Did David and Solomon's United Monarchy Exist? Vast Ancient Mining Operation May Hold Answers

[rangerrebew]

Did David and Solomon's United Monarchy Exist? Vast Ancient Mining Operation May Hold Answers

Archaeology has provided precious little evidence for the biblical account of a powerful Judaic kingdom 3,000 years ago, but the sheer extent of copper mining in Timna, when Egypt was in a state of collapse, is otherwise hard to explain
By Philippe Bohstrom Nov 21, 2017

read more: https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/1.823580

[KingsX]

Why aren't Jews still separated by tribe ??

[roamer_1]

Why aren't Jews still separated by tribe ??

They are, but there's only 3 tribes there... Judah, Benjamin, and Levi
Stay tuned...

[KingsX]

In the book of Revelation,  the city of New Jerusalem has 12 gates,
one for each of the 12 tribes of Israel to enter.  Yet the Jews are not
divided into 12 tribes like the Israelites in the Bible.

Ironically, the EU's 12 stars symbolize European nations [tribes ??]
EU's circle of 12 stars is similar to Israel's crown of 12 stars in Rev 12.

[roamer_1]

In the book of Revelation,  the city of New Jerusalem has 12 gates,
one for each of the 12 tribes of Israel to enter.  Yet the Jews are not
divided into 12 tribes like the Israelites in the Bible.

Exactly as prophesied. There are only 3 (The House of Judah). What you're missing is where are the other 10 (The House of Israel)?
Like I said. Stay tuned.

[KingsX]

Exactly as prophesied. There are only 3 (The House of Judah). What you're missing is where are the other 10 (The House of Israel)?
Like I said. Stay tuned.

I am Biblically and historically literate... so I don't miss much.

James 1:1 addresses all 12 tribes of Israel scattered abroad in the
name of Jesus Christ.

They had been scattered among the gentiles since the 8th century BC
when Assyria destroyed the Northern Kingdom of Israel and removed
the 10 northern tribes from the holy land.  One of the places Assyria
moved those Israelites was in the territory of the Aryan Medes. Two
centuries later,  Cyrus [who Isaiah 45 calls God's anointed] united
Aryan Persians and Aryan Medes and conquered Babylon, liberating
the Southern Israel tribes from Babylonian captivity and decreeing
some of those Israelites return to Jerusalem and rebuild the temple. [Ezra 1]

But in Jesus' time,  not all "Jews" were Israelites because Edomites
had been "converted" en masse over a century before so they could
live in the Kingdom of Israel [Judah/Judea.]  For example,  King Herod
was an Edomite-Jew who tore down the second temple [that Cyrus
had decreed built] to rebuild Herod's third temple, putting his own
people in charge.  This was the same King Herod who tried to murder
the Christ child by ordering the murder of the babes of Bethlehem.

To quote the title of a famous book,  there was a "thirteenth tribe"...
but it was not Israelite,  it was Edomite.  An important historical
fact to know when reading the New Testament.

[roamer_1]

I am Biblically and historically literate... so I don't miss much.

James 1:1 addresses all 12 tribes of Israel scattered abroad in the
name of Jesus Christ.

They had been scattered among the gentiles since the 8th century BC
when Assyria destroyed the Northern Kingdom of Israel and removed
the 10 northern tribes from the holy land.  One of the places Assyria
moved those Israelites was in the territory of the Aryan Medes. Two
centuries later,  Cyrus [who Isaiah 45 calls God's anointed] united
Aryan Persians and Aryan Medes and conquered Babylon, liberating
the Southern Israel tribes from Babylonian captivity and decreeing
some of those Israelites return to Jerusalem and rebuild the temple. [Ezra 1]

But in Jesus' time,  not all "Jews" were Israelites because Edomites
had been "converted" en masse over a century before so they could
live in the Kingdom of Israel [Judah/Judea.]  For example,  King Herod
was an Edomite-Jew who tore down the second temple [that Cyrus
had decreed built] to rebuild Herod's third temple, putting his own
people in charge.  This was the same King Herod who tried to murder
the Christ child by ordering the murder of the babes of Bethlehem.

To quote the title of a famous book,  there was a "thirteenth tribe"...
but it was not Israelite,  it was Edomite.  An important historical
fact to know when reading the New Testament.

There has never been the return of the House of Israel as prophesied.
They are prophesied to be joined with Gomer, and then be spread through all the Nations, where they would forget their name... Gomer went north to the Caucus Mountains, likely present as part of Parthia by the time of Rome.

I am fully aware of Idumean /Edom. But if they were in fact converted, by Torah, they would no longer be Edom, but Judah, similar in kind to the Khazarim/ Ashkenazi. The first fully circumcised generation capable of attending Pasach is fully Israel, just as the mixed multitude coming out of Egypt. The point being that they (idumean) did not convert. That they were called of Edom proves it.

A fun topic, but I'll bet we have to take it PM or email, as it will no doubt border on history, and tip into religion.