seeker]

The overall criteria have been diluted, watered down o much that all demographics perform worse than before.

This system of testing incoming freshmen has been in place for over 50 years. Those that fail must take what was once called "bonehead math" and "bonehead English"


Basically it is a chance to show you are able to do college level work.

[WingNot]

Pretty soon some progressive will tout the benefit of doing away with the SAT/ACT tests.

[Elderberry]

Pretty soon some progressive will tout the benefit of doing away with the SAT/ACT tests.

Colleges Should Get Rid of the SAT and ACT and Abolish Preferences



Michele Hernandez is the president of Hernandez College Consulting and Application Boot Camp (TopTierAdmissions.com). She is the author of four books on college admissions based on her experience as an admissions officer at Dartmouth College.

Updated March 31, 2015, 6:46 AM

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/03/31/how-to-improve-the-college-admissions-process/colleges-should-get-rid-of-the-sat-and-act-and-abolish-preferences

[WingNot]

Colleges Should Get Rid of the SAT and ACT and Abolish Preferences



Michele Hernandez is the president of Hernandez College Consulting and Application Boot Camp (TopTierAdmissions.com). She is the author of four books on college admissions based on her experience as an admissions officer at Dartmouth College.

Updated March 31, 2015, 6:46 AM

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/03/31/how-to-improve-the-college-admissions-process/colleges-should-get-rid-of-the-sat-and-act-and-abolish-preferences

Dayum.  and I was being sarcastic!.

[Elderberry]

Dayum.  and I was being sarcastic!.

That goes without sayin'.

[WingNot]

That goes without sayin'.

The jig is up?   

[Smokin Joe]

What will be next on the chopping block?

Geometry?

Division and Multiplication?

Any math without the use of a calculator?

I recall a state legislature trying to round pi off to an even three a few years back....

[Taxcontrol]

Algebra is a way of thinking.  People who hold degrees should be able to do it.

Counter point - so is logic .....

[Smokin Joe]

Pretty soon some progressive will tout the benefit of doing away with the SAT/ACT tests.

I was going to try to replace my copy of my Geology GRE scores (1978) that were lost after the fire, and found out they don't even offer a Geology GRE any more.  (Go figure. I got a 720)

[Bigun]

Minorities? Really?

I'll bet it's not a problem for Asians.

I'll bet you are right.

[roamer_1]

Algebra is a way of thinking.  People who hold degrees should be able to do it.

I hated math classes because of the 'way of thinking'. I am very good with numbers, but I have never done it 'their way', and as a result I was penalized unfairly. I got the answers right, I just didn't use their methodology.

I grew to despise math because of it.

[andy58-in-nh]

The jig is up?   

...and gone!

[Bigun]

IIRC I took algebra in the 8th grade.  Got all the way to first year calculus before I got out of HS..

Dumbing the country down has been going on pretty much continuously since then.

[RoosGirl]

IIRC I took algebra in the 8th grade.  Got all the way to first year calculus before I got out of HS..

Dumbing the country down has been going on pretty much continuously since then.

Yep, I was just getting ready to say, might as well end school for them at 6th grade because Algebra used to be first offered in 7th.

[Smokin Joe]

IIRC I took algebra in the 8th grade.  Got all the way to first year calculus before I got out of HS..

Dumbing the country down has been going on pretty much continuously since then.

I also took Algebra in 8th grade. But 9th grade had a teacher who could not work the Algebra 2 problems himself. That hurt the lot of us. As there were race riots going on in the school, the teacher was not going to be dismissed, even for gross incompetence.

You really want a challenge, take some of the tests in the back of an early 1900s math book (eighth grade level).
It shows how far we have fallen.

[Bigun]

I also took Algebra in 8th grade. But 9th grade had a teacher who could not work the Algebra 2 problems himself. That hurt the lot of us. As there were race riots going on in the school, the teacher was not going to be dismissed, even for gross incompetence.

You really want a challenge, take some of the tests in the back of an early 1900s math book (eighth grade level).
It shows how far we have fallen.

Yeah!  I know.

BTW:  My algebra II teacher, a football coach, was continually running across the hall to have a competent teacher show him how to do the problems in the day's lesson.

[RoosGirl]

Yeah!  I know.

BTW:  My algebra II teacher, a football coach, was continually running across the hall to have a competent teacher show him how to do the problems in the day's lesson.

Mine was a community college physics "professor" who had notes that he used to write and complete problems on the board.  The notes were so old that he couldn't read them very well anymore so he'd get to a point in the problem and then say "Well, you guys get the idea.  You can finish it yourselves from here."

[Smokin Joe]

Mine was a community college physics "professor" who had notes that he used to write and complete problems on the board.  The notes were so old that he couldn't read them very well anymore so he'd get to a point in the problem and then say "Well, you guys get the idea.  You can finish it yourselves from here."

I always liked the part where he went off into the weeds and then said "...and skipping a few steps (looks at answer key) we get...." and wrote the answer on the board. Problem was, if you picked up from where he left off, you couldn't get there from here.

[Elderberry]

My Algebra 2 teacher loved math, but didn't care if you learned it from him. He would do equations on the chalk board so dang fast writing with his right hand while he was erasing with his left. Most of the kids in class passed via their homework, which the kid in front of you, or in back, or to your side, would grade and call out how many you missed.