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Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free speech in wake of publication of explosive new b
« on: January 06, 2018, 07:18:43 pm »
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President Donald Trump has hit out at "very weak" libel laws in the US as he branded an explosive new book detailing the inner workings White House as a piece of "fiction".

Suggesting that he would like to see tougher laws over free speech, Mr Trump said that if libel laws "were strong... you wouldn't have things like that happen where you can say whatever comes into your head" - referring to Michael Wolff's book Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-free-speech-libel-law-michael-wolff-fire-fury-mental-state-latest-a8145741.html


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Re: Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free speech in wake of publication of explosive n
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2018, 07:26:09 pm »
"His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald's being—you know, shot. I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous. What is this, right prior to his being shot, and nobody even brings it up. They don't even talk about that. That was reported, and nobody talks about it. I mean, what was he doing—what was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death, before the shooting?"
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Re: Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free speech in wake of publication of explosive n
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2018, 07:31:28 pm »
I am a bit confused though. If this book is fake and phony, why did he go after Bannon for the NDA?  After all, if all of this is fake, then Bannon didn't actually disclose anything, he was just trolling the reporter. If Bannon did violate the NDA, then something he said must be a true disclosure.
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Re: Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free speech in wake of publication of explosive n
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2018, 07:56:09 pm »
Why is Trump afraid of the book if it is fake?  A real bad idea and hopefully Congress doesn't pass this asinine idea.
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2018, 07:58:47 pm »
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Mr Trump said that if libel laws "were strong... you wouldn't have things like that happen where you can say whatever comes into your head"

So Trump would outlaw his use of twitter?
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2018, 08:00:20 pm »
One more thing: Trump is trying use this orchestrated outrage to tighten libel laws and he is hoping the Republicans in Congress will go along with it.
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Re: Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free speech in wake of publication of explosive n
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2018, 08:00:53 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on January 06, 2018, 07:58:47 pm
So Trump would outlaw his use of twitter?


Imagine if Obama had said this..
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Re: Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free speech in wake of publication of explosive n
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2018, 08:05:01 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis on January 06, 2018, 08:00:53 pm

Imagine if Obama had said this..

We tried using that example the last time Trump said something similar to this during the campaign and it didn't work.
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2018, 08:06:51 pm »
Oh, palease .... I just posted the full press conference.  Listen to what the President actually said --- in context.

 **nononono*
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2018, 08:07:42 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on January 06, 2018, 08:06:51 pm
Oh, palease .... I just posted the full press conference.  Listen to what the President actually said --- in context.

 **nononono*

I already listened to it.  I didn't change my mind.
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Re: Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free speech in wake of publication of explosive n
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2018, 08:07:48 pm »
Quote from: RoosGirl on January 06, 2018, 07:26:09 pm
"His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald's being—you know, shot. I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous. What is this, right prior to his being shot, and nobody even brings it up. They don't even talk about that. That was reported, and nobody talks about it. I mean, what was he doing—what was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death, before the shooting?"

@RoosGirl

Trump already incriminated himself under his proposed law when he went on Blitzer's show and said he never really believed Cruz was involved in the JFK assassination but he told the story anyway because he wanted to win.
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2018, 08:08:57 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on January 06, 2018, 08:07:48 pm
@RoosGirl

Trump already incriminated himself under his proposed law when he went on Blitzer's show and said he never really believed Cruz was involved in the JFK assassination but he told the story anyway because he wanted to win.

And this is part of the reason I didn't change my mind.

Goose, gander and all that.
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Re: Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free speech in wake of publication of explosive n
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2018, 08:09:34 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on January 06, 2018, 08:06:51 pm
Oh, palease .... I just posted the full press conference.  Listen to what the President actually said --- in context.

 **nononono*

And spoil their fun??

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Re: Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free speech in wake of publication of explosive n
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2018, 08:10:21 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on January 06, 2018, 08:07:48 pm
@RoosGirl

Trump already incriminated himself under his proposed law when he went on Blitzer's show and said he never really believed Cruz was involved in the JFK assassination but he told the story anyway because he wanted to win.

Source? 
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« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2018, 08:19:25 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on January 06, 2018, 08:10:21 pm
Source?

I asked for a source because the post sounded like a rambling remembrance of a talk show and nothing on record.

I cannot believe that Trump would say anything so self-incriminating.  I'd like to know what the actually words were in that press conference.

Believe me, I was watching Trump like a hawk back then because I so wanted Cruz to win.
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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2018, 09:26:33 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on January 06, 2018, 08:27:23 pm
He told Blitzer the same

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Yeah, that's as bad as I remembered it being.
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Re: Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free speech in wake of publication of explosive n
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2018, 12:30:01 am »
Quote from: Emjay on January 06, 2018, 08:19:25 pm
I asked for a source because the post sounded like a rambling remembrance of a talk show and nothing on record.

I cannot believe that Trump would say anything so self-incriminating.  I'd like to know what the actually words were in that press conference.

Believe me, I was watching Trump like a hawk back then because I so wanted Cruz to win.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-cruz-jfk-assassination-222817

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« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2018, 01:02:58 am »
Quote from: Emjay on January 06, 2018, 08:19:25 pm
I asked for a source because the post sounded like a rambling remembrance of a talk show and nothing on record.

I cannot believe that Trump would say anything so self-incriminating.  I'd like to know what the actually words were in that press conference.

Believe me, I was watching Trump like a hawk back then because I so wanted Cruz to win.

@Emjay
Here, let me help. You have to take your earplugs out and your blind-man glasses off when you listen to and read the news:)

It's a good link to share the next time someone asks to "show me one lie that Trump has ever told".
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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2018, 01:16:04 am »
Quote from: ConservativeGranny on January 07, 2018, 01:02:58 am
@Emjay
Here, let me help. You have to take your earplugs out and your blind-man glasses off when you listen to and read the news:)

It's a good link to share the next time someone asks to "show me one lie that Trump has ever told".

Apparently this lie doesn't count because it was on the campaign trail.  At least that is what was suggested earlier.  Of course, that was from the person who also said that character doesn't matter and to prove his point compared Trump to both Hillary and Stalin, so you can take that for what it's worth.
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« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2018, 01:21:38 am »
Actually, what he said was he would like to see stronger libel laws. Even if they existed, he would still need to prove it was libelous.
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Re: Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free speech in wake of publication of explosive n
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2018, 01:28:25 am »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on January 06, 2018, 07:58:47 pm
So Trump would outlaw his use of twitter?

I guess it was OK to make up stories about Cruz.
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