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A Festival of Cruelty
« on: October 24, 2017, 05:11:07 pm »
Townhall
Paul Greenberg
Oct. 24, 2017

The phantom pilot who's tossed live turkeys from his airplane for 15 years now over the annual Turkey Trot Festival at Yellville, Ark., is a phantom no more. Now that he's been succeeded by a different pilot flying a different aircraft, he's proudly revealed his identity. He turns out to be Dana Woods, pharmacist and alderman from Mountain View.

"My plane is on the ground," Alderman Woods texted during the festival, playing the hero of this sad story rather than the villain he is. Naturally enough, he's offered a lame excuse for his (mis)behavior, mainly that his critics care more for birds than they do for people. He claims all these "bird-loving" types who've spoken up for the poor turkeys had nothing to say when a 4-year-old child was killed in the vicinity last November. His is an old and unconvincing rhetorical ploy that ought to fool no one.

More... https://townhall.com/columnists/paulgreenberg/2017/10/24/a-festival-of-cruelty-n2399274

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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2017, 05:11:42 pm »
I don't get what is the kick in watching this.

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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2017, 07:53:48 pm »
I don't get what is the kick in watching this.

Much ado about nothing.
As a rule, turkeys fly just fine. They may not be able to fly as high as where the plane is that drops them, but I bet they can glide it out alright.

Certainly they can stand a drop from a courthouse roof. They fly up into trees way higher than that around here.

I watched a couple vids about it that seemed to focus on the turkey getting tangled in power-lines, or landing in a creek (their legs are tied so they don't go too far), or getting hit by traffic... So by that complaint, they must not be plummeting to their deaths as a rule.

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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2017, 08:00:10 pm »
A Festival of Cruelty

I hate these titles that advertise one thing and then have nothing to do with it. This is what I expected....



And this is what I got.....




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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2017, 08:02:47 pm »
A Festival of Cruelty

I hate these titles that advertise one thing and then have nothing to do with it. This is what I expected....



And this is what I got.....



Cruelty is being served a turkey sandwich with cranberry sauce on it.

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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2017, 08:02:55 pm »
A Festival of Cruelty

I hate these titles that advertise one thing and then have nothing to do with it. This is what I expected....



Those boots were made for stalking.
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2017, 08:06:05 pm »
Cruelty is being served a turkey sandwich with cranberry sauce on it.

I wouldn't know. Turkey is poor people food.

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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2017, 08:09:27 pm »
I wouldn't know. Turkey is poor people food.

*You* have never priced an organic, free range turkey at Thanksgiving then.

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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2017, 08:12:13 pm »
PS  The gloves are cute and all, but she'll keep a better hold on that whip if she lost them.

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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2017, 08:16:31 pm »
*You* have never priced an organic, free range turkey at Thanksgiving then.

I don't celebrate Thanksgiving.....I'm Jewish.

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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2017, 08:17:27 pm »
PS  The gloves are cute and all, but she'll keep a better hold on that whip if she lost them.

You don't want to ruin a manicure slapping someone around.

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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2017, 08:18:43 pm »
I don't celebrate Thanksgiving.....I'm Jewish.

LOL  You got some splainin to do about that pork roll then.

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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2017, 08:19:17 pm »
You don't want to ruin a manicure slapping someone around.

Bastard will be in serious trouble if he ruins my mani.

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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2017, 08:21:37 pm »
Much ado about nothing.
As a rule, turkeys fly just fine. They may not be able to fly as high as where the plane is that drops them, but I bet they can glide it out alright.

Certainly they can stand a drop from a courthouse roof. They fly up into trees way higher than that around here.

I watched a couple vids about it that seemed to focus on the turkey getting tangled in power-lines, or landing in a creek (their legs are tied so they don't go too far), or getting hit by traffic... So by that complaint, they must not be plummeting to their deaths as a rule.

You're talking wild turkeys, right?  The domestic ones can't fly, to my knowledge.  Worse, they can't rut either.  Talk about one shitty life.
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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2017, 08:22:58 pm »
Bastard will be in serious trouble if he ruins my mani.

Oooh. Is there punishment for that?

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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2017, 08:25:39 pm »
You're talking wild turkeys, right?  The domestic ones can't fly, to my knowledge.  Worse, they can't rut either.  Talk about one shitty life.

Yes they can, unless their wings have been clipped since their last molt. And of course they can run - That's why they tie their legs.

Domestic turkeys raised free range are no different than wild, except that they go sleep in a coop at night.

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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2017, 08:28:36 pm »
Yes they can, unless their wings have been clipped since their last molt. And of course they can run - That's why they tie their legs.

Domestic turkeys raised free range are no different than wild, except that they go sleep in a coop at night.

Interesting.  I knew I should have taken that job on the local turkey farm in my youth.  Trouble is, I hated the little peckers.
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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2017, 08:29:55 pm »
Interesting.  I knew I should have taken that job on the local turkey farm in my youth.  Trouble is, I hated the little peckers.

Me too.

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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2017, 09:14:09 pm »
Me too.

Remind me to tell you sometime about my grandma's chickens, when I was a little boy....
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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2017, 09:17:27 pm »
Remind me to tell you sometime about my grandma's chickens, when I was a little boy....

Oh, I thought we were talking about...  nevermind.  Yes, tell me all about grandma's chickens.

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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2017, 09:39:29 pm »
Oh, I thought we were talking about...  nevermind.  Yes, tell me all about grandma's chickens.

LOL.  Later.  It's a wonderful tale of revenge and great country cooking.
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« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2017, 09:57:13 pm »
I see what you did there...

Well, I'm glad at least one person got my joke.  Hate it when a good one goes to waste.

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« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2017, 10:05:15 pm »
Well, I'm glad at least one person got my joke.  Hate it when a good one goes to waste.

Oh, I got it too, but with today's bouts with poetry from y'all, I was expecting something a little more high-brow....  :nometalk:
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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2017, 10:17:28 pm »
Oh, I got it too, but with today's bouts with poetry from y'all, I was expecting something a little more high-brow....  :nometalk:

Don't be silly.  Shakespeare is not high-brow. 

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« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2017, 10:31:37 pm »
Don't be silly.  Shakespeare is not high-brow.

No, but that 12-step chit you were posting about was.  Mine was just Macbeth.
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« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2017, 10:38:32 pm »
Don't be silly.  Shakespeare is not high-brow.

More of a Wadsworth gal?

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« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2017, 10:53:19 pm »
Indeed I am


Ooooh!  Shotgun Porn!  Marry me!  Take my money!
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« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2017, 10:56:47 pm »
Ooooh!  Shotgun Porn!  Marry me!  Take my money!

I know it sounds good on paper, but she isn't for lightweights. She has guns and knows how to use them for crying out loud!

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« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2017, 11:00:16 pm »
I know it sounds good on paper, but she isn't for lightweights. She has guns and knows how to use them for crying out loud!

Hey...I live in AZ.  'Nuff said.
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« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2017, 11:04:06 pm »
Hey...I live in AZ.  'Nuff said.

So you're mentally unstable. Gotcha!


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« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2017, 11:05:53 pm »
So you're mentally unstable. Gotcha!



Aw, Hell yeah, and armed to the teeth, too.  We have PLANTS that will jump on you and kill you.
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« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2017, 11:14:01 pm »
Ooooh!  Shotgun Porn!  Marry me!  Take my money!

I'm glad you answered first.  No telling what Frank would have thought those were.

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« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2017, 11:21:01 pm »
I'm glad you answered first.  No telling what Frank would have thought those were.

Now that is hilarious. Top Notch!

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« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2017, 11:20:03 pm »
Prime stuff, lol.

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« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2017, 11:24:37 pm »
Prime stuff, lol.

@Cyber Liberty never did tell us about his little pecker.

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« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2017, 11:31:41 pm »
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Alright girls. You raised a Zombie Thread just in time for Halloween. Aces!





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« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2017, 11:53:11 pm »
You're talking wild turkeys, right?  The domestic ones can't fly, to my knowledge.  Worse, they can't rut either.  Talk about one shitty life.
It's okay, they are too stupid to know what they are missing.
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« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2017, 11:55:46 pm »
Aw, Hell yeah, and armed to the teeth, too.  We have PLANTS that will jump on you and kill you.
Dem plants?
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« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2017, 11:55:51 pm »
A Festival of Cruelty

I hate these titles that advertise one thing and then have nothing to do with it. This is what I expected....



And this is what I got.....



@Frank Cannon Forgot to mention earlier how much I like her spurs.  The need for them always pops up in the most unexpected places.

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« Reply #41 on: October 31, 2017, 12:03:23 am »
@Frank Cannon Forgot to mention earlier how much I like her spurs.  The need for them always pops up in the most unexpected places.

Well I really like a woman who is prepared for anything. It shows initiative.

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« Reply #42 on: October 31, 2017, 07:44:57 am »
Yes they can, unless their wings have been clipped since their last molt. And of course they can run - That's why they tie their legs.

Domestic turkeys raised free range are no different than wild, except that they go sleep in a coop at night.

The ones I raised (free range before we knew what free range was) couldn't fly.  They could eat and that was about it. 

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« Reply #44 on: October 31, 2017, 09:48:30 am »
The ones I raised (free range before we knew what free range was) couldn't fly.  They could eat and that was about it.

Well,, they sure do here - not well, mind you, like any turkey, but well enough to get up into the trees to roost... Oh, maybe that's the difference - trees   :tongue2:

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« Reply #45 on: October 31, 2017, 09:56:17 am »
Well,, they sure do here - not well, mind you, like any turkey, but well enough to get up into the trees to roost... Oh, maybe that's the difference - trees   :tongue2:

We've got trees.  Big ones.  I live in a little forest.  If I still had photobucket, I'd post you a picture to prove it.

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« Reply #46 on: October 31, 2017, 10:19:16 am »
Well,, they sure do here - not well, mind you, like any turkey, but well enough to get up into the trees to roost... Oh, maybe that's the difference - trees   :tongue2:
That's because the ones that can't fly up into trees to roost were coyote bait a long time ago.
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« Reply #47 on: October 31, 2017, 11:26:04 am »
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« Reply #48 on: October 31, 2017, 11:32:14 am »
We've got trees.  Big ones.  I live in a little forest.  If I still had photobucket, I'd post you a picture to prove it.

I dunno what to tell you - Maybe it is predator pressure like @Smokin Joe  said, maybe it is a difference in selection in breeds here vs there... but turkeys are not uncommon here, domestic or wild, and providing that they are range birds, there isn't much different. It is not uncommon to see a domestic turkey a story or two up in the pines, roosted just like a wild one.  :shrug:

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« Reply #49 on: October 31, 2017, 11:34:11 am »
I can't believe it took 7 days and 43 posts for someone to mention WKRP and/or Les Nessman...   :thud:

Yes, but when it happened it was done right, complete with a YouTube.

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