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Re: Trump still privately questions Obama's birth certificate: report
« Reply #125 on: December 01, 2017, 12:36:28 am »
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« Reply #126 on: December 01, 2017, 01:19:03 am »
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Mike Zullo will be on Freedom Friday with Carl Gallups for the first full hour of the show. They will be giving the very latest on the Obama Fraud saga and some "inside" info never heard before. Tune in tomorrow at 5 PM ET. President Trump is STILL talking about it as reported in the news yesterday. This issue is not dead - not by a longshot. Get the scoop tomorrow 5 PM ET on FREEDOM FRIDAY WITH CARL GALLUPS


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Re: Trump still privately questions Obama's birth certificate: report
« Reply #127 on: December 03, 2017, 12:00:49 am »
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IT'S NOT OVER YET!
Mike Zullo will be on Freedom Friday with Carl Gallups for the first full hour of the show. They will be giving the very latest on the Obama Fraud saga and some "inside" info never heard before. Tune in tomorrow at 5 PM ET. President Trump is STILL talking about it as reported in the news yesterday. This issue is not dead - not by a longshot. Get the scoop tomorrow 5 PM ET on FREEDOM FRIDAY WITH CARL GALLUPS


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One of the most important things about being "smart," speaking colloquially, is being wise. 

The really smart guys and gals on this forum will be, first of all, open-minded enough to entertain monumentally serious allegations of audacious, treasonous conspiracy against our Republic by liberal politicos (especially those with Obama's shady background of Communism [i.e., Davis, Alinsky, Ayers, and the whole "community organizing" mess] and will go to the trouble of digging further, thereby noticing that MikeZullo has MASSIVE proof that the Long-Form BC is a forgery--and not even a very good one at that. 

I was already more or less convinced of the overall fraud concerning Obama's citizenship based on the evidence that Arpaio's posse had amassed as of a few years ago--which I reviewed at the time of his first press conference in the context of very interesting evidence I had already seen all the way back before the 2008 DNC Convention in Denver, in fact--but I flatly submit that the evidence that Zullo is now presenting in public is now overwhelming. 

(Notice that I did not qualify that with "IMHO."  I am not being humble, but also not being merely opinionated.  I am simply stating a fact--as any thinking person would discover upon reviewing the evidence.  [One does not have to possess a high IQ to be smart enough to think through the evidence in the case.  One merely has to be smart enough to be willing to look at the evidence.])

Perhaps the most important point that I am making here is that it is not at all smart to reject out of hand the Birthers' allegations as tinfoil-hat stuff just because all three Branches of the federal government, along with the MSM and even many conservative pundits, have disparaged the Birthers.  Many of those anti-Birthers are shrewd but not really smart, and the person who thinks the anti-Birthers are surely smart enough (and honest enough) to be reliable is a fool.  My goodness, an astonishing percentage of personnel in the federal government and the media are crooks or cowards or complete fools (often all three at once).  I actually think that we could say that most of them in our day are crooks or cowards or fools.  (We live in an extraordinarily evil world, even though many of the evil people in our own country do not grasp how bad it is in our beloved Republic.  [I believe the mess is way, way worse than even most conservative Republicans realize.])   

Zullo's very impressive team has discovered precisely how the Obama BC was digitally created from another BC in the Hawaiian database.  The use of that particular BC is not new info, but the details of the forger's procedure have become crystal clear in recent months.  And when I listened to Zullo's radio interview with Carl Gallups yesterday, I learned about what Zullo had characterized about a year ago as "universe-shattering" revelations concerning the BC conspiracy.  It turns out that Hawaiian birth records were hacked several times over a period of four years, and all of these meddlings came from a single ISP address in the Washington D.C. area.

Zullo played his revelatory cards close to his vest, but he did insinuate that he can make an extraordinarily strong case that leading persons of the White House, the FBI, the Congress, the Judiciary, the U.S. military and the MSM are all co-conspirators in the birthplace fraud.  In so many words, Zullo characterized the conspiracy as the most awful case of treason in American history--which is what he meant when he spoke of a "universe-shattering" thing.

(It remains to be seen what Zullo can prove about the network of conspirators.  He has placed all of the posse's evidence in the hands of several trustworthy, important authorities, but he also said yesterday that he has no intentions to press forward unless and until President Trump drains the D.C. swamp.  Zullo is persuaded that the conspiracy is so massive and so powerful that adequate prosecutions will likely be thwarted.)   

***

By the way, I happen to regard Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin as two of the top five or so smartest and most hard-working guys in talk radio.  And yet their stance regarding the Birther theory was nothing short of lazy and stupid, IMHO.  (Clint Eastwood is actually smarter and more gutsy than Limbaugh and Levin.  Early on, Eastwood stuck his Hollywood neck out and denounced Obama as the biggest hoax in American history.)
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Re: Trump still privately questions Obama's birth certificate: report
« Reply #129 on: December 03, 2017, 01:42:49 am »
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One of the most important things about being "smart," speaking colloquially, is being wise. 

The really smart guys and gals on this forum will be, first of all, open-minded enough to entertain monumentally serious allegations of audacious, treasonous conspiracy against our Republic by liberal politicos (especially those with Obama's shady background of Communism [i.e., Davis, Alinsky, Ayers, and the whole "community organizing" mess] and will go to the trouble of digging further, thereby noticing that MikeZullo has MASSIVE proof that the Long-Form BC is a forgery--and not even a very good one at that. 

I was already more or less convinced of the overall fraud concerning Obama's citizenship based on the evidence that Arpaio's posse had amassed as of a few years ago--which I reviewed at the time of his first press conference in the context of very interesting evidence I had already seen all the way back before the 2008 DNC Convention in Denver, in fact--but I flatly submit that the evidence that Zullo is now presenting in public is now overwhelming. 

(Notice that I did not qualify that with "IMHO."  I am not being humble, but also not being merely opinionated.  I am simply stating a fact--as any thinking person would discover upon reviewing the evidence.  [One does not have to possess a high IQ to be smart enough to think through the evidence in the case.  One merely has to be smart enough to be willing to look at the evidence.])

Perhaps the most important point that I am making here is that it is not at all smart to reject out of hand the Birthers' allegations as tinfoil-hat stuff just because all three Branches of the federal government, along with the MSM and even many conservative pundits, have disparaged the Birthers.  Many of those anti-Birthers are shrewd but not really smart, and the person who thinks the anti-Birthers are surely smart enough (and honest enough) to be reliable is a fool.  My goodness, an astonishing percentage of personnel in the federal government and the media are crooks or cowards or complete fools (often all three at once).  I actually think that we could say that most of them in our day are crooks or cowards or fools.  (We live in an extraordinarily evil world, even though many of the evil people in our own country do not grasp how bad it is in our beloved Republic.  [I believe the mess is way, way worse than even most conservative Republicans realize.])   

Zullo's very impressive team has discovered precisely how the Obama BC was digitally created from another BC in the Hawaiian database.  The use of that particular BC is not new info, but the details of the forger's procedure have become crystal clear in recent months.  And when I listened to Zullo's radio interview with Carl Gallups yesterday, I learned about what Zullo had characterized about a year ago as "universe-shattering" revelations concerning the BC conspiracy.  It turns out that Hawaiian birth records were hacked several times over a period of four years, and all of these meddlings came from a single ISP address in the Washington D.C. area.

Zullo played his revelatory cards close to his vest, but he did insinuate that he can make an extraordinarily strong case that leading persons of the White House, the FBI, the Congress, the Judiciary, the U.S. military and the MSM are all co-conspirators in the birthplace fraud.  In so many words, Zullo characterized the conspiracy as the most awful case of treason in American history--which is what he meant when he spoke of a "universe-shattering" thing.

(It remains to be seen what Zullo can prove about the network of conspirators.  He has placed all of the posse's evidence in the hands of several trustworthy, important authorities, but he also said yesterday that he has no intentions to press forward unless and until President Trump drains the D.C. swamp.  Zullo is persuaded that the conspiracy is so massive and so powerful that adequate prosecutions will likely be thwarted.)   

***

By the way, I happen to regard Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin as two of the top five or so smartest and most hard-working guys in talk radio.  And yet their stance regarding the Birther theory was nothing short of lazy and stupid, IMHO.  (Clint Eastwood is actually smarter and more gutsy than Limbaugh and Levin.  Early on, Eastwood stuck his Hollywood neck out and denounced Obama as the biggest hoax in American history.)

Thanks for the ping.  Interesting and, yes, I believe it.

As far as Rush is concerned, I understand his not taking an active role in this.  The MSM had been so successful in painting people who were suspicious of Obama's birth certificate as nutso birthers that it would have been suicidal for him to take it on at that point in time.

Clint Eastwood, on the other hand, had nothing to lose.  His place in Hollywood was and is totally secure.
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Re: Trump still privately questions Obama's birth certificate: report
« Reply #130 on: December 03, 2017, 02:27:14 am »
Thanks for the ping.  Interesting and, yes, I believe it.

As far as Rush is concerned, I understand his not taking an active role in this.  The MSM had been so successful in painting people who were suspicious of Obama's birth certificate as nutso birthers that it would have been suicidal for him to take it on at that point in time.

Clint Eastwood, on the other hand, had nothing to lose.  His place in Hollywood was and is totally secure.

My complaint is that Rush and Mark had no business affirming that Obama was born in Hawaii when they could not possibly know that.  Unfortunately, I believe that they both took that stance publicly on at least one occasion each, after having essentially said that they weren't "going there." 

Heck, if I had been in their position, I would never have said "I'm not going there."  The truth is too important.  (I would have regarded my self-designed job description as specifying that I must never say "I'm not going there.")  I would have reviewed the evidence and said loudly and clearly to a national radio audience "Hey, this Birth Certificate stuff is serious.  The Birthers have uncovered something that my listeners need to know about.  Wherever Obama was born, he certainly can't prove his birthplace from the alleged Birth Certificate that he posted on the White House website.  Congress really ought to man up and get to the bottom of this mess."

I don't think it would have cost Limbaugh or Levin anything to issue a warning to that effect.  I actually think the controversy might have improved their ratings.  And their sponsors would have stayed with them if their ratings remained strong. 

Now that the pendulum of public awareness is swinging back in favor of the Birthers, Rush and Mark would be sitting pretty if they had done what I have described above.  And they would be in a much better position to use their extraordinary broadcast influence to clamor for justice meted out to Obama and his co-conspirators.

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Re: Trump still privately questions Obama's birth certificate: report
« Reply #131 on: December 03, 2017, 02:52:01 am »
My complaint is that Rush and Mark had no business affirming that Obama was born in Hawaii when they could not possibly know that.  Unfortunately, I believe that they both took that stance publicly on at least one occasion each, after having essentially said that they weren't "going there." 

Heck, if I had been in their position, I would never have said "I'm not going there."  The truth is too important.  (I would have regarded my self-designed job description as specifying that I must never say "I'm not going there.")  I would have reviewed the evidence and said loudly and clearly to a national radio audience "Hey, this Birth Certificate stuff is serious.  The Birthers have uncovered something that my listeners need to know about.  Wherever Obama was born, he certainly can't prove his birthplace from the alleged Birth Certificate that he posted on the White House website.  Congress really ought to man up and get to the bottom of this mess."

I don't think it would have cost Limbaugh or Levin anything to issue a warning to that effect.  I actually think the controversy might have improved their ratings.  And their sponsors would have stayed with them if their ratings remained strong. 

Now that the pendulum of public awareness is swinging back in favor of the Birthers, Rush and Mark would be sitting pretty if they had done what I have described above.  And they would be in a much better position to use their extraordinary broadcast influence to clamor for justice meted out to Obama and his co-conspirators.

And, some things are more important than ratings.

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Re: Trump still privately questions Obama's birth certificate: report
« Reply #132 on: December 03, 2017, 03:02:39 am »
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Your post above deserves a much more complete response than I have the time or energy to provide at this hour. I have been out attending Christmas festivities in our town this evening.  I will try to sit down tomorrow sometime after Church and compose a proper response.

For now, I will just say that I KNOW that there is much truth in what you have already said and leave it at that.
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« Reply #133 on: December 03, 2017, 04:02:49 pm »
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« Reply #134 on: December 03, 2017, 04:13:04 pm »
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Your post above deserves a much more complete response than I have the time or energy to provide at this hour. I have been out attending Christmas festivities in our town this evening.  I will try to sit down tomorrow sometime after Church and compose a proper response.

For now, I will just say that I KNOW that there is much truth in what you have already said and leave it at that.
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« Reply #135 on: December 03, 2017, 04:48:23 pm »
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As promised, here is my reply to your earlier post on this thread.

As a young man I, like many others of my age group, were called upon to go to a foreign land and fight Communists there in order to prevent "other dominoes" from falling. We did OUR part of the job but the "dominoes" fell anyway because of the actions of subversives within our own government and not any military failure. That experience sparked a life long quest for me to discover the roots of all that.  Here is, in Cliff note version only, what I have discovered.

In 1848 the Communist Manifesto was published in London and there followed a series of failed socialist revolutions that same year in parts of Europe. All failed and many of the leaders of those failed efforts managed to escape Europe only a half step ahead of the hangman. Many of them made this country their new home and some became very prominent citizens here and were instrumental in the forming of the then new Republican Party and the subsequent election of Abraham Lincoln as our president. When war became inevitable because of that many of these same men (historians call them the 48ers) were rewarded with officer ships in Mr. Lincoln's Army. Some of them as high in rank as Major General, one of which maintained and continuing correspondence with Karl Marx himself until Mr. Marx died long after the war had ended. After the war many of those same men were rewarded for their war service with government jobs at various levels and cultures were created within the various agencies where these people worked.  That was the genesis. The process was very much accelerated under the presidencies of Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, and Harry Truman. 

When the Berlin wall came down we began to hear the cry "Communism is dead" throughout the land but the truth of the matter is anything but that!  The reason that was allowed to happen (the wall I mean) is that, in the minds of the international Communists at least, they had already won and playing along with the meme that "Communism is dead" would now work very much in their favor and, IMHO, it most assuredly has done so.

If you know and accept that history it will explain for you many events which have occurred over the course of our lifetimes. Why Richard Nixon had to be taken down for example. (He was a close associate of and worked with Senator Joseph McCarthy. He knew too much!)

Fast forward to Mr. Obama who is not IMHO a communist but IS very much a member of the Muslim Brotherhood and not averse to using "useful idiots" where ever he may find them.  The presidency was bought for Mr. Obama by the Mullahs currently running Iran and he was required to install Valarie Jarrett (the brain) as his confidant and advisor.  The Communist in his administration were there simply because their agendas suited their purposes as well and, as we all know, they were successful beyond even their wildest dreams.

Make of it what you will, that is what I know and believe to be the truth.

   
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« Reply #136 on: December 03, 2017, 05:20:56 pm »
@Bigun, do you think it is possible to be a communist and a muslim?  Are they antithetical?

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« Reply #137 on: December 03, 2017, 05:26:30 pm »
@Bigun, do you think it is possible to be a communist and a muslim?  Are they antithetical?

The latter!  At least according to their doctrine.  But you must understand that both use the same methods to accomplish their goals.
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« Reply #138 on: December 03, 2017, 05:32:52 pm »
The latter!  At least according to their doctrine.  But you must understand that both use the same methods to accomplish their goals.

I agree with that.  Moslims consider themselves deeply religious, in their own way.  Commies consider themselves just as deeply Atheistic.  They both consider each other Useful Idiots, who will be dispatched as soon as they get rid of Christians and Capitalists. 

In the end, if they ever get their way, they will turn on each other.
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« Reply #139 on: December 03, 2017, 05:42:17 pm »


One of the most important things about being "smart," speaking colloquially, is being wise. 

The really smart guys and gals on this forum will be, first of all, open-minded enough to entertain monumentally serious allegations of audacious, treasonous conspiracy against our Republic by liberal politicos (especially those with Obama's shady background of Communism [i.e., Davis, Alinsky, Ayers, and the whole "community organizing" mess] and will go to the trouble of digging further, thereby noticing that MikeZullo has MASSIVE proof that the Long-Form BC is a forgery--and not even a very good one at that. 

I was already more or less convinced of the overall fraud concerning Obama's citizenship based on the evidence that Arpaio's posse had amassed as of a few years ago--which I reviewed at the time of his first press conference in the context of very interesting evidence I had already seen all the way back before the 2008 DNC Convention in Denver, in fact--but I flatly submit that the evidence that Zullo is now presenting in public is now overwhelming. 

(Notice that I did not qualify that with "IMHO."  I am not being humble, but also not being merely opinionated.  I am simply stating a fact--as any thinking person would discover upon reviewing the evidence.  [One does not have to possess a high IQ to be smart enough to think through the evidence in the case.  One merely has to be smart enough to be willing to look at the evidence.])

Perhaps the most important point that I am making here is that it is not at all smart to reject out of hand the Birthers' allegations as tinfoil-hat stuff just because all three Branches of the federal government, along with the MSM and even many conservative pundits, have disparaged the Birthers.  Many of those anti-Birthers are shrewd but not really smart, and the person who thinks the anti-Birthers are surely smart enough (and honest enough) to be reliable is a fool.  My goodness, an astonishing percentage of personnel in the federal government and the media are crooks or cowards or complete fools (often all three at once).  I actually think that we could say that most of them in our day are crooks or cowards or fools.  (We live in an extraordinarily evil world, even though many of the evil people in our own country do not grasp how bad it is in our beloved Republic.  [I believe the mess is way, way worse than even most conservative Republicans realize.])   

Zullo's very impressive team has discovered precisely how the Obama BC was digitally created from another BC in the Hawaiian database.  The use of that particular BC is not new info, but the details of the forger's procedure have become crystal clear in recent months.  And when I listened to Zullo's radio interview with Carl Gallups yesterday, I learned about what Zullo had characterized about a year ago as "universe-shattering" revelations concerning the BC conspiracy.  It turns out that Hawaiian birth records were hacked several times over a period of four years, and all of these meddlings came from a single ISP address in the Washington D.C. area.

Zullo played his revelatory cards close to his vest, but he did insinuate that he can make an extraordinarily strong case that leading persons of the White House, the FBI, the Congress, the Judiciary, the U.S. military and the MSM are all co-conspirators in the birthplace fraud.  In so many words, Zullo characterized the conspiracy as the most awful case of treason in American history--which is what he meant when he spoke of a "universe-shattering" thing.

(It remains to be seen what Zullo can prove about the network of conspirators.  He has placed all of the posse's evidence in the hands of several trustworthy, important authorities, but he also said yesterday that he has no intentions to press forward unless and until President Trump drains the D.C. swamp.  Zullo is persuaded that the conspiracy is so massive and so powerful that adequate prosecutions will likely be thwarted.)   

***

By the way, I happen to regard Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin as two of the top five or so smartest and most hard-working guys in talk radio.  And yet their stance regarding the Birther theory was nothing short of lazy and stupid, IMHO.  (Clint Eastwood is actually smarter and more gutsy than Limbaugh and Levin.  Early on, Eastwood stuck his Hollywood neck out and denounced Obama as the biggest hoax in American history.)

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I've read through your message twice now, and can not find one word (or point) that I am in disagreement with to any degree of substance!!  Thanks for collecting and sharing those thoughts!

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« Reply #140 on: December 03, 2017, 05:44:24 pm »
Doc,
I've read through your message twice now, and can not find one word (or point) that I am in disagreement with to any degree of substance!!  Thanks for collecting and sharing those thoughts!

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« Reply #141 on: December 03, 2017, 05:54:07 pm »
I agree with that.  Moslims consider themselves deeply religious, in their own way.  Commies consider themselves just as deeply Atheistic.  They both consider each other Useful Idiots, who will be dispatched as soon as they get rid of Christians and Capitalists. 

In the end, if they ever get their way, they will turn on each other.

I think 0bama is that rare animal who is culturally muslim but dedicated to the ideals and goals of communism. 

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« Reply #142 on: December 03, 2017, 05:57:52 pm »
I think 0bama is that rare animal who is culturally muslim but dedicated to the ideals and goals of communism.

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Then I would respectfully suggest that you do not fully understand him or his true "religion" which, as it turns out, is not a true religion at all but a political movement under the cloak of religion.
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« Reply #143 on: December 03, 2017, 06:07:30 pm »
@Sanguine

Then I would respectfully suggest that you do not fully understand him or his true "religion" which, as it turns out, is not a true religion at all but a political movement under the cloak of religion.

I don't think he considers Islam to be his "true religion," in the sense that he does not believe in living to its tenants.  If he did, he'd have thrown himself off a building for being gay a long time ago.  It's merely the religion he was brought up in when he went to Moslem schools, nothing more.  I think he is first, and foremost, a Commie, and that makes his personal version of Islam workable. He still tries to adhere to the parts of it he finds easy (like not wearing his wedding band during Ramabomb), and he still thinks the Arab call to prayer is the most beautiful sound in the world, but he'd toss away whatever aspects of that he has to in order to serve Marxism.

And I don't think he's that rare an animal.
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Re: Trump still privately questions Obama's birth certificate: report
« Reply #144 on: December 03, 2017, 06:11:58 pm »
I don't think he considers Islam to be his "true religion," in the sense that he does not believe in living to its tenants.  If he did, he'd have thrown himself off a building for being gay a long time ago.  It's merely the religion he was brought up in when he went to Moslem schools, nothing more.  I think he is first, and foremost, a Commie, and that makes his personal version of Islam workable. He still tries to adhere to the parts of it he finds easy (like not wearing his wedding band during Ramabomb), and he still thinks the Arab call to prayer is the most beautiful sound in the world, but he'd toss away whatever aspects of that he has to in order to serve Marxism.

And I don't think he's that rare an animal.

Either way the result is the same as far as we are concerned.
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Re: Trump still privately questions Obama's birth certificate: report
« Reply #145 on: December 03, 2017, 06:19:37 pm »
Either way the result is the same as far as we are concerned.

Agreed.  And it explains the dog-eating part too.
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Re: Trump still privately questions Obama's birth certificate: report
« Reply #146 on: December 03, 2017, 08:56:15 pm »
I don't think he considers Islam to be his "true religion," in the sense that he does not believe in living to its tenants.  If he did, he'd have thrown himself off a building for being gay a long time ago.  It's merely the religion he was brought up in when he went to Moslem schools, nothing more.  I think he is first, and foremost, a Commie, and that makes his personal version of Islam workable. He still tries to adhere to the parts of it he finds easy (like not wearing his wedding band during Ramabomb), and he still thinks the Arab call to prayer is the most beautiful sound in the world, but he'd toss away whatever aspects of that he has to in order to serve Marxism.

And I don't think he's that rare an animal.
Let's not forget that he is a Democrat. They helped make him, too. They think they are using the Muslims as useful tools, in that they can when they go off on some jihadi bent be used to push for more measures denying rights and increasing "safety". Much of the onus is pushed off on domestic terrorists which are then redefined as old christian white men. Both love totalitarian government and the perversion of the Constitution, so they are fellow travelers in that sense. While it seems an unlikely alliance, their mutual 'victimhood' is used to subvert our western culture, and their willingness to break the law is paramount.

The only question is one of who is using who?

The Obama administration can be characterized by the sort of outrageous endemic corruption that reads like an unlikely spy novel. That is its best line of defense, in that reality is so convoluted and extensive people either refuse to attempt to sort out the networks, or decry it as a "conspiracy theory".

Sometimes, a conspiracy is just a conspiracy, no matter how elaborate and far reaching.
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Re: Trump still privately questions Obama's birth certificate: report
« Reply #147 on: December 03, 2017, 08:59:24 pm »
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Sometimes, a conspiracy is just a conspiracy, no matter how elaborate and far reaching.

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Re: Trump still privately questions Obama's birth certificate: report
« Reply #148 on: December 03, 2017, 10:15:19 pm »
I think 0bama is that rare animal who is culturally muslim but dedicated to the ideals and goals of communism.

Although all consistent Communists are atheists--which is one of the main reasons for the Afghan mujahideen's fervor against the Soviets in the past--there might very well be many Communists who are anti-Christian and anti-Semitic but not otherwise committed to the fully atheistic position of classical Communism.  (Perhaps we should call such folks communists rather than Communists.)  The paradigm for this taxonomic theory is this:  a politico who is radically liberal in all social issues (e.g., pro-abortion, pro-LGBT, anti-Bill of Rights, pro-Globalism) might happened to be worried about fiscal responsibility under a full-blown Socialist state, but he is still a radical liberal.    He wants to stamp out those who disagree with him as he seeks to re-engineer our society.

If my model is correct, it is completely reasonable to call Obama a radical Muslim communist.  Radical Islam is a political ideology of global conquest through lying subterfuges, infiltration, terrorism, and violent revolution ending in brutal slavery;  so is Communism.  Radical Islam hates Christians and Jews;  so does Communism.

Although Obama certainly appears to have embraced the sneaky, virulent communism of his mentors, he has also embraced the Islam of his childhood, even if selectively so (e.g., retaining his affinities for gays). 

For that matter, some of Obama's Muslim beliefs may be disguised as a matter of Islam-endorsed deception.  Who knows for sure?  Anyway, he has fawned over Islam in numerous ways, and he has definitely supported the Muslim Brotherhood et al, so it pretty hard not to call him a gay-inclined variant of Islam. 

Again, Islam's goals and those of communism are very, very close together, and I think my taxonomy is necessary. 
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Re: Trump still privately questions Obama's birth certificate: report
« Reply #149 on: December 03, 2017, 10:50:24 pm »
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(Actually, I have gotten well beyond questioning his birthplace.)

Its been a long time but I think his own grandmother said he was born in Kenya.

And this link showing how the forged document was made.


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