Professor shouts ‘f*** your life!’ at conservative student during class; college is investigating

[Free Vulcan]

A New Jersey college professor shouted “f*** your life!” at a politically conservative student during a class last week — an incident that was caught on cellphone video — and now Brookdale Community College in Lincroft is investigating, NJ.com reported.

Professor Howard Finkelstein got upset with his student, Christopher Lyle, during a sociology class discussion last Wednesday, shouted “f*** your life!” at Lyle and pounded his hand on a table, the outlet reported.

Lyle told NJ.com he had insisted in class that men and women can be victims of sexual harassment, and then Finkelstein’s outburst followed. Lyle — who identifies as conservative — added to the outlet that it was one of many times he and the professor disagreed this semester.

Read more at: https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/04/18/professor-shouts-f-your-life-at-conservative-student-during-class-college-is-investigating

[WingNot]

Little more info on Dear Professor.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/17/new-jersey-howard-finkelstein-black-student-n-word/

[INVAR]

But this is MORE important to the college:

Lyle reported Finkelstein’s alleged discrimination to college administrators — one of whom expressed concern Lyle was a gun-owner and wanted to know whether he needed a mental health evaluation.

Dare to complain, and suddenly you need a 'mental health evaluation'.

How positively SOVIET of them!

This is how millions ended up in Siberia or in mass graves. 

Nothing new under the sun for those who subscribe to that ideology.

[WingNot]

But this is MORE important to the college:

Dare to complain, and suddenly you need a 'mental health evaluation'.

How positively SOVIET of them!

This is how millions ended up in Siberia or in mass graves. 

Nothing new under the sun for those who subscribe to that ideology.

He will be removed from school I am sure. 

Brookdale student conduct and compliance manager Christopher Jeune allegedly told Lyle he “can’t sleep at night knowing own guns with this video circulating around the Internet,” the student said to TheDCNF.

“They are more concerned about my gun ownership that I obtained legally than this professor’s conduct,” Lyle said.

[INVAR]

He will be removed from school I am sure.

Oh I am certain too.

See, in this brave new world of our very near future, if you own a gun, smoke or are the wrong skin color - you don't get to go to school, have a bank account, get a loan, or make a living.

This is how you get a population of slaves beholden to the State.

And we are well on our way to that reality in our lifetimes if not sooner.

[Jazzhead]

Oh I am certain too.

See, in this brave new world of our very near future, if you own a gun, smoke or are the wrong skin color - you don't get to go to school, have a bank account, get a loan, or make a living.

This is how you get a population of slaves beholden to the State.

And we are well on our way to that reality in our lifetimes if not sooner.

Smoke? 

I think you've jumped the shark.

What I'd like to know is why any self-respecting conservative would be taking a sociology class.   

[andy58-in-nh]

Go easy on the poor guy: he's a "professor of sociology", which means that he barely has the life skills to feed himself and clean up after he goes to the potty. 

If it weren't for academia, he'd probably starve.

[Bigun]

Go easy on the poor guy: he's a "professor of sociology", which means that he barely has the life skills to feed himself and clean up after he goes to the potty. 

If it weren't for academia, he'd probably starve.

 

[WingNot]

Go easy on the poor guy: he's a "professor of sociology", which means that he barely has the life skills to feed himself and clean up after he goes to the potty. 

If it weren't for academia, he'd probably starve.

 

Can't argue with that!.  Nope... Not one bit.

[INVAR]

Smoke? 

I think you've jumped the shark.

You're too wrapped up in your Liberal cubicle to notice what goes on out in the real-world.

Have a nephew that lost his job because they found out he is a smoker.  They caught him in his car eating lunch and having a cigarette and was fired.  12 years at the company - gone.

Because the company adopted a zero-tolerance no smoking policy for their employees.

[Jazzhead]

Go easy on the poor guy: he's a "professor of sociology", which means that he barely has the life skills to feed himself and clean up after he goes to the potty. 

If it weren't for academia, he'd probably starve.

Yup.  There's nothing more worthless than a sociology degree.

[Jazzhead]

You're too wrapped up in your Liberal cubicle to notice what goes on out in the real-world.

Have a nephew that lost his job because they found out he is a smoker.  They caught him in his car eating lunch and having a cigarette and was fired.  12 years at the company - gone.

Because the company adopted a zero-tolerance no smoking policy for their employees.

And he was caught violating their policy (he likely represented to his employer that he was a non-smoker, who in turn represented that fact to its insurance company in order to obtain more favorable rates).  I have little sympathy.  A private employer can set the terms of employment, and can (or should be able to)  fire those who violate such terms.  I think it's a bit foolish for employers to refuse to hire smokers,  but liberty includes the right to make foolish decisions.   

By the way,  smokers should claim they're addicted and subject to a disability.  That way the government may protect them! 

[INVAR]

I have little sympathy. 

Tyrants never do.

[WingNot]

Yup.  There's nothing more worthless than a sociology degree.

All the profs looked the same.

[GrouchoTex]

My daughter had a sociology class at the community college level, before she transferred to the University.
Sometimes, it's the only "ology" left to take, at a small campus, that you can get the credits for, that will transfer over.
She had a similar type teacher.
This was 20 years ago, and her teacher blamed white people on everything.

[240B]

Yup.  There's nothing more worthless than a sociology degree.

Not for gubbermint work. A Sociology degree can make you an officer. Or a department head. Gubbermint is a whole different world from reality.

[Jazzhead]

Tyrants never do.

A private employer is a tyrant?  Does your nephew have a "right" to this employer's job and money?   He was hired in good faith and represented himself to be a non-smoker.  He lied, and his employer caught him, and so he was fired.

Where's the tyranny?   Why not stop making excuses for your nephew's cavalier attitude regarding his word and honor?   

[andy58-in-nh]

Yup.  There's nothing more worthless than a sociology degree.

Except for "Women's Studies".

[RoosGirl]

And he was caught violating their policy (he likely represented to his employer that he was a non-smoker, who in turn represented that fact to its insurance company in order to obtain more favorable rates).  I have little sympathy.  A private employer can set the terms of employment, and can (or should be able to)  fire those who violate such terms.  I think it's a bit foolish for employers to refuse to hire smokers,  but liberty includes the right to make foolish decisions.   

By the way,  smokers should claim they're addicted and subject to a disability.  That way the government may protect them!

You, of all people, are lecturing us about a private employer being able to set his own terms of business?

[INVAR]

Where's the tyranny?   Why not stop making excuses for your nephew's cavalier attitude regarding his word and honor?   

He was a Marine.  Worked there for a decade when smoking was no problem even in their break room. 

That he was on his own time, in his own property and was simply ratted on by another who saw him smoking is simply the evidence I presented to show your 'jump the shark' comment the ignorance that it is.

It is actually you that has no honor.

[INVAR]

You, of all people, are lecturing us about a private employer being able to set his own terms of business?

When it comes to pushing homosexuality - Jazzhead is all over having government tell a business how it must run.

Double Standards and hypocrisy is the hallmark of Liberals and Leftist tyrants like Jazzhead.

[RoosGirl]

When it comes to pushing homosexuality - Jazzhead is all over having government tell a business how it must run.

Double Standards and hypocrisy is the hallmark of Liberals and Leftist tyrants like Jazzhead.

The most fun part for me is that the irony will be lost on him.   

[WingNot]

Except for "Women's Studies".

Oh... you are way too hard on them. Look at what you could look forward to if you major in that fertile field.

Language warning. NSFW

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[RoosGirl]

Oh... you are way too hard on them. Look at what you could look forward to if you major in that fertile field.

Language warning. NSFW

! No longer available

I really hope she's a lesbian.

[Gefn]

Thanks for posting this. Everyone I know in real life is taking about it.

Ping

@Concerned
@Suppressed
@Hopalong Ginsberg
@To-Whose-Benefit?

[mountaineer]

Dare to complain, and suddenly you need a 'mental health evaluation'.

How positively SOVIET of them!

Exactly, and that's part of what's wrong with the "take guns from the mentally ill" argument: who the heck decides what mental illness is and who has it, and where can we find those definitions?
Does mental illness mean believing in a Supreme Deity, small government, individual property rights? 

[INVAR]

I really hope she's a lesbian.

What she needed was a father who would have rapped her lower jaw off her face with that filthy mouth.

Speaking of patriarchy.  My guess is she was raised by a mother a lot like herself sans a father in her house.

[INVAR]

Does mental illness mean believing in a Supreme Deity, small government, individual property rights?

According to the FBI 2009 Terror Assessment report - YES, yes it is.

[RoosGirl]

What she needed was a father who would have rapped her lower jaw off her face with that filthy mouth.

Speaking of patriarchy.  My guess is she was raised by a mother a lot like herself sans a father in her house.

Yeah, but it's too late for all that now.  The best we can hope for is that she won't make any little hers.

[WingNot]

Yeah, but it's too late for all that now.  The best we can hope for is that she won't make any little hers.

After a long period of observation and preparatory treatment, rendering feasible, under favorable circumstances, the exact diagnosis, which is indispensable to rational operative treatment, and then under going said treatment.... It will be found she is barren.  So she will adopt.

[Sanguine]

Oh my.  What a miserable, bitter, angry, mean, entitled ....um, person. 

[DCPatriot]

Oh I am certain too.

See, in this brave new world of our very near future, if you own a gun, smoke or are the wrong skin color - you don't get to go to school, have a bank account, get a loan, or make a living.

This is how you get a population of slaves beholden to the State.

And we are well on our way to that reality in our lifetimes if not sooner.

Remember the part about "no personal insults"?

[WingNot]

Oh my.  What a miserable, bitter, angry, mean, entitled ....um, person.

Her performance catapulted her (almost over night) to meme queen like status.  So she has that to fall back on....

[Jazzhead]

When it comes to pushing homosexuality - Jazzhead is all over having government tell a business how it must run.

Double Standards and hypocrisy is the hallmark of Liberals and Leftist tyrants like Jazzhead.

It's not me who's obsessed with homosexuals -it's "Christians" like you.   Are you comfortable in your own sexuality?   Then why not let others live their own lives?   

[andy58-in-nh]

Oh... you are way too hard on them. Look at what you could look forward to if you major in that fertile field.

There ain't nothing fertile about that, chief. She looks like she could work as a bouncer in a biker bar. She certainly has the language down pat.     

[Mod1]

It's not me who's obsessed with homosexuals -it's "Christians" like you.   Are you comfortable in your own sexuality?   Then why not let others live their own lives?

Don't even start with another discussion of homosexuality. Consider this a warning to all. Stay on topic.

[Jazzhead]

You, of all people, are lecturing us about a private employer being able to set his own terms of business?

No hypocrisy here.  Of course he can.  The cake store owner (I assume that's who you're referring to)  can freely decide whether or not to sell wedding cakes.  If he doesn't want to offer wedding cakes, that's no skin off of my nose.

INVAR's nephew's employer set certain rules for its employees.  It required its employees to represent they were non-smokers, most likely so it could obtain lower insurance rates.   INVAR's nephew apparently lied, and was fired for it - his employer likely didn't want to be exposed to a charge of insurance fraud. 

Now INVAR wants his nephew to be treated specially by his employer, and his lie excused.  Maybe he should - forgiveness is a virtue - but that's entirely the employer's call.   

By contrast, all the cake shop's customer wanted was to be treated the same as every other customer - to be sold the same wedding cake the shop owner FREELY CHOSE to advertise to provide to the general public.     

[Cyber Liberty]

I really hope she's a lesbian.

My head hurt after just a couple seconds of listening to that.

@Wingnut thanks for that.  I always wonder what "Triggered Meme girl" sounded like.

[WingNot]

My head hurt after just a couple seconds of listening to that.

@Wingnut thanks for that.  I always wonder what "Triggered Meme girl" sounded like.

It warms the cockles of my heart to be able to impart useless, but interesting tidbits of knowledge to my friends here at TBR town.  Peace out, Brother Cy

[RoosGirl]

No hypocrisy here.  Of course he can.  The cake store owner (I assume that's who you're referring to)  can freely decide whether or not to sell wedding cakes.  If he doesn't want to offer wedding cakes, that's no skin off of my nose.

INVAR's nephew's employer set certain rules for its employees.  It required its employees to represent they were non-smokers, most likely so it could obtain lower insurance rates.   INVAR's nephew apparently lied, and was fired for it - his employer likely didn't want to be exposed to a charge of insurance fraud. 

Now INVAR wants his nephew to be treated specially by his employer, and his lie excused.  May he should - but that's entirely the employer's call.   

All the cake shop's customer wanted was to be treated the same as every other customer - to be sold the same wedding cake the shop owner advertised to provide to the general public.     

In the interest of getting things back on topic "bleep your life!"

[txradioguy]

And he was caught violating their policy (he likely represented to his employer that he was a non-smoker, who in turn represented that fact to its insurance company in order to obtain more favorable rates).  I have little sympathy.  A private employer can set the terms of employment, and can (or should be able to)  fire those who violate such terms.  I think it's a bit foolish for employers to refuse to hire smokers,  but liberty includes the right to make foolish decisions.   

By the way,  smokers should claim they're addicted and subject to a disability.  That way the government may protect them!

So much hypocrisy packed into that little post.

[WingNot]

So much hypocrisy packed into that little post.

<Nope>

[INVAR]

INVAR's nephew apparently lied, and was fired for it - his employer likely didn't want to be exposed to a charge of insurance fraud.

I would pay top dollar to see you call my nephew a liar to his face.

I really would.

[txradioguy]

<Nope>

 

[Jazzhead]

I would pay top dollar to see you call my nephew a liar to his face.

I really would.

Did he represent to his employer that he was a non-smoker?   If so, how did not lie?   Did he claim he was a non-smoker in order to pay less for his insurance?   Then he lied in order to rip off his employer, did he not? 

Why should I have sympathy because his employer fired him?   

[Jazzhead]

So much hypocrisy packed into that little post.

Care to explain the hypocrisy?   Why shouldn't a private employer be able to fire an employee who misrepresented his status in a way that affects the employer's bottom line?   

[txradioguy]

Care to explain the hypocrisy?   Why cannot a private employer be able to fire an employee who misrepresented his status in a way that affects the employer's bottom line?

Sure right here.

A private employer can set the terms of employment, and can (or should be able to)  fire those who violate such terms.  I think it's a bit foolish for employers to refuse to hire smokers,  but liberty includes the right to make foolish decisions. 

If you can't figure out where your double standard is in those words juxtaposed against your stances on small business and individual liberties in the past and legal rulings that go against individual liberties and small business owners then I don't know what to say that will clear your obviously couldy vision on past statements you've made.

[WingNot]

Oh well The Mods can't delete the truth!. 

[RoosGirl]

Did he represent to his employer that he was a non-smoker?   If so, how did not lie?   Did he claim he was a non-smoker in order to pay less for his insurance?   Then he lied in order to rip off his employer, did he not? 

Why should I have sympathy because his employer fired him?   

If you bothered to freakin read you maybe could stop asking stupid questions.  Invar already explained that the employer changed the policy well into the nephew's employ.

[INVAR]

If you bothered to freakin read you maybe could stop asking stupid questions.  Invar already explained that the employer changed the policy well into the nephew's employ.

That is not important to Jazzy.

The only thing important too him is that anything normal people are opposed to can and should be forced upon someone by force of government or company policy.

If say, tomorrow a company's policy changes to declare that anyone who owns a gun is not allowed to work at the company - Jazzy would be all for that.

But if a company says they don't bake cakes for homosexual celebrations, Jazzy is all for the imposition of government policy by force.