Trump claims thousands had to be rescued after going 'out in their boats to watch' Hurricane Harvey

[RoosGirl]

Not new ... just don't spend much time here. Carry on, then. 

Also, your avatar picture is a little blurry. You may consider fixing that.  ^-^

[GrouchoTex]

Yeah, well you wouldn't have had to gone out and saved people if you didn't build a city in a swamp.

This part is true.

[Cyber Liberty]

Also, your avatar picture is a little blurry. You may consider fixing that.  ^-^

It's "Artsy."

[GrouchoTex]

I saw what I saw and I heard what I heard, and as a Houston area native, it rubbed me the wrong way.

Still, I know he says stuff that isn't all there, all the time, so I'll just repeat what I'd said earlier (with one additions):

Now, we all know Trump says things like this.

If he was talking about people in boats offshore, trying to ride it out, he would have a valid point. (exception being larger ships will ride out storms in open waters, rather than docked, as it can be safer and cause less damage).
I like that.

Of course, he doesn't make his statements clear enough.

If he was talking about the rescue efforts by the citizens, he's wrong.
I do not like that

[WingNot]

I prefer swimming. I'll even refrain from shaving my legs so I'm less aquadynamic. 

Disclamer.  This is not Roos.   Mearly an artistic representation of how shaving can make you "aero" and or Aqua ....
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[IsailedawayfromFR]

A lot of brouha about nothing.

Trump made a statement that said that some of those who got into harm's way were spectators.  No doubt about it.  It always happens, whether a traffic accident or some weather phenomena.

Was it prudent to say this?  No.  Was it a stretch to say 'thousands'?  Likely.

So somebody give the punch line here.

That Trump is a jerk? Maybe.

That people should not be stupid and place themselves in harm's way? Absolutely.

[RoosGirl]

Disclamer.  This is not Roos.   Mearly an artistic representation of how shaving can make you "aero" and or Aqua ....
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I was just hoping to gross you out enough that you wouldn't chase me.  I don't want a whippin.

[RoosGirl]

A lot of brouha about nothing.

Trump made a statement that said that some of those who got into harm's way were spectators.  No doubt about it.  It always happens, whether a traffic accident or some weather phenomena.

Was it prudent to say this?  No.  Was it a stretch to say 'thousands'?  Likely.

So somebody give the punch line here.

That Trump is a jerk? Maybe.

That people should not be stupid and place themselves in harm's way? Absolutely.

No, that is not what Trump said.

[WingNot]

I was just hoping to gross you out enough that you wouldn't chase me.  I don't want a whippin.

Whatever bloats your float!

[GrouchoTex]

Fine, so he says "the Coast Guard rescued 16,000 people, most from Texas, who for whatever reason, were in their bots watching the hurricane. It didn't work out so well."

And, everyone here says no big deal, right?
Just Trump being Trump, okay?

I say, the man who is always hollering "fake news" just engaged in it, with this statement.

But, hey, MAGA, SCOTUS, economy, etc.....

He wrong here, and I am calling him out.

I'm sure he'll fix it.

In the next 72 hours, after he talks to Senator Cruz and others, this story will change.
He'll come out and say he didn't mean the brave men and women,etc.....

SSDD.

It gets tiring.

[RoosGirl]

Whatever bloats your float!

Ugh, Gatorade does that to me.

[catfish1957]

"People went out in their boats to watch the hurricane. That didn't work out too well."

Uhhh.....

Not exactly.

In fact, not at all.
It didn't happen.

Boats in the flood water, going through neighborhoods, were there to pull people out.
Why?
The coast guard, or any other government entity, couldn't get enough people there to do it.
They didn't have the time or the resources.

If anybody can find me just one instance of someone out there in a boat, just "watching the hurricane", send it my way.

This has made a lot of noise here, and rightly so.
These are disparaging remarks, minimizing the role that 100's, perhaps 1000's, played in getting their fellow citizens, and in most cases, complete strangers, to safety.

Unless he's talking about some fool out in the Gulf on a boat trying to ride it out, I don't like this statement, not one bit.

As one who got to participate in  Harvey......    I sure wish this POTUS could go one week without saying something stupid.

Boats?????    Geeeeeez.......

[roamer_1]

The thing is, it wouldnt be an issue if he  were an honest person who took measure of his words and deeds.

Truth matters, character matters.

FACT.

[GrouchoTex]

As one who got to participate in  Harvey......    I sure wish this POTUS could go one week without saying something stupid.

Boats?????    Geeeeeez.......

I wished he'd have gone through the same week we all did.

[Restored]

I wish we could go a week without the media covering every single minute thing Trump says. Isn't there any real news out there?

[GrouchoTex]

I wish we could go a week without the media covering every single minute thing Trump says. Isn't there any real news out there?

Naw, he's okay with it.
He's been in a fishbowl most of his life.
He likes it.
He wants it.
He isn't naive enough to not know what he was getting into.
He just doesn't care.

[Sanguine]

I wish we could go a week without the media covering every single minute thing Trump says. Isn't there any real news out there?

There's a lot of Trump-free news posted here.  Thankfully.   ^-^

[roamer_1]

I wished he'd have gone through the same week we all did.

@GrouchoTex
Well, not to diminish what all y'all went through...
But to watch not only Texas, but the whole South and much of the Desert SW descend with every sort of duck boat and john boat, and air boat and, and, and... THAT friend, was a thing of beauty.

There's a vid out there somewhere of mile after mile of pickups with boat trailers riding in with the rain still coming down.

Chokes me up just thinking about that.

That's still the story as far as I am concerned.

[skeeter]

I wish we could go a week without the media covering every single minute thing Trump says. Isn't there any real news out there?

There is a market for it, unfortunately. As we can see.

[Sanguine]

@GrouchoTex
Well, not to diminish what all y'all went through...
But to watch not only Texas, but the whole South and much of the Desert SW descend with every sort of duck boat and john boat, and air boat and, and, and... THAT friend, was a thing of beauty.

There's a vid out there somewhere of mile after mile of pickups with boat trailers riding in with the rain still coming down.

Chokes me up just thinking about that.

That's still the story as far as I am concerned.

And, that's why this particular Trumpism really gets to us.

[GrouchoTex]

@GrouchoTex
Well, not to diminish what all y'all went through...
But to watch not only Texas, but the whole South and much of the Desert SW descend with every sort of duck boat and john boat, and air boat and, and, and... THAT friend, was a thing of beauty.

There's a vid out there somewhere of mile after mile of pickups with boat trailers riding in with the rain still coming down.

Chokes me up just thinking about that.

That's still the story as far as I am concerned.

Pretty amazing.
I heard this week that someone is putting out a book about it all soon, that has first hand accounts, etc.

[GrouchoTex]

And, that's why this particular Trumpism really gets to us.

Exactly.
This one hits a little close to home.

[roamer_1]

And, that's why this particular Trumpism really gets to us.

That's right.

[roamer_1]

Pretty amazing.
I heard this week that someone is putting out a book about it all soon, that has first hand accounts, etc.

My cuz couldn't go... but some of his friends did... all the way from Colorado, mind you...

[Elderberry]

Pretty amazing.
I heard this week that someone is putting out a book about it all soon, that has first hand accounts, etc.

There's the Houston Chronicle book

https://www.pediment.com/products/hurricane-harvey-by-the-houston-chronicle-hardcover-book

The Houston Chronicle is proud to present "Hurricane Harvey: by the staff of the Houston Chronicle," a hardcover book that captures Harvey's wide-reaching devastation and Houston's indomitable spirit.

This 200-page book will feature breathtaking photos and compelling stories from the award-winning staff of the Houston Chronicle. A portion of the proceeds from this book will go to help those impacted by the hurricane in Houston and across the Texas Gulf Coast, donating to the Greater Houston Community Foundation Hurricane Harvey Relief Fund and Rebuild Texas Fund.

[GrouchoTex]

There's the Houston Chronicle book

https://www.pediment.com/products/hurricane-harvey-by-the-houston-chronicle-hardcover-book

The Houston Chronicle is proud to present "Hurricane Harvey: by the staff of the Houston Chronicle," a hardcover book that captures Harvey's wide-reaching devastation and Houston's indomitable spirit.

This 200-page book will feature breathtaking photos and compelling stories from the award-winning staff of the Houston Chronicle. A portion of the proceeds from this book will go to help those impacted by the hurricane in Houston and across the Texas Gulf Coast, donating to the Greater Houston Community Foundation Hurricane Harvey Relief Fund and Rebuild Texas Fund.

Could be this.
I heard it on KTRH.

[thackney]

I wished he'd have gone through the same week we all did.

I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

[thackney]

My cuz couldn't go... but some of his friends did... all the way from Colorado, mind you...

 

[GrouchoTex]

I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Fair enough, you're right about that.
I'm just frustrated by it..

[IsailedawayfromFR]

No, that is not what Trump said.

So those going out to watch the hurricane were not spectators?

Then what were they?

[Elderberry]

So those going out to watch the hurricane were not spectators?

Then what were they?

Newscasters

[Sanguine]

So those going out to watch the hurricane were not spectators?

Then what were they?

Who are you talking about?

[al_c]

Also, your avatar picture is a little blurry. You may consider fixing that.  ^-^

Looks perfectly fine to me. Maybe you should cut back on the drinking. 

[al_c]

It's "Artsy."

It's artsy Legos.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Who are you talking about?

Was in answer to this comment

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,319255.msg1705312.html#msg1705312

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Newscasters

No one went out to watch the hurricane but newscasters?

That is a first for weather disasters.

[RoosGirl]

Was in answer to this comment

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,319255.msg1705312.html#msg1705312

"Saved 16,000 people, many of them in Texas, for whatever reason that is. People went out in their boats to watch the hurricane. That didn’t work out too well. That didn’t work out too well."

[IsailedawayfromFR]

"Saved 16,000 people, many of them in Texas, for whatever reason that is. People went out in their boats to watch the hurricane. That didn’t work out too well. That didn’t work out too well."

What exactly is your point?

I made mine in my post already, and all I got from you was something like "that is not what Trump said".

Point out what in my post that is erroneous.

Here it is again in its entirety.

A lot of brouha about nothing.

Trump made a statement that said that some of those who got into harm's way were spectators.  No doubt about it.  It always happens, whether a traffic accident or some weather phenomena.

Was it prudent to say this?  No.  Was it a stretch to say 'thousands'?  Likely.

So somebody give the punch line here.

That Trump is a jerk? Maybe.

That people should not be stupid and place themselves in harm's way? Absolutely.

[RoosGirl]

What exactly is your point?

I made mine in my post already, and all I got from you was something like "that is not what Trump said".

Point out what in my post that is erroneous.

Here it is again in its entirety.

I take issue with the "some".  That's not what he said.  It might have been what he meant, but I'm not going to try to guess what he meant, I'm going to go by what he actually said. 

"Saved 16,000 people, many of them in Texas, for whatever reason that is. People went out in their boats to watch the hurricane. That didn’t work out too well. That didn’t work out too well."

So let's break down what he said:
Saved 16,000 people last year, 

Many of them in Texas,       Agreed, looks like there were about 14,000 rescues just in Texas.

for whatever reason that is.   As though he doesn't understand why the bulk of rescues were in Texas.

People went out in their boats to watch the hurricane.  He didn't say "Some of those people", he said "People", just prior to indicating he didn't understand why there were 14,000 rescues in Texas.

That didn’t work out too well. That didn’t work out too well. 

If he didn't mean what he said he should think about what he's saying before he says it.

Someone suggested previously that the sentence structure was more like: Saved 16,000 people last year, many of them in Texas.  For whatever reason that is, people went out in their boats to watch the hurricane.  That didn't work out to well.

But that does not make sense.  Any one of us would say "For whatever reason, people went out in their boats to watch the hurricane."  They wouldn't add the "that is".

Put the whole statement together and I can understand why Texans would be annoyed with the way what Trump actually said comes across.  Add to that Coasties saying they have no data on people rescued from boats because they went out to watch the hurricane and this is just more dumb shit that Trump made up unnecessarily.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

I take issue with the "some".  That's not what he said.  It might have been what he meant, but I'm not going to try to guess what he meant, I'm going to go by what he actually said. 

"Saved 16,000 people, many of them in Texas, for whatever reason that is. People went out in their boats to watch the hurricane. That didn’t work out too well. That didn’t work out too well."

So let's break down what he said:
Saved 16,000 people last year, 

Many of them in Texas,       Agreed, looks like there were about 14,000 rescues just in Texas.

for whatever reason that is.   As though he doesn't understand why the bulk of rescues were in Texas.

People went out in their boats to watch the hurricane.  He didn't say "Some of those people", he said "People", just prior to indicating he didn't understand why there were 14,000 rescues in Texas.

That didn’t work out too well. That didn’t work out too well. 

If he didn't mean what he said he should think about what he's saying before he says it.

Someone suggested previously that the sentence structure was more like: Saved 16,000 people last year, many of them in Texas.  For whatever reason that is, people went out in their boats to watch the hurricane.  That didn't work out to well.

But that does not make sense.  Any one of us would say "For whatever reason, people went out in their boats to watch the hurricane."  They wouldn't add the "that is".

Put the whole statement together and I can understand why Texans would be annoyed with the way what Trump actually said comes across.  Add to that Coasties saying they have no data on people rescued from boats because they went out to watch the hurricane and this is just more dumb shit that Trump made up unnecessarily.

Lots of brouha about nothing.  I saw nothing in the comments which precipitate such a response.

Some people have agendas it appears.

[catfish1957]

Lots of brouha about nothing.  I saw nothing in the comments which precipitate such a response.

Some people have agendas it appears.

Going through natural disasters tends to make people more sensitive to callous remarks.   Trump should have kept is trap shut.

[RoosGirl]

Lots of brouha about nothing.  I saw nothing in the comments which precipitate such a response.

Some people have agendas it appears.

The "brouha" in part comes from people trying to say that Trump didn't say what he said.

[XenaLee]

It has already been well-established..... that Trump says (and tweets) stupid things.   His tendency to exaggerate and emit hyperbole on even minor issues is a given.  It has also been well-established....

that the leftist idiots and the never-Trumpers will point and laugh at ANYTHING Trump says or tweets... even while ignoring any good things he has accomplished for the nation.

Ho effing hum.

[catfish1957]

The "brouha" in part comes from people trying to say that Trump didn't say what he said.

I know several dozen families who lost their homes and all its contents to Harvey.  They became local refugees who had to find lodging with friends and families, and are still struggling to rebuild their lives.

Ironic thing, is this is Trump Country.  Saying dumb callous things sure isn't helping his base.

[Sanguine]

Lots of brouha about nothing.  I saw nothing in the comments which precipitate such a response.

Some people have agendas it appears.

Hurricane Harvey wasn't exactly nothing, and saying stupid and insulting things about the people who went through it isn't nothing.

And, newsflash: all people have agendas.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Hurricane Harvey wasn't exactly nothing, and saying stupid and insulting things about the people who went through it isn't nothing.

And, newsflash: all people have agendas.

I never said the hurricane was nothing.  Where did that come from?

And I already said he was out of line with the statement and may have proved him to be a jerk.  What more are you itching for?  Blasphemy?

Yes, those on NTS indeed have agendas.

[Sanguine]

I never said the hurricane was nothing.  Where did that come from?

And I already said he was out of line with the statement and may have proved him to be a jerk.  What more are you itching for?  Blasphemy?

Yes, those on NTS indeed have agendas.

NTS?

No, I said ALL people have agendas.  Pretending otherwise makes you seem disingenuous and clearly agenda-driven.

[Victoria33]

@RoosGirl

Conroe, TX.. Montgomery County, meets up with Harris County (Houston) county line going north up Hwy. 45.  Conroe was declared a disaster area - whole subdivisions covered in water.  I knew the townhouse I have there must have flooded.  I have a man who checks on my house and when he could get to Conroe, he called me and the townhouse did not flood.  It is in the one hundred yr. flood designation, but I bought flood insurance after this happened - that one hundred yr. flood designation is bound to change after this terrible flood.

I am apprehensive about this year's hurricane season and it has started.  The worst hurricane floods, in Texas, tend to happen in late August, Sept./Oct., after the gulf coast water is heated up by summer temps.

[RoosGirl]

@RoosGirl

Conroe, TX.. Montgomery County, meets up with Harris County (Houston) county line going north up Hwy. 45.  Conroe was declared a disaster area - whole subdivisions covered in water.  I knew the townhouse I have there must have flooded.  I have a man who checks on my house and when he could get to Conroe, he called me and the townhouse did not flood.  It is in the one hundred yr. flood designation, but I bought flood insurance after this happened - that one hundred yr. flood designation is bound to change after this terrible flood.

I am apprehensive about this year's hurricane season and it has started.  The worst hurricane floods, in Texas, tend to happen in late August, Sept./Oct., after the gulf coast water is heated up by summer temps.

I think by now most urban and suburban areas have been pretty well modeled to fairly accurately know what the 100 year flood elevation is.  Harvey was much more than a hundred year storm, if I had to guess probably a thousand year or more.  The chances of y'all be hit with another storm like that in even our great-grandchildrens' lifetime is extremely low. And if your place didn't flood in that storm then you should be pretty darn safe from it ever flooding.

[Cyber Liberty]

The "brouha" in part comes from people trying to say that Trump didn't say what he said.

Never try to parse the words of an inarticulate speaker.  One never gets anywhere, and it annoys the audience.