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Where have all the insects gone?
« on: October 19, 2017, 01:21:29 pm »

Where have all the insects gone?

By Gretchen VogelMay. 10, 2017 , 9:00 AM

Entomologists call it the windshield phenomenon. "If you talk to people, they have a gut feeling. They remember how insects used to smash on your windscreen," says Wolfgang Wägele, director of the Leibniz Institute for Animal Biodiversity in Bonn, Germany. Today, drivers spend less time scraping and scrubbing. "I'm a very data-driven person," says Scott Black, executive director of the Xerces Society for Invertebrate Conservation in Portland, Oregon. "But it is a visceral reaction when you realize you don't see that mess anymore."

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/05/where-have-all-insects-gone

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Re: Where have all the insects gone?
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2017, 01:30:44 pm »
I have plenty of squashed bugs on my windscreen. If someone could just get rid of stinkbugs, I'd happily deal with the rest of the insect world.
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Re: Where have all the insects gone?
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2017, 01:37:17 pm »
Where have all the insects gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the insects gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the insects gone?
Young girls picked them, every one
When will they ever learn?
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Re: Where have all the insects gone?
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2017, 01:37:24 pm »
I had that mess all summer. Sounds like more govt grant created mythology to generate global warming psyops.
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Re: Where have all the insects gone?
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2017, 02:05:02 pm »
I can tell you that now we're at the end of our wet season for the year, the mosquito population has flourished here and I'm guess in Texas as well.

It did seem like the early love bug season was pretty light though.

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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2017, 02:14:59 pm »
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Re: Where have all the insects gone?
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2017, 02:16:10 pm »
Im not missing them here. I went to Caddo lake a few weeks ago and the front of my car was a black mess with smashed love bugs. I think Ive seen more insects this year than the past several combined.

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Re: Where have all the insects gone?
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2017, 02:33:52 pm »
Get out of the concrete jungle and drive a few miles in the country, and I promise you'll see plenty of bugs on your windshield. 
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Re: Where have all the insects gone?
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2017, 02:53:02 pm »
Slope.

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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2017, 02:56:05 pm »
Wait, the envirokooks are worried about insects disappearing now? Who cares where they went and whereever they are, let's hope they don't find their way back.

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Re: Where have all the insects gone?
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2017, 03:13:55 pm »
Get out of the concrete jungle and drive a few miles in the country, and I promise you'll see plenty of bugs on your windshield.

“Some days you're the Windshield and some days you're the bug!”

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Re: Where have all the insects gone?
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2017, 03:15:48 pm »
“Some days you're the Windshield and some days you're the bug!”

Lately life is the windshield and I'm the bug.

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Re: Where have all the insects gone?
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2017, 03:29:57 pm »
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Re: Where have all the insects gone?
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2017, 03:39:16 pm »
Aerodynamics. Bugs slip over now. My old 1970 International Harvester pickup would catch every snowflake that fell on the windshield. I replaced it with an 84 Toyota pickup that winter and was amazed to drive thru snowfall unscathed.

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Re: Where have all the insects gone?
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2017, 04:05:48 pm »
Might be that today's cars are more aerodynamic than they used to be.

The buggies get flown over the car instead of smashed on the windshield.

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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2017, 04:12:06 pm »
Aerodynamics. Bugs slip over now. My old 1970 International Harvester pickup would catch every snowflake that fell on the windshield. I replaced it with an 84 Toyota pickup that winter and was amazed to drive thru snowfall unscathed.

I hate that when somebody beats me to the idea!  :laugh:




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Re: Where have all the insects gone?
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2017, 05:34:58 pm »

Slope of the windshield.

Thanks.  I thought I missed a graph somewhere.

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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2017, 05:36:27 pm »
I hate that when somebody beats me to the idea!  :laugh:
So yell at Toyota,  not me, :silly:

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Re: Where have all the insects gone?
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2017, 05:46:29 pm »
More than 75 percent decline over 27 years in total flying insect biomass in protected areas

Caspar A. Hallmann, et al.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0185809

Hallmann CA, Sorg M, Jongejans E, Siepel H, Hofland N, Schwan H, et al. (2017) More than 75 percent decline over 27 years in total flying insect biomass in protected areas. PLoS ONE 12(10): e0185809. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0185809

Abstract:

Global declines in insects have sparked wide interest among scientists, politicians, and the general public. Loss of insect diversity and abundance is expected to provoke cascading effects on food webs and to jeopardize ecosystem services. Our understanding of the extent and underlying causes of this decline is based on the abundance of single species or taxonomic groups only, rather than changes in insect biomass which is more relevant for ecological functioning. Here, we used a standardized protocol to measure total insect biomass using Malaise traps, deployed over 27 years in 63 nature protection areas in Germany (96 unique location-year combinations) to infer on the status and trend of local entomofauna. Our analysis estimates a seasonal decline of 76%, and mid-summer decline of 82% in flying insect biomass over the 27 years of study. We show that this decline is apparent regardless of habitat type, while changes in weather, land use, and habitat characteristics cannot explain this overall decline. This yet unrecognized loss of insect biomass must be taken into account in evaluating declines in abundance of species depending on insects as a food source, and ecosystem functioning in the European landscape.


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Re: Where have all the insects gone?
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2017, 05:55:29 pm »
Maybe bugs are evolving. Their survival instincts now include staying away from moving cars.
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Re: Where have all the insects gone?
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2017, 06:09:48 pm »
Maybe bugs are evolving. Their survival instincts now include staying away from moving cars.

And, malaise traps.

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Re: Where have all the insects gone?
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2017, 01:17:50 am »
It's all that carbon dioxide.
The insects are very sensitive to it.
They can't take it...   (hey... it's as good a guess as anyone's)

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Re: Where have all the insects gone?
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2017, 01:10:32 pm »
I had that mess all summer. Sounds like more govt grant created mythology to generate global warming psyops.

Yep. They can come to my place in rural Illinoisy and find all the bugs they want to, especially mosquitoes.......