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NFL Players Kneel During National Anthem in London
« on: September 24, 2017, 09:51:33 am »
NFL Players Kneel During National Anthem in London
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2017, 09:51:53 am »
But they stood for the British National Anthem.

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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2017, 09:57:49 am »
Jaguars, Ravens kneel and lock arms during national anthem in London
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In front of a massive crowd in Wembley, the Jaguars and Ravens didn’t let not playing in the United States stop them from being courageous. As the “Star-Spangled Banner” was played, the Jacksonville and Baltimore players both kneeled and locked arms to show their unity as a team and as NFL players.

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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2017, 09:57:59 am »
The players are really screwing the owners with this childish stuff.
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2017, 10:03:13 am »
The players are really screwing the owners with this childish stuff.
They are screwing themselves.

When owners don't make enough money, the teams fold, then the players have no jobs, so these imbeciles will go back to what their true calling is, flipping burgers.
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2017, 10:04:11 am »
The players are really screwing the owners with this childish stuff.
The real travesty is the owners are now supporting their kids stuff.
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Re: NFL Players Kneel During National Anthem in London
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2017, 10:04:36 am »
What they hell are these uneducated, spoiled, multi-millionaires protesting? 

And are these jackasses too stupid to know that kneeling is a sign of reverence?

I hope the "fans" stay home and stop paying for this insult.






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Re: NFL Players Kneel During National Anthem in London
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2017, 10:07:32 am »
Watch: Baltimore Ravens and Jacksonville Jaguars players kneel during anthem after Trump criticism
by Kyle Feldscher | Sep 24, 2017, 9:40 AM

NFL players responded to President Trump's criticisms of players protesting police brutality by taking a knee during the national anthem by kneeling en masse Sunday morning.

The opening of the NFL Sunday slate of games took place Sunday morning in London, and many players from both the Baltimore Ravens and the Jacksonville Jaguars took a knee during the playing of "The Star-Spangled Banner."

Reports indicate players from both teams all stood during "God Save the Queen," the British national anthem, which played immediately after "The Star-Spangled Banner."


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Re: NFL Players Kneel During National Anthem in London
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2017, 10:12:00 am »
NFL Players Kneel During National Anthem in London
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Re: NFL Players Kneel During National Anthem in London
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2017, 10:12:05 am »
Pathetic POS. Doing on foreign soil while Americans are dying in Muslim attacks n the streets and subways o& that country.
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Re: NFL Players Kneel During National Anthem in London
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2017, 10:20:46 am »
Clearly they have a right to express their feelings; but this is also clearly a sign of anti-patriotism and is setting an extremely poor example for our youth.  To disrespect our country because you don't like who is our president, (who by the way won the election) shows liberal midget mentality at its lowest point.  Football players are overpaid and way overrated and the majority should be put into Hillary's basket of deplorables.  Sorry folks, but race seems to factor into this as well.

Ravens, Jaguars players kneel during national anthem after Trump's attacks on NFL

Dozens of NFL players for the Baltimore Ravens and Jacksonville Jaguars showed a unified front on Sunday and kneeled as the national anthem played during the start of their game in London, defying President Trump’s attacks on the league's athletes.

Those who were not kneeling, including the coaches on both teams and Jaguars owner Shahid Khan, locked arms during the national anthem at the game in London’s Wembley Stadium. The Jaguars tweeted a photo of the defiant message shortly after with the caption: “Unity.” The players then stood up for “God Save the Queen,” the British anthem.

The display marked a tumultuous weekend between the NFL and Trump, who called the players kneeling during "The Star-Spangled Banner" disrespectful.

“If NFL fans refuse to go to games until players stop disrespecting our Flag & Country, you will see change take place fast,” Trump tweeted Sunday morning. "Fire or suspend!”

He followed it up shortly after, tweeting: "...NFL attendance and ratings are WAY DOWN. Boring games yes, but many stay away because they love our country. League should back U.S."

His criticism began on Friday during a political rally in Alabama when he called for players to be fired who disrespect the American flag.

"Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say 'get that son of a b ---- off the field right now? He's fired,'" Trump said to the crowd.....

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2017/09/24/ravens-jaguars-players-kneel-during-national-anthem-after-trumps-attacks-on-nfl.html
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Re: NFL Players Kneel During National Anthem in London
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2017, 10:25:46 am »
But they all stood for "God Save the Queen"


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Re: NFL Players Kneel During National Anthem in London
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2017, 10:28:41 am »
And are these jackasses too stupid to know that kneeling is a sign of reverence?


Exactly. I had the same thought. All over the world, especially in Britain, kneeling is an overt sign of reverence and deference. I would think that a huge number of Europeans thought this behavior was a completely normal display of respect and deference to the flag.


Of course, the average football player has the intelligence of a 10 year old, so it is to be expected that they would not know this common bit of trivia.
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« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2017, 10:28:56 am »
The players are really screwing the owners with this childish stuff.


...Jaguars owner Shahid Khan...

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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2017, 10:30:18 am »
Really? Disrespect our country in a foreign land? That is inexcusable, the wife beating NFL has reached a new low.

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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2017, 10:34:01 am »
Soooooo... let's get this straight...

They are kneeling to protest the national anthem of the country that sent 2% of their population to die in a war to end slavery? A war which team Star Spangled Banner won?

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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2017, 10:34:57 am »
But they all stood for "God Save the Queen"

If I cared about pro football in the first place... after these pathetic displays I would be dying to quit watching.

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I doubt the 10s of thousands of jihadist who live in London are 'allowed' to watch sports because of some bullshit Sharia Law reason. Allah hates fun of any kind. But, surly the terrorists all over the world, including in North Korea, must be laughing their heads off at these fools disrespecting the very country which is saving their asses from annihilation.   
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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2017, 10:38:41 am »
But they all stood for "God Save the Queen"
Perhaps they thought it was going to be the Sex Pistols' version.

But seriously: the NFL cannot understand why their audience is in steep decline?

Fans of professional football in the U.S. do not tend to be Progressive social justice warriors, to say the least.  It is, as if at the start of a NASCAR race, half the drivers slowed their cars and unfurled "Black Lives Matter" banners from their windows. It would piss off the audience more than a little bit.
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« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2017, 10:39:30 am »
I get the players' point. They certainly have the right under our constitution to protest. However, your right to do something does not inoculate you from potential consequences. They obviously did this in defiance of Trump. However, the people that cannot stand Trump the most are not generally the fanbase of sports, anyway.   We'll see how this affects attendance and readings over the next few weeks. 
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« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2017, 10:41:29 am »
anybody know the contact email to give Goodell some protest back to him?
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I get the players' point. They certainly have the right under our constitution to protest. However, your right to do something does not inoculate you from potential consequences. They obviously did this in defiance of Trump. However, the people that cannot stand Trump the most are not generally the fanbase of sports, anyway.   We'll see how this affects attendance and readings over the next few weeks.

I assume that when an organization chooses to become political they understand that they automatically alienate around half their customers.

THIS is what I don't understand about all of this crap. What difference do they think they can make? Its only a primal scream., and a self destructive one at that.

Has everyone gone nucking futz?
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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2017, 10:53:25 am »
Has everyone gone nucking futz?

It would seem to me a lot of people have become incredibly self-important, which is its own kind of crazy.  I'm betting this will have an impact on the league financially – it's just a matter of how much.
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« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2017, 10:55:18 am »
THIS is what I don't understand about all of this crap. What difference do they think they can make? Its only a primal scream., and a self destructive one at that.

Look at history and see how many changes started with small actions.
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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2017, 10:59:16 am »
Look at history and see how many changes started with small actions.

I realize that, its the nature of the change I'm asking about.

We know they'll destroy their franchise. What other changes are they after? The reversal of a free and fair election?

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« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2017, 11:05:51 am »
I assume that when an organization chooses to become political they understand that they automatically alienate around half their customers.

THIS is what I don't understand about all of this crap. What difference do they think they can make? Its only a primal scream., and a self destructive one at that.

Has everyone gone nucking futz?


Its all bread and circuses.  Created controversy to polarize and get people at each others throats. This is the entertainment industry after all. They are playing their roles just like WWE wrasslers. Good guys, bad guys, and fans screaming and taking sides.

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Jaguars owner who locked arms with players donated $1 million to Trump inaguration

By Brandon Carter - 09/24/17 10:37 AM EDT
   

Shad Khan, the billionaire owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars who locked arms with players in solidarity as the national anthem played before their Sunday game, previously donated to President Trump’s inauguration.

Standing with the players puts Khan in apparent opposition to Trump, who this weekend attacked NFL players for failing to show enough respect for the national anthem.

Federal Election Commission (FEC) forms released after Trump’s inauguration in April show Khan donated $1 million to Trump’s inaugural committee.

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I realize that, its the nature of the change I'm asking about.

We know they'll destroy their franchise. What other changes are they after? The reversal of a free and fair election?

Their ultimate goal is to eliminate elections period.
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« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2017, 11:14:03 am »
And in top of it the Jags owner joined with his team to take a knee.

If Goodell had a spine he'd fine both teams and the J'ville owner personally for this grandstanding BS.
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« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2017, 11:15:43 am »
They made their choice, I've made mine....No more NFL.

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« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2017, 11:18:46 am »
And in top of it the Jags owner joined with his team to take a knee.

If Goodell had a spine he'd fine both teams and the J'ville owner personally for this grandstanding BS.

This was in Jolly Olde so Goodell probably couldn't if he wanted to.

What was the audience reaction to the kneeling, arm-locking stunt? Did anyone catch that reaction, unfiltered?




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« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2017, 11:19:23 am »
I find it ironic that the one professional sports league that is composed almost entirely of American citizens is that one that is the most disrespectful to the flag.

Major League Baseball has a lot of Latin and Asian players
The NBA has a lot of players from Europe
And the NHL is primarily players from Canada and Russia

Yet they show more respect for our flag than these NFL punks do.
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« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2017, 11:19:35 am »
They made their choice, I've made mine....No more NFL.

You aren't alone. They are bleeding money...viewers and attendance at games since this crap started last year.

They chose to become political...and like ESPN...they are paying a heavy price for their activism.
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« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2017, 11:21:06 am »
It's really difficult to buy into the notion the country is racist from a bunch of millionaires playing a sport for a living who generally get slaps on the wrist when they're caught doing something wrong.
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« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2017, 11:21:51 am »
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« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2017, 11:31:39 am »
This happening overseas makes it even worse. No different than when the Dixie Chicks bashed the President in London.

Didn't see the crowd reaction.  Not sure if most of them realized what it meant.

Jacksonville is a military town. If I were the base commander I'd start turning down request for fly over and color guards for Jags home games.
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« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2017, 11:40:24 am »
This happening overseas makes it even worse. No different than when the Dixie Chicks bashed the President in London.

Didn't see the crowd reaction.  Not sure if most of them realized what it meant.

Jacksonville is a military town. If I were the base commander I'd start turning down request for fly over and color guards for Jags home games.

I think a lot of folks in Jacksonville this morning are thinking the team can stay in London for good, for all they care.

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« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2017, 11:47:22 am »
I think a lot of folks in Jacksonville this morning are thinking the team can stay in London for good, for all they care.

The fact they even got the team was a joke in the first place.  Both Carolina and Jacksonville were a disorganized mess in the expansion bid.  Baltimore had earmarked money from their state lottery for 14 years after the Colts left.  They also had Memorial Stadium to use, until the new one was completed.  Roselle and Cooke (then Redskins owner) colluded to keep a team from being brought back so close to D.C.
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Re: NFL Players Kneel During National Anthem in London
« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2017, 11:52:47 am »
Jacksonville is a military town. If I were the base commander I'd start turning down request for fly over and color guards for Jags home games.


See this:  Reminder: Obama Paid the NFL Millions to Be Patriotic http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=282628.new#new

McCain and Graham must be outraged.



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Re: NFL Players Kneel During National Anthem in London
« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2017, 11:59:57 am »


I'm kinda the last guy about all three.

Now Mike Tomlin has announced the Steelers will stay in the locker room during the Anthem.

Just gives me another reason to hate that team.
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Re: NFL Players Kneel During National Anthem in London
« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2017, 12:01:15 pm »
I'm kinda the last guy about all three.

Now Mike Tomlin has announced the Steelers will stay in the locker room during the Anthem.

Just gives me another reason to hate that team.

These are all characters playing a role. They are getting the exact reaction they want. IMHO, this is like getting angry and screaming at the TV over what someone does on a soap opera or who wins the latest dancing with duck bachelor shoes.

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Re: NFL Players Kneel During National Anthem in London
« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2017, 12:12:23 pm »
These are all characters playing a role. They are getting the exact reaction they want. IMHO, this is like getting angry and screaming at the TV over what someone does on a soap opera or who wins the latest dancing with duck bachelor shoes.

I guess the proof of that will come when we see if folks continue to buy their products.

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Re: NFL Players Kneel During National Anthem in London
« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2017, 12:21:20 pm »
anybody know the contact email to give Goodell some protest back to him?
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Re: NFL Players Kneel During National Anthem in London
« Reply #49 on: September 24, 2017, 12:24:42 pm »
I'm kinda the last guy about all three.

Now Mike Tomlin has announced the Steelers will stay in the locker room during the Anthem.

Just gives me another reason to hate that team.
Me thinks there is a rule that teams must be on the field so many minutes before kickoff, hence the rundown clock.
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"Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.� ? Euripides, The Bacchae
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"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.� ? Bertrand Russell, A History of Western Philosophy