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Should Trump calling Haiti and Somailia a $hithole be considered an offensive SLUR?

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It depends on what the definition of $hithole is.
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Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be considered offensive?
« on: January 11, 2018, 08:13:22 pm »
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be offensive? , Is that Offensive?
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2018, 08:17:55 pm »

I don't see the problem with it because it's true, especially Haiti.  I think we have a couple of States that are crapholes, too.  I'm sure somebody will come along and set me straight on that soon....
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be offensive? , Is that Offensive?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2018, 08:18:01 pm »
maybe a wrong choice of words, but what the hell.  At least he speaks his mind and doesn't try to be PC about everything.  I'll take brutal honesty any day as opposed to fakes like his predecessor.
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be offensive? , Is that Offensive?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2018, 08:19:45 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 11, 2018, 08:17:55 pm
I don't see the problem with it because it's true, especially Haiti.  I think we have a couple of States that are crapholes, too.  I'm sure somebody will come along and set me straight on that soon....
If you are brave enough to try, take a tour of many of the crime ridden inner cities (yeah those Democratic bastions of hope and change) and you'll see sh**holes.
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be offensive? , Is that Offensive?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2018, 08:20:39 pm »
Pray tell what should one properly call shitholes?
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be offensive? , Is that Offensive?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2018, 08:21:29 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on January 11, 2018, 08:20:39 pm
Pray tell what should one properly call shitholes?

I believe the PC term would be "Developing Countries".
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be offensive? , Is that Offensive?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2018, 08:22:41 pm »
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be offensive? , Is that Offensive?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2018, 08:23:30 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on January 11, 2018, 08:21:29 pm
I believe the PC term would be "UNDeveloped Countries".
There, fixed it.
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be offensive? , Is that Offensive?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2018, 08:24:10 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on January 11, 2018, 08:21:29 pm
I believe the PC term would be "Developing Countries".

How long should  it take for those shitholes to develop?
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be offensive? , Is that Offensive?
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2018, 08:27:13 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on January 11, 2018, 08:24:10 pm
How long should  it take for those shitholes to develop?
Those places like Hispanola have been around for a lot longer than this country and are still Sh**tholes.
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be offensive? , Is that Offensive?
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2018, 08:31:05 pm »
Nah. If I enter into a house full of cat crap & empty Lean Cuisine trays I'm not gonna pretend its the House of Windsor.
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be considered offensive?
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2018, 08:32:26 pm »
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be offensive? , Is that Offensive?
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2018, 08:33:07 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on January 11, 2018, 08:24:10 pm
How long should  it take for those shitholes to develop?

Those developing countries never reach fruition. The best they can achieve is France.
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be offensive? , Is that Offensive?
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2018, 08:40:51 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on January 11, 2018, 08:33:07 pm
Those developing countries never reach fruition. The best they can achieve is France.

Pre or post Nazi Germany occupation.  Or does it matter.
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be offensive? , Is that Offensive?
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2018, 08:44:34 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on January 11, 2018, 08:40:51 pm
Pre or post Nazi Germany occupation.  Or does it matter.

Doesn't matter.
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be offensive? , Is that Offensive?
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2018, 08:48:02 pm »
Quote from: RetBobbyMI on January 11, 2018, 08:27:13 pm
Those places like Hispanola have been around for a lot longer than this country and are still Sh**tholes.

IRRC the island of Hispanola has two countries on it.  One is developing, the other is Haiti.
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be offensive? , Is that Offensive?
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2018, 08:57:26 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on January 11, 2018, 08:31:05 pm
Nah. If I enter into a house full of cat crap & empty Lean Cuisine trays I'm not gonna pretend its the House of Windsor.

Sounds like you have knowledge of this situation.
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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2018, 08:58:24 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on January 11, 2018, 08:57:26 pm
Sounds like you have knowledge of this situation.

I did home appraisals for a spell.
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2018, 09:02:21 pm »
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I did home appraisals for a spell.

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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be offensive? , Is that Offensive?
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2018, 09:11:14 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on January 11, 2018, 08:24:10 pm
How long should  it take for those shitholes to develop?

It wouldn’t take that long if we removed their carbon emission limits and stopped sending them money.
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be considered offensive?
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2018, 09:15:58 pm »
I just thank the Good Lord that Trump didn’t way “wetbacks”!  Now that’s a bad, bad word worthy of the fainting couch.
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be considered offensive?
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2018, 09:22:18 pm »
Quote from: anubias on January 11, 2018, 09:15:58 pm
I just thank the Good Lord that Trump didn’t way “wetbacks”!  Now that’s a bad, bad word worthy of the fainting couch.

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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be considered offensive?
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2018, 09:31:41 pm »
Quote from: anubias on January 11, 2018, 09:15:58 pm
I just thank the Good Lord that Trump didn’t way “wetbacks”!  Now that’s a bad, bad word worthy of the fainting couch.
Vicente Fox hole would take honor in that!
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be considered offensive?
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2018, 09:37:37 pm »
Quote from: anubias on January 11, 2018, 09:15:58 pm
I just thank the Good Lord that Trump didn’t say “wetbacks”!  Now that’s a bad, bad word worthy of the fainting couch.

Oh Shit!  You did it now Darling! :beer:
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be considered offensive?
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2018, 09:46:35 pm »
Why did Vincente Fox assume Trump was referring to Mexico, even though he didn't explicitly mention Mexico, hmmmmmmmmm?
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« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2018, 09:49:42 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on January 11, 2018, 09:46:35 pm
Why did Vincente Fox assume Trump was referring to Mexico, even though he didn't explicitly mention Mexico, hmmmmmmmmm?


He didn't.
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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2018, 09:50:36 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on January 11, 2018, 09:46:35 pm
Why did Vincente Fox assume Trump was referring to Mexico, even though he didn't explicitly mention Mexico, hmmmmmmmmm?

I assume he knows Mexico is a shithole.   :silly:
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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2018, 09:52:37 pm »
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Oh Shit!  You did it now Darling! :beer:

  @Bigun @Wingnut :P

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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be considered offensive?
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2018, 10:02:07 pm »
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He didn't.

How do you know?  Special insight?  Are you friends? 
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be considered offensive?
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2018, 10:03:42 pm »
Quote from: anubias on January 11, 2018, 09:50:36 pm
I assume he knows Mexico is a shithole.   :silly:

If he doesn't then he'd be the last person on the world to find out.
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« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2018, 10:09:50 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 11, 2018, 10:03:42 pm
If he doesn't then he'd be the last person on the world to find out.

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« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2018, 10:10:41 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 11, 2018, 10:02:07 pm
How do you know?  Special insight?  Are you friends? 

By reading what he said.  You might try it sometime, instead of assuming he said what you want him to say.
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« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2018, 10:12:45 pm »
Quote from: Oceander on January 11, 2018, 10:10:41 pm
By reading what he said.  You might try it sometime, instead of assuming he said what you want him to say.

You might try reading more of what he says, instead of taking little snippets from news stories here and there.  You may have forgotten where I live. 
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« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2018, 04:38:00 pm »
Trump has denied using the word shithol* and there is now a member of the Senate stating that Trump didn't use those words...so I didn't vote.
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« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2018, 04:59:43 pm »
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Trump has denied using the word shithol* and there is now a member of the Senate stating that Trump didn't use those words...so I didn't vote.

Take the "Trump" part out of it.  Is "h*thole" offensive when used in reference to a turd world country?
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be considered offensive?
« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2018, 05:07:15 pm »
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He didn't.

I wonder what Vincente must think of Lindsey Graham....

“The people coming across the southern border live in hellholes. They don’t like that. They want to come here. Our problem is we can’t have everybody in the world who lives in a hellhole come to America,”
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« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2018, 05:17:13 pm »
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I wonder what Vincente must think of Lindsey Graham....

“The people coming across the southern border live in hellholes. They don’t like that. They want to come here. Our problem is we can’t have everybody in the world who lives in a hellhole come to America,”

Fox probably thinks Graham is a jolly good fellow.  Fox isn't pizzed at the lingo, but he's thrilled that Graham bends over like a Willow for Mexico, despite what he says.  Fox knows Graham doesn't mean a damned thing he says.
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« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2018, 08:01:28 pm »
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be considered offensive?
« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2018, 08:21:32 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 14, 2018, 04:59:43 pm
Take the "Trump" part out of it.  Is "h*thole" offensive when used in reference to a turd world country?

Absolutely not.  Some can be classified as shitholes and others are just plain hellholes. 
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Re: Should Trump calling certain Countrys a $hithole be considered offensive?
« Reply #41 on: January 14, 2018, 08:26:22 pm »
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Absolutely not.  Some can be classified as shitholes and others are just plain hellholes.

So who is going to take the job of ambassador to shithole x, y and z? And doesn't that make the job just a wee bit more difficult if not impossible?
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« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2018, 08:29:58 pm »
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So who is going to take the job of ambassador to shithole x, y and z? And doesn't that make the job just a wee bit more difficult if not impossible?


Yeah, because nothing bad ever happens to our embassies when a Rat is in charge.

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