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Re: JUST IN: House releases new sweeping tax plan and here’s the details… [UPDATED WITH MORE]
« Reply #150 on: November 03, 2017, 12:52:14 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on November 03, 2017, 12:41:51 am
I actually lived in Jacksonville, before I moved to Phoenix....
I live near Jacksonville and think it is a pretty nice place.
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Re: JUST IN: House releases new sweeping tax plan and here’s the details… [UPDATED WITH MORE]
« Reply #151 on: November 03, 2017, 12:53:37 am »
Quote from: KingsX on November 03, 2017, 12:40:00 am
I intentionally keep my income small.  I intentionally try to keep my federal taxes as low as possible because the federal government is an evil abomination and I don't want to feed it.  I have worked hard all my life to pay off my home and be totally out of debt so I could live on as small an income as possible.

I call BS.  If you really believed that, then you would be rejoicing that the people giving government the most would be having that burden cut.  But you didn't.  Instead, you complained about it.  And because of that, I do not believe your statement above.  And I resent hearing you complain about a 12% tax rate as though you are being wronged with zero regard for those now paying double that.  You are a selfish self-serving class-envying leftist through and through.
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Re: JUST IN: House releases new sweeping tax plan and here’s the details… [UPDATED WITH MORE]
« Reply #152 on: November 03, 2017, 12:53:56 am »
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Since I was in high school [which had a Confederate theme at that time]
my Texas hometown has gone from 95 percent Anglo to 30 percent Anglo
[probably less than 30 percent now.]

I don't know what the federal or state governments have been doing with
the taxes I pay. But obviously it was NOT to protect me from destroying
foreign demographic armies.




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Re: JUST IN: House releases new sweeping tax plan and here’s the details… [UPDATED WITH MORE]
« Reply #153 on: November 03, 2017, 12:54:30 am »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on November 03, 2017, 12:27:41 am
I got cussed out once on this forum for calling someone he when it was a she.  Now I cover the bases.  Like the Astros.

Heh.... 888high58888. 
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Re: JUST IN: House releases new sweeping tax plan and here’s the details… [UPDATED WITH MORE]
« Reply #154 on: November 03, 2017, 12:55:41 am »
Quote from: KingsX on November 03, 2017, 12:53:56 am
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Since I was in high school [which had a Confederate theme at that time]
my Texas hometown has gone from 95 percent Anglo to 30 percent Anglo
[probably less than 30 percent now.]

I don't know what the federal or state governments have been doing with
the taxes I pay. But obviously it was NOT to protect me from destroying
foreign demographic armies.

Thought you purposely keep your income low so's not to pay taxes.  :shrug:
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Re: JUST IN: House releases new sweeping tax plan and here’s the details… [UPDATED WITH MORE]
« Reply #155 on: November 03, 2017, 12:59:13 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on November 03, 2017, 12:53:37 am


I call BS.  If you really believed that, then you would be rejoicing that the people giving government the most would be having that burden cut. 



I don't care what you believe.  I have posted truth here.    You keep ignoring the reasons I have posted for hating the LYING GOP's tax plan.  Fortunately,  the odds are it will NOT become law.


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Re: JUST IN: House releases new sweeping tax plan and here’s the details… [UPDATED WITH MORE]
« Reply #156 on: November 03, 2017, 01:01:18 am »
Quote from: Fantom on November 03, 2017, 12:55:41 am


Thought you purposely keep your income low so's not to pay taxes.  :shrug:




I posted:   " I intentionally keep my income small.  I intentionally try to keep my federal taxes as low as possible... "
 
I have some control over my federal taxes because I am able to control my income... but I can't control Texas' high property or sales taxes [and apparently state officials can't either.]




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Re: JUST IN: House releases new sweeping tax plan and here’s the details… [UPDATED WITH MORE]
« Reply #157 on: November 03, 2017, 01:02:21 am »
   Of those you mention @IsailedawayfromFR only the construction of the Canyon Dam predate me (65 I think). The Tubing season was cut short this year by the arrival of Harvey, so now all the Snow Birds are landing sooner than expected, Wurstfest starts tomorrow, 10 days of sausage, beer and debauchery. Haven't been in a couple of years getting to old to do that every year anymore.
   I was wrong on my compass ~ due north on I35 (actually NE)
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Re: JUST IN: House releases new sweeping tax plan and here’s the details… [UPDATED WITH MORE]
« Reply #158 on: November 03, 2017, 01:03:20 am »
Quote from: KingsX on November 03, 2017, 12:53:56 am
I don't know what the federal or state governments have been doing with the taxes I pay.

Of course you don't!  You don't care!  You don't pay any, by your own admission!
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Re: JUST IN: House releases new sweeping tax plan and here’s the details… [UPDATED WITH MORE]
« Reply #159 on: November 03, 2017, 01:09:20 am »
Quote from: KingsX on November 03, 2017, 01:01:18 am

I have some control over my federal taxes because I am able to control my income... but I can't control Texas' high property or sales taxes [and apparently state officials can't either.]

https://www.thebalance.com/best-and-worst-states-for-property-taxes-3193328  Looks like Texas is 6th there.. behind many liberal/regressive States.

https://taxfoundation.org/state-and-local-sales-tax-rates-midyear-2017/ Sales tax...nope, Texas is pretty good there too.

All with no income tax... maybe you should look at moving to California.

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Re: JUST IN: House releases new sweeping tax plan and here’s the details… [UPDATED WITH MORE]
« Reply #160 on: November 03, 2017, 01:14:13 am »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on November 03, 2017, 12:52:14 am
I live near Jacksonville and think it is a pretty nice place.

Really?  It was OK when I lived there, and was surprised to find it on a shit list.  Ponta?  I liked it, but had to leave for opportunity.
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Re: JUST IN: House releases new sweeping tax plan and here’s the details… [UPDATED WITH MORE]
« Reply #161 on: November 03, 2017, 01:16:11 am »
    8.25% Sales Tax is about to bring millions into my little Texas town's gov for their stupid projects with their annual Wurstfest starting up tomorrow, Property Taxes are high and the Legislature is unable to cap this crap, BUT NO State Income Tax!
    I'm doing pretty good in Texas and I'm poor @KingsX
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Re: JUST IN: House releases new sweeping tax plan and here’s the details… [UPDATED WITH MORE]
« Reply #162 on: November 03, 2017, 01:17:23 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on November 03, 2017, 01:03:20 am


Of course you don't!  You don't care!  You don't pay any, by your own admission!



You would feel right at home with the LYING GOP leadership.  Are you "Lying Ted" traveling incognito ??

For the upteenth time,  because I paid off my house and have no debts,  I am able to control my income to pay the least amount of taxes as possible.

Do you have a problem with reading comprehension ??



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Re: JUST IN: House releases new sweeping tax plan and here’s the details… [UPDATED WITH MORE]
« Reply #163 on: November 03, 2017, 01:22:06 am »
Quote from: KingsX on November 03, 2017, 01:17:23 am

You would feel right at home with the LYING GOP leadership.  Are you "Lying Ted" traveling incognito ??

For the upteenth time,  because I paid off my house and have no debts,  I am able to control my income to pay the least amount of taxes as possible.

Do you have a problem with reading comprehension ??


Ohhh, a wee bit touchy there methinks.

So you are basically saying you have found the position to pay the least amount in taxes. Kudos.

And that place is Texas.

 
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« Reply #164 on: November 03, 2017, 01:27:46 am »
   'Lyin Ted' @KingsX  wtf does that have to do with the premise of your thought? Even Trumpers on a bad day can do better than that.

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Re: JUST IN: House releases new sweeping tax plan and here’s the details… [UPDATED WITH MORE]
« Reply #165 on: November 03, 2017, 01:29:08 am »
Quote from: Fantom on November 03, 2017, 01:09:20 am


https://www.thebalance.com/best-and-worst-states-for-property-taxes-3193328  Looks like Texas is 6th there.. behind many liberal/regressive States.



Quite ironic when Congressman Brady R-TX recently said he would
compromise with Democrats by allowing a state property tax deduction...
but not state income tax deduction. 

Do you see the irony?   Texas has high property tax but no income tax.


Kevin Brady bends to pressure and adds property tax break to House GOP plan

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/kevin-brady-bends-to-pressure-and-adds-property-tax-break-to-house-gop-plan/article/2638905




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« Reply #166 on: November 03, 2017, 01:30:27 am »
Quote from: corbe on November 03, 2017, 01:27:46 am
   'Lyin Ted' @KingsX  wtf does that have to do with the premise of your thought? Even Trumpers on a bad day can do better than that.



I so stole that img.
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Re: JUST IN: House releases new sweeping tax plan and here’s the details… [UPDATED WITH MORE]
« Reply #167 on: November 03, 2017, 01:30:36 am »
Quote from: KingsX on November 03, 2017, 01:17:23 am

You would feel right at home with the LYING GOP leadership.  Are you "Lying Ted" traveling incognito ??

For the upteenth time,  because I paid off my house and have no debts,  I am able to control my income to pay the least amount of taxes as possible.

Do you have a problem with reading comprehension ??

No, I just have a serious problem with Lying Liberals.  I'm funny that way.
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Re: JUST IN: House releases new sweeping tax plan and here’s the details… [UPDATED WITH MORE]
« Reply #168 on: November 03, 2017, 01:31:38 am »
Quote from: KingsX on November 03, 2017, 01:29:08 am

Quite ironic when Congressman Brady R-TX recently said he would
compromise with Democrats by allowing a state property tax deduction...
but not state income tax deduction. 

Do you see the irony?   Texas has high property tax but no income tax.


Kevin Brady bends to pressure and adds property tax break to House GOP plan

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/kevin-brady-bends-to-pressure-and-adds-property-tax-break-to-house-gop-plan/article/2638905

Then you should be happy.  This why I think you are a liar.
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Re: JUST IN: House releases new sweeping tax plan and here’s the details… [UPDATED WITH MORE]
« Reply #169 on: November 03, 2017, 01:33:08 am »
Quote from: KingsX on November 03, 2017, 01:29:08 am

Quite ironic when Congressman Brady R-TX recently said he would
compromise with Democrats by allowing a state property tax deduction...
but not state income tax deduction. 

Do you see the irony?   Texas has high property tax but no income tax.


Kevin Brady bends to pressure and adds property tax break to House GOP plan

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/kevin-brady-bends-to-pressure-and-adds-property-tax-break-to-house-gop-plan/article/2638905

Meh.. no irony, just interest of his constituents...like our founders envisioned.

If you hate high sales/property taxes.. there is always Hawaii.
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« Reply #170 on: November 03, 2017, 01:34:05 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on November 03, 2017, 01:30:36 am
No, I just have a serious problem with Lying Liberals.  I'm funny that way.


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« Reply #171 on: November 03, 2017, 01:34:16 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on November 03, 2017, 12:53:37 am
I call BS.  If you really believed that, then you would be rejoicing that the people giving government the most would be having that burden cut.  But you didn't.  Instead, you complained about it.  And because of that, I do not believe your statement above.  And I resent hearing you complain about a 12% tax rate as though you are being wronged with zero regard for those now paying double that.  You are a selfish self-serving class-envying leftist through and through.


I wish I only paid double the 12%  I pay triple that and with the AMT my deductions don’t matter.   I would like the rest of the country to pay tax at my rate for a year.   They might feel a lot different about taxes......
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« Reply #172 on: November 03, 2017, 01:35:59 am »
Quote from: Fantom on November 03, 2017, 01:34:05 am

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A belated Happy Birthday!  :beer:  backatcha!
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« Reply #173 on: November 03, 2017, 01:38:53 am »
Quote from: Mom MD on November 03, 2017, 01:34:16 am

I wish I only paid double the 12%  I pay triple that and with the AMT my deductions don’t matter.   I would like the rest of the country to pay tax at my rate for a year.   They might feel a lot different about taxes......

I run my own business... Even in Oklahoma ... I am fleeced.... mostly fed taxes...FICA/self employment. 40 + percent... then business insurances. If hillary had won, I was going black market for my services.
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« Reply #174 on: November 03, 2017, 01:39:54 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on November 03, 2017, 01:35:59 am
A belated Happy Birthday!  :beer:  backatcha!

Thanxs.  :beer:
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