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Re: New Study Shows Gay Men Have Variation Of DNA Over Straight men
« Reply #50 on: December 07, 2017, 08:23:25 pm »
Ima lesbian trapped in a man's body.

I think epigenetics plays a big part in this controversy.

Are animals homosexual?

We rescued our English mastiff who was intact at the time and our vet recommended against neutering. A new study indicates that specific prolific cancers, severe allergies, and hip displasia are more likely the result of neuter and spay, not poor breeding policies.

Any hoo, we let him run around the dog park behind my in-laws' place when we visit but the rules state that the dog must be neutered. It's not a law mind you, but merely a rule enforced by people taking pictures of your dog and posting on facebook that an intact dog was at the park. You know, millennial public shaming. I took to facebook and defended Goliath's honor stating that he identifies as a spayed female and all the haters needed to stop. Well, they didn't know what to do! If they called bullshit then they would be in a precarious situation with the human version of perversion.
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« Reply #51 on: December 07, 2017, 08:53:12 pm »
Why would a man, who as several of you point out have high sex drives and are generally very attracted to women, make a choice to somehow overcome their drives and attractions and instead chose to be attracted to another man?  Just doesn't make any sense.  None.

Abuse.  Neglect.  Abandonment.  Rape by a man.  Any number of issues might cause the removal of what is natural.
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« Reply #52 on: December 07, 2017, 09:16:58 pm »
Abuse.  Neglect.  Abandonment.  Rape by a man.  Any number of issues might cause the removal of what is natural.

That might be true for some, but many have no history of abuse.

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« Reply #53 on: December 07, 2017, 09:26:35 pm »
They found two regions with multiple genetic variants most strongly associated with sexuality.


Translation: more gay men had  a certain genetic variation than straight men, and the variance was not likely random.  It means that some bit of homosexuality can be explained by genetics, but not all.  Based on what is now known, homosexuality is thought to be around 20 percent genetic, 80 percent learned predisposition.  As time goes on, the 20 percent keeps going up, and the 80 percent keeps going down.  I seriously doubt science will ever declare gayness to be 100 percent genetic, although it likely is in some people.  For most, homosexuality is "learned."  It comes about as a result of cultural and subcultural influences, group dynamics, personality, motivation, attitudes and a whole host of other things that influence all of our behaviors.

Most things like homosexuality start out as a fixation.  The fixation becomes a compulsion, and then the compulsion becomes an addiction.  Alcoholism, drug addiction, gambling addiction, and shopping addictions all come from this pattern.  So does transgenderism, which is undoubtedly a learned predisposition.  Homosexuality is a bit more of a grey area, although I would compare it to alcoholism in the sense that the combination of learning and genetics can increase someone's likelihood of taking up either behavior.

Fixations can come from any number of sources, including mass media.  The more mass media glorifies a particular thing (transgeenders and gays, for example) the more people will become fixated with that thing, and the rest is a numbers game; as we have seen in recent years.

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Re: New Study Shows Gay Men Have Variation Of DNA Over Straight men
« Reply #54 on: December 07, 2017, 09:39:31 pm »
That might be true for some, but many have no history of abuse.

That we know of.

And what about abandonment or neglect?  Absent fathers?  Parents who think that little boys who like pink are gay so steer them that way?   Something is wrong.  It is not the way they are born.
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« Reply #55 on: December 07, 2017, 09:42:20 pm »
That we know of.

And what about abandonment or neglect?  Absent fathers?  Parents who think that little boys who like pink are gay so steer them that way?   Something is wrong.  It is not the way they are born.

Why would you not consider that it may be partially genetic?

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« Reply #56 on: December 07, 2017, 10:21:18 pm »
Sanguine observes:
"Why would a man, who as several of you point out have high sex drives and are generally very attracted to women, make a choice to somehow overcome their drives and attractions and instead chose to be attracted to another man?  Just doesn't make any sense.  None."

My thoughts on the subject, posted here (if you don't mind dirtying your hands by going there):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2846164/posts?page=67#67

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« Reply #57 on: December 07, 2017, 10:22:19 pm »
Why would a man, who as several of you point out have high sex drives and are generally very attracted to women, make a choice to somehow overcome their drives and attractions and instead chose to be attracted to another man?  Just doesn't make any sense.  None.

And yet we have history of many that will switch back and forth.  If it doesn't make any senses at all, is that a sign of a disorder?
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« Reply #58 on: December 07, 2017, 10:39:36 pm »
And yet we have history of many that will switch back and forth.  If it doesn't make any senses at all, is that a sign of a disorder?

And, even more who don't.  I don't know the answer.  I'm just saying it's a bit more complex that some might make it out to be.

And, for the record, I accept that God says don't do it.
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« Reply #59 on: December 07, 2017, 11:11:04 pm »
Do we have anybody with degrees in Biology?

Do we have anybody that has studied DNA, genetics, from any standpoint?

--genealogy
--medical research and treatments
--paternity
--national/regional origins
--criminology
--other

Anybody know what Haplogroups and Haplotypes are? SNPs?
Y-DNA and mt-DNA and autosomal DNA. Epigenetics?
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« Reply #60 on: December 07, 2017, 11:23:28 pm »
Well, in a couple of generations we'll have proof one way or the other.  Since taking a wife as cover is no longer needed, homosexuality have been normalized throughout the Western world, if it's genetic, with homosexuals no longer pushed into mating with women, the incidence rate should decline.  If it's a choice, having been normalized and "celebrated" by the left, the incidence rate should increase.

Of course, I've never found the "born that way" argument very interesting.  I suspect there are genetic markers that correspond to having an inborn besetting temptation to every sin in the catalogue of sins.  Psychopathy seems to be inborn, and no one argues that the means the behavior of psychopaths is not morally objectionable, or that laws against fraud, murder, lying under oath, and all manner of other things psychopaths are prone to should be abolished because the condition has a genetic basis.
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« Reply #61 on: December 07, 2017, 11:31:10 pm »
Well, in a couple of generations we'll have proof one way or the other. 

We don't have that long. Historically, acceptance of homosexuality (and other deviant behavior like-in-kind) is the death rattle of a society.

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« Reply #62 on: December 07, 2017, 11:32:12 pm »
We don't have that long. Historically, acceptance of homosexuality (and other deviant behavior like-in-kind) is the death rattle of a society.

I don't know about that. The French have been around for centuries.

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« Reply #63 on: December 07, 2017, 11:34:20 pm »
I don't know about that. The French have been around for centuries.

And they are even now, talking about splitting their country to avoid war with Islam.
You're making my point.

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« Reply #64 on: December 08, 2017, 12:02:34 am »
And, even more who don't.  I don't know the answer.  I'm just saying it's a bit more complex that some might make it out to be.
Hence the term of choice 'queer'.

Even the ravings of Islam recognize that.
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« Reply #65 on: December 08, 2017, 12:06:36 am »
And they are even now, talking about splitting their country to avoid war with Islam.
You're making my point.

Not really. Now you are arguing that unrestrained immigration destroys a country, not faggotry. Now maybe you can argue that faggotry encourages the want for unrestrained immigration, which in turn destroys a country.

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« Reply #66 on: December 08, 2017, 12:06:37 am »
Abuse.  Neglect.  Abandonment.  Rape by a man.  Any number of issues might cause the removal of what is natural.

But for most, they're born that way.  And just as capable of finding love and happiness with a partner. 
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« Reply #67 on: December 08, 2017, 12:07:52 am »
But for most, they're born that way.  And just as capable as you and I]of finding love and happiness with a partner.

You sound like you have first hand knowledge.

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« Reply #68 on: December 08, 2017, 12:11:52 am »
You sound like you have first hand knowledge.

I do.  Several close family members.  So sod off with your hate.   
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« Reply #69 on: December 08, 2017, 12:15:03 am »
I do.  Several close family members.  So sod off with your hate.

Several in the family are gay yet they make up about 1% of the population. Guess you live in the Castro district.

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« Reply #70 on: December 08, 2017, 05:17:32 am »

Repressive societies (radical Islam) kill members discovered to be homosexual. Homosexuality in these traditions can be a death sentence.

Yet some folks here insist homosexuality is learned behavior? In a repressed society where homosexuality is not only not accepted nor celebrated but rather is sought to be violently extinguished. And yet homosexuality still exists in Islam.

I’m still not buying that it’s an individual choice, when that choice could result in execution by being thrown off rooftops. One must be genetically predisposed to risk engagement in that behavior.


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« Reply #71 on: December 08, 2017, 08:02:45 am »
Repressive societies (radical Islam) kill members discovered to be homosexual. Homosexuality in these traditions can be a death sentence.


And historically it hasn't been much easier in so-called enlightened societies.  Many Christians condemn homosexuals - even those who live monogamously with a partner - as perverts and abominations.   Up until recently,  homosexual behavior was an accepted excuse for discrimination, in housing, in employment, in legal rights of all kinds. 

Of course it isn't a choice.   For most, it's no more a choice than race or gender.   Gay folks have exactly the same choices as straight folks  - whether to live a moral and responsible life,  of monogamy and faithful behavior, or of promiscuity and dissipation.   
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« Reply #72 on: December 08, 2017, 08:15:40 am »
Who would purposely choose to be homosexual? I don’t buy that.

Genes determine so much of our physical and mental traits that it’s hard to dismiss evidence suggesting a DNA link to homosexuality.

Depends on the perks and how willing someone is to do what it takes to get them. When my niece was attending Western Michigan University she told me about the LUGs (Lesbian until graduation). Western and many other schools have official policies giving special treatment to oppressed groups.

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« Reply #73 on: December 08, 2017, 08:31:59 am »
Repressive societies (radical Islam) kill members discovered to be homosexual. Homosexuality in these traditions can be a death sentence.

Yet some folks here insist homosexuality is learned behavior? In a repressed society where homosexuality is not only not accepted nor celebrated but rather is sought to be violently extinguished. And yet homosexuality still exists in Islam.

I’m still not buying that it’s an individual choice, when that choice could result in execution by being thrown off rooftops. One must be genetically predisposed to risk engagement in that behavior.

@aligncare

A misnomer for sure.  In those cultures its only homosexual to receive and not be the guy on top.  Their history of using small boys as sex slaves is well known and very common among the radicals.   Not to mention people like ISIS were using rape as a recruiting method.  They'd video tape themselves raping young men and then use the video as blackmail to get them to join.   if it were as clear cut as you say neither of this would exist.

History and a thinking mind shows its about 98% choice aka a chosen behavior.  There are a few who are born with a serious issue but that is the exception.  If a genetic cause did exist it certainly would have been found and the homosexual community wouldn't be relying on junk science like this particular study.
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« Reply #74 on: December 08, 2017, 08:41:32 am »
I’m still not buying that it’s an individual choice, when that choice could result in execution by being thrown off rooftops. One must be genetically predisposed to risk engagement in that behavior.

Because no individual ever choose to participate in destructive behavior?
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« Reply #75 on: December 08, 2017, 08:44:39 am »
And historically it hasn't been much easier in so-called enlightened societies.  Many Christians condemn homosexuals - even those who live monogamously with a partner - as perverts and abominations.   Up until recently,  homosexual behavior was an accepted excuse for discrimination, in housing, in employment, in legal rights of all kinds. 

Of course it isn't a choice.   For most, it's no more a choice than race or gender.   Gay folks have exactly the same choices as straight folks  - whether to live a moral and responsible life,  of monogamy and faithful behavior, or of promiscuity and dissipation.

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Wow you hit every talking point there, gold star & a smiley face
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« Reply #76 on: December 08, 2017, 08:51:01 am »
Because no individual ever choose to participate in destructive behavior?

Only the mentally ill get some slack on that.

My favorite co-worker is a recovering heroin/meth addict. She doesn't blame anyone else for her multiple stints in jail or the general disaster her life is.

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« Reply #77 on: December 08, 2017, 08:57:51 am »
@Jazzhead
Wow you hit every talking point there, gold star & a smiley face

Got something against monogamy and faithful behavior?   

All I'm trying to say is that everyone deserves to be praised or condemned in accordance with their actions as individuals.   What frosts me about the attitudes of (some) Christians is that good folks get labeled "abominations" just because of an aspect of their being they cannot control.   One doesn't choose whether to be gay or straight - that's up to God.  What's up to us is what we choose to make of ourselves, and whether we choose to live by moral precepts.       
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« Reply #78 on: December 08, 2017, 09:00:21 am »
There is no worse thing possible for LGBT* than a test that can prove they are gay. That opens them to the possibility of gay men failing the test thereby proving it is a chosen behavior.
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« Reply #79 on: December 08, 2017, 09:02:03 am »
  What frosts me about the attitudes of (some) Christians is that good folks get labeled "abominations" just because of an aspect of their being they cannot control.   

None of the things listed in the Bible as "abomination" are things you cannot control. They are all chosen actions.
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« Reply #80 on: December 08, 2017, 09:05:38 am »
None of the things listed in the Bible as "abomination" are things you cannot control. They are all chosen actions.

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« Reply #81 on: December 08, 2017, 09:07:04 am »
Got something against monogamy and faithful behavior?   

All I'm trying to say is that everyone deserves to be praised or condemned in accordance with their actions as individuals.   What frosts me about the attitudes of (some) Christians is that good folks get labeled "abominations" just because of an aspect of their being they cannot control.   One doesn't choose whether to be gay or straight - that's up to God.  What's up to us is what we choose to make of ourselves, and whether we choose to live by moral precepts.     

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Exactly, we are all judged based on our actions aka behaviors.  Every single person makes mistakes but there is a difference between making a mistake and making an effort to not repeat, and choosing to live in that mistake and glorify it. 

God doesn't make people gay, thats a ignorant statement.  God gave us free will which allows us the choice.  Some people suffer for the choices of other people but that doesn't mean God made it.
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« Reply #82 on: December 08, 2017, 09:08:07 am »
@Jazzhead

Exactly, we are all judged based on our actions aka behaviors.  Every single person makes mistakes but there is a difference between making a mistake and making an effort to not repeat, and choosing to live in that mistake and glorify it. 

God doesn't make people gay, thats a ignorant statement.  God gave us free will which allows us the choice.  Some people suffer for the choices of other people but that doesn't mean God made it.

Did God make human DNA?

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« Reply #83 on: December 08, 2017, 09:11:34 am »

God doesn't make people gay, thats a ignorant statement.  God gave us free will which allows us the choice.  Some people suffer for the choices of other people but that doesn't mean God made it.

God makes some of us gay just as He makes most of us straight.  Our free will permits us to choose to be monogamous and faithful, or promiscuous and faithless.   

But some Christians will condemn the homosexual even if he/she chooses the life of monogamy and faithfulness.   That's, well, abominable.   
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« Reply #84 on: December 08, 2017, 09:17:46 am »
Did God make human DNA?

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I thought it evolved?    make up your mind.

But yes i believe God made our DNA, and it was made perfectly.  Then Adam and Eve disobeyed God and we started having to answer for our mistakes.   Sometimes our mistakes and poor choices impact other people, including our children.
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« Reply #85 on: December 08, 2017, 09:19:19 am »
God makes some of us gay just as He makes most of us straight.  Our free will permits us to choose to be monogamous and faithful, or promiscuous and faithless.   

But some Christians will condemn the homosexual even if he/she chooses the life of monogamy and faithfulness.   That's, well, abominable.

@Jazzhead
God made us male and female.  Then he told us that sex is between husband and wife in holy matrimony.   Anything outside of that is outside of Gods will.   Why would he "make" us something that is against his will?
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« Reply #86 on: December 08, 2017, 11:11:36 am »
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God doesn't make people gay, thats a ignorant statement.  God gave us free will which allows us the choice.  Some people suffer for the choices of other people but that doesn't mean God made it.

Does God make Type 1 diabetics, people born with missing limbs, twins fused together?  Where are these peoples free choice not to be born that way?

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« Reply #87 on: December 08, 2017, 11:16:20 am »
Some here paint all gays with one broad paint brush. Not all gays are like Folson parade idiots, Perez Hilton, etc.


Most of the gays I know you would not know they are gay . They dress normal, many are conservative. A good friend of mine who is gay has a gun collection that would make most freeper males envious.

What is funnier yet there are many gays you meet in everyday life who just don't say they are gay I bet you are friends with.


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« Reply #88 on: December 08, 2017, 11:16:26 am »
@Jazzhead
God made us male and female.  Then he told us that sex is between husband and wife in holy matrimony.   Anything outside of that is outside of Gods will.   Why would he "make" us something that is against his will?

That's an odd statement.  The OT is one long story about how God made the Jews His people and how they repeatedly and continuously acted against His will and Torah. 

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« Reply #89 on: December 08, 2017, 11:17:55 am »
Does God make Type 1 diabetics, people born with missing limbs, twins fused together?  Where are these peoples free choice not to be born that way?

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If Adam and Eve had stayed in the Garden we would not have disease or hunger.   Or work for that matter.   

So yes life does get difficult at times.   You should try being separated from God if you think this is difficult.

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« Reply #90 on: December 08, 2017, 11:19:51 am »
@mirraflake
If Adam and Eve had stayed in the Garden we would not have disease or hunger.   Or work for that matter.   

So yes life does get difficult at times.   You should try being separated from God if you think this is difficult.

Adam and Eve, while in the Garden, acted against God's will.

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« Reply #91 on: December 08, 2017, 11:20:03 am »
That's an odd statement.  The OT is one long story about how God made the Jews His people and how they repeatedly and continuously acted against His will and Torah.

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Whats an odd statement and how is your comment related to mine?
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« Reply #92 on: December 08, 2017, 11:21:07 am »
Some here paint all gays with one broad paint brush. Not all gays are like Folson parade idiots, Perez Hilton, etc.


Most of the gays I know you would not know they are gay . They dress normal, many are conservative. A good friend of mine who is gay has a gun collection that would make most freeper males envious.

What is funnier yet there are many gays you meet in everyday life who just don't say they are gay I bet you are friends with.

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The only broad brush going on here is the attacks on Christians.
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Re: New Study Shows Gay Men Have Variation Of DNA Over Straight men
« Reply #93 on: December 08, 2017, 11:22:13 am »
Well, in a couple of generations we'll have proof one way or the other.  Since taking a wife as cover is no longer needed, homosexuality have been normalized throughout the Western world, if it's genetic, with homosexuals no longer pushed into mating with women, the incidence rate should decline.  If it's a choice, having been normalized and "celebrated" by the left, the incidence rate should increase.



Please, before you continue to embarrass yourself with that idiotic first statement read some basic high school biology books will ya??

As for the last line, rates of gay and lesbians have been the same as 40 years ago..just more people are now open about it.

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« Reply #94 on: December 08, 2017, 11:22:13 am »
Adam and Eve, while in the Garden, acted against God's will.

Which is why they were booted, evicted, tossed, summarily thrown out, asked to leave (pick your favorite) the Garden.
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Re: New Study Shows Gay Men Have Variation Of DNA Over Straight men
« Reply #95 on: December 08, 2017, 11:23:42 am »
Abuse.  Neglect.  Abandonment.  Rape by a man.  Any number of issues might cause the removal of what is natural.

Total BS.

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« Reply #96 on: December 08, 2017, 11:24:46 am »
Please, before you continue to embarrass yourself with that idiotic first statement read some basic high school biology books will ya??

As for the last line, rates of gay and lesbians have been the same as 40 years ago..just more people are now open about it.

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Gays seem to want the rest of us to believe that being homosexual is something new.   No its been around for all of recorded history and each society makes up its mind how to act towards it.   

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Re: New Study Shows Gay Men Have Variation Of DNA Over Straight men
« Reply #97 on: December 08, 2017, 11:25:27 am »
Do we have anybody with degrees in Biology?

Do we have anybody that has studied DNA, genetics, from any standpoint?

--genealogy
--medical research and treatments
--paternity
--national/regional origins
--criminology
--other

Anybody know what Haplogroups and Haplotypes are? SNPs?
Y-DNA and mt-DNA and autosomal DNA. Epigenetics?


Their minds are closed.
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« Reply #98 on: December 08, 2017, 11:28:26 am »

Their minds are closed.
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You are the ones that are trying to use science to support your predetermined opinion.  Despite there being no science to support your theory.  Even this 'study' is poorly done and doesnt support the headline.

No, 'science' says that humans are complex beings and science can't explain much of what we do.   Much of human behavior comes down to if it feels good then some people will do it regardless of the long term consequences.
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Re: New Study Shows Gay Men Have Variation Of DNA Over Straight men
« Reply #99 on: December 08, 2017, 11:37:32 am »
Some here paint all gays with one broad paint brush. Not all gays are like Folson parade idiots, Perez Hilton, etc.


Most of the gays I know you would not know they are gay . They dress normal, many are conservative. A good friend of mine who is gay has a gun collection that would make most freeper males envious.

What is funnier yet there are many gays you meet in everyday life who just don't say they are gay I bet you are friends with.

freeper?