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Child in Idaho Has Plague
« on: June 15, 2018, 07:47:18 am »

Child in Idaho Has Plague

June 14, 2018 -- A child in Idaho has been diagnosed with the plague and people need to be on alert for the potentially fatal disease, state health officials said Tuesday.

The child -- from Elmore County, located between Twin Falls and Boise -- is only the fifth person to be infected with the bacterial disease in Idaho since 1940, the Idaho State Journalreported.

https://www.webmd.com/children/news/20180614/child-in-idaho-has-plague
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Re: Child in Idaho Has Plague
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2018, 08:37:17 am »
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Child in Idaho Has Plague

June 14, 2018 -- A child in Idaho has been diagnosed with the plague and people need to be on alert for the potentially fatal disease, state health officials said Tuesday.

The child -- from Elmore County, located between Twin Falls and Boise -- is only the fifth person to be infected with the bacterial disease in Idaho since 1940, the Idaho State Journalreported.

https://www.webmd.com/children/news/20180614/child-in-idaho-has-plague

Which begs the question.... how did the child get the plague... and how many more have been exposed and/or infected?
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Re: Child in Idaho Has Plague
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2018, 09:00:42 am »
Probably got it from mouse or rat droppings they came into contact with.

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Re: Child in Idaho Has Plague
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2018, 09:35:10 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on June 15, 2018, 08:37:17 am
Which begs the question.... how did the child get the plague... and how many more have been exposed and/or infected?

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The last human case in the state was in 1992, but the disease has appeared in pets and wildlife in recent years in Idaho.

When we went through the Four Corners area, there were many signs telling you to not let your dogs out in the area because they can contract it. 
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Re: Child in Idaho Has Plague
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Re: Child in Idaho Has Plague
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2018, 10:10:18 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on June 15, 2018, 09:35:10 pm
When we went through the Four Corners area, there were many signs telling you to not let your dogs out in the area because they can contract it.

Really?   Great.   And again.... how did it get started in the US?   Is it a product of our wonderful illegal immigration (or refugee) system?  I remember too well the ebola scare a while back.
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2018, 10:48:14 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on June 15, 2018, 10:10:18 pm
Really?   Great.   And again.... how did it get started in the US?   Is it a product of our wonderful illegal immigration (or refugee) system?  I remember too well the ebola scare a while back.

It's been here forever.  Maybe came over with the Conquistadores?
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Re: Child in Idaho Has Plague
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2018, 11:26:56 pm »
Not a good sign!
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Re: Child in Idaho Has Plague
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2018, 04:52:05 am »
Quote from: XenaLee on June 15, 2018, 10:10:18 pm
Really?   Great.   And again.... how did it get started in the US?   Is it a product of our wonderful illegal immigration (or refugee) system?  I remember too well the ebola scare a while back.
Nah. It has been here, carried by the prairie dog populations and other rodents. Humans quit thinning out the prairie dogs and built out and now and then the two mix.

Ebola was an Obama Administration import, all the way.
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Re: Child in Idaho Has Plague
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2018, 01:55:55 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on June 15, 2018, 10:10:18 pm
Really?   Great.   And again.... how did it get started in the US?   Is it a product of our wonderful illegal immigration (or refugee) system?  I remember too well the ebola scare a while back.
We get reports of squirrels with plague every few years, in 2015 they were in Yosemite and Tahoe. Unless you believe the squirrels were illegal immigrants? :silly:
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2018, 02:06:29 pm »
A question for somebody more knowledgeable than me: Not to make light of this situation, but is the plague that big of a deal with modern medicine? We have meds to deal with the life threatening aspects of it  :shrug:
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2018, 02:19:41 pm »
From the Mayo Clinic site....

Medications

As soon as your doctor suspects that you have plague, you'll need to be admitted to a hospital. There, you'll receive powerful antibiotics, such as:

•Gentamicin
•Doxycycline (Vibramycin)
•Ciprofloxacin (Cipro)
•Levofloxacin (Levaquin)

Sounds like early, strong treatment takes care of it.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/plague/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20351297
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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2018, 02:36:01 pm »
That and fever reducers, IV fluids, and clean water and food. Again, I’m not trying to makes light of this. Prayers for the child.
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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2018, 02:39:22 pm »
Quote from: goodwithagun on June 16, 2018, 02:36:01 pm
That and fever reducers, IV fluids, and clean water and food. Again, I’m not trying to makes light of this. Prayers for the child.

Amen!

Squirrels with the plague are one thing........ a child is quite another.
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2018, 05:19:05 pm »

The plague is very treatable.  It aint like when we lived back in the days when it killed millions of people.

Quote from: musiclady on June 16, 2018, 02:19:41 pm
From the Mayo Clinic site....

Medications

As soon as your doctor suspects that you have plague, you'll need to be admitted to a hospital. There, you'll receive powerful antibiotics, such as:

•Gentamicin
•Doxycycline (Vibramycin)
•Ciprofloxacin (Cipro)
•Levofloxacin (Levaquin)

Sounds like early, strong treatment takes care of it.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/plague/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20351297


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Re: Child in Idaho Has Plague
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2018, 07:43:07 pm »
What worries me is the "flu like symptoms."   All these diseases  have "flu like symptoms"
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Re: Child in Idaho Has Plague
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2018, 08:22:59 pm »
Quote from: goodwithagun on June 16, 2018, 02:06:29 pm
A question for somebody more knowledgeable than me: Not to make light of this situation, but is the plague that big of a deal with modern medicine? We have meds to deal with the life threatening aspects of it  :shrug:
As with any infectious disease, as long as the number of infected people does not overwhelm the number of available appropriate hospital beds and the supply of drugs to combat it, all can be under control. But like someone spending just a little more than they are making, the situation can get out of hand if the number of cases exceed the available resources.

Anything contagious that can kill you is a bit of a 'big deal'--often manageable, but serious, and cause for concern, especially if the vector is not known. Location matters, too.  If this was in the rat population in NYC, for instance, rather than an isolated and fairly unique incident in a much more rural area, it would be serious indeed.
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« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2018, 08:25:52 pm »
Quote from: berdie on June 16, 2018, 07:43:07 pm
What worries me is the "flu like symptoms."   All these diseases  have "flu like symptoms"
Sure. That way when you get sent home and die, no one gets blamed.
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« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2018, 08:31:24 pm »
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Sure. That way when you get sent home and die, no one gets blamed.

We need tort reform
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« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2018, 08:52:13 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on June 16, 2018, 08:31:24 pm
We need tort reform
I agree, and not just in the medical area.
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« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2018, 08:55:06 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on June 16, 2018, 08:52:13 pm
I agree, and not just in the medical area.

Agreed.
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