Leftover Discussion Thread: AL Special Election

[Free Vulcan]

Does this mean Al Franken does have to resign?

I wonder if he will now.

[txradioguy]

Does this mean Al Franken does have to resign?

IMHO he'd have stayed on if Moore had won.

Now he's gonna be pushed out and again...in IMO...be replaced by Keith X Ellison.

[mystery-ak]

Who cares? Then we get Pence. He may be the better President anyway. I have no fear of impeachment.

They won't stop with Trump...Pence would be vulnerable too

[kevindavis007]

The populist portion of the voter base will continue to nominate fringe candidates unable to win statewide election... but they won't blame themselves when Democrats take control again.

Remember this happening for Harry Reid?  He was extremely vulnerable but the voters put up Sharon Angle instead...

The good news is the Democrats are as dysfunctional as we are, but they can certainly unite in opposition to Trump.

Maybe Steve Bannon should just f**k off.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Now that the DEMS have won by way of sexual misconduct accusations they will continue to hound Trump and call for him to step down for sexual misconduct...the timing of the woman who has come forward (again) accusing Trump of groping is perfectly aligned with Jones' win.

Agree @libertybele   And Republicans/Conservatives will begin another endless debate on the validity of the charges further dividing and weakening the party.

Democrats know how to fight a war ... and they don't care that we know their strongest weapon is the media.  It still works for them.

[DiogenesLamp]

apparently people believed those accusations including Trump's daughter

Some portion of the population always believes bad things about someone they don't like anyway.  What would the New York Liberal Darling want with  a Bible Thumper like Moore anyways?   

[Variant]

I wonder if he will now.

Count on it.  The accusations are an albatross in a party where they hang their hats on finding albotrosses.  Plus, the Dems can replace him with a Dem and Minnesota probably will be reliably blue in a special election thanks to Congress' incompetence and Trump's inability to stop tweeting stupid stuff.

Franken is gone.

[mystery-ak]

Poll should be  Will Franken resign....I am saying no

[Hoodat]

Does this mean Al Franken does have to resign?

Now that the election is over, no.

[DiogenesLamp]

The voters of Alabama chose him, Moore in the primaries, the Wapo came in with their story. I'm not just going to saddle certain parties with blame, it looks like there is a lot to go around.

I only blame one group.  Those who accepted the unverified and contradictory claims at face value,  spread them around,  and as a result lent aid and comfort to the enemy.   

[240B]

They won't stop with Trump...Pence would be vulnerable too

Maybe. But it won't be so easy. Pence doesn't tease the lion like Trump is so fond of doing. He doesn't have the checkered past that Trump has. It will be much harder for them to pin him down, especially in the time remaining until the next election.

[Frank Cannon]

Well,  that 1% of the power of the Senate looks pretty powerful when the split between the two halves is ~ 50%

That 1% can sometimes control 100% of the result.   


Big forces wanted to make sure that 1% ended up under their control. 


I wanted to make that point to you before,  but I couldn't think of the proper way to phrase it to make the point clear.   
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Yeah and even if the GOP had 100% of the power they would do nothing, because they are all professional losers just like Jesus Freak and admitted child dater Roy Moore.

Wrap your head around the fact that a solid red state just voted for a Communist abortionist and everyone with an R after their named just sighed in relief to not be burdened with leadership anymore. I'll be Paul Ryan was so excited he ran to the gym to pump some irons with the other sweaty boys there.

[mystery-ak]

Moore ran for Gov twice and lost....per Fox

Moore's team not conceding yet

[Mom MD]

Poll should be  Will Franken resign....I am saying no

It depends   If the dems think they have a chance of gaining traction with sexual misconduct claims on Trump they would push out their own grandmother.  If it looks like the smear on trump is going nowhere Franken will stay and loudly proclaim if Trump doesn’t have to resign neither will he....

[DiogenesLamp]

So, Fox didn't get their polling perfect but I guess, better than those who said Moore was going to win. I also heard earlier, the turnout was 25% of eligible voters. I'd blame the voters as much as anyone if this is so and the Dems were more energized.

The accusations made a lot of people sit out the election.    They couldn't vote for Jones,  and they decided they wouldn't vote for Moore.   

[RoosGirl]

But what would they get Pence for?  Certainly not any sexual impropriety.

He was built in Taiwan, so not an NBC.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Poll should be  Will Franken resign....I am saying no

He's got to so they can now focus on the President. 

[Cyber Liberty]

Agree @libertybele   And Republicans/Conservatives will begin another endless debate on the validity of the charges further dividing and weakening the party.

Sure.  And I'll bet we know which Briefers would lead the way....

[mystery-ak]

But what would they get Pence for?  Certainly not any sexual impropriety.

We're talking about the Dems...they would invent something...

[DiogenesLamp]

If I were in Alabama I would have stayed home.  You can only hold your nose so long.  The dems win twice here.  They get the seat and they get to paint conservative Christians as sanctimonious nut jobs

Because we'll get another chance to stop baby murder in about 40 more years or so.   

[Variant]

Maybe. But it won't be so easy. Pence doesn't tease the lion like Trump is so fond of doing. He doesn't have the checkered past that Trump has. It will be much harder for them to pin him down, especially in the time remaining until the next election.

Pence would appear to be squeaky clean, but honestly, I assume every politician is sleazy.  I think you almost need to be to succeed at most any level of politics, much less the national level and if we limit ourselves to the pure, we won't have anyone to vote for.

[RetBobbyMI]

Mitch screwed up another solid victory, but solidified his majority of losers with his bud Chuckie. Now he gets to live with his decisions. I feel sorry for the country and Alabama, but not for the GOPe. They got what they wanted. I don’t want to hear a sorry assed peep from them about not able to get a majority to vote for anything. F#$@& off the whole lot of them.

[roamer_1]

But what would they get Pence for?  Certainly not any sexual impropriety.

The very same could have been said about Moore not 60 days ago.

[dfwgator]

Mitch screwed up another solid victory, but solidified his majority of losers with his bud Chuckie. Now he gets to live with his decisions. I feel sorry for the country and Alabama, but not for the GOPe. They got what they wanted. I don’t want to hear a sorry assed peep from them about not able to get a majority to vote for anything. F#$@& off the whole lot of them.

Oh, Mitch is a very happy man tonight.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Moore ran for Gov twice and lost....per Fox 

Whatever made Bannon think Moore could win a Senate seat??