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Re: Trump’s Justice Department Lets Lois Lerner Off The Hook
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2017, 12:01:50 am »
Remember when most took Trump to the woodshed for trying to manage Sessions and speaking openly about his disappointment?  Was that a lie and just an excuse to dump on the President?

Because it sure sounds like the President is now supposed to micromanage the AG and is responsible for the decisions Justice makes.   But is this a lie and just an excuse to dump on the President?

It's so damn hard to know where the real lie is.   :pondering:

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Re: Trump’s Justice Department Lets Lois Lerner Off The Hook
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2017, 12:10:39 am »
   I was front line screaming that the AG works for US not Trump when the news reported last month that Trump wanted to fire him but unfortunately now Sessions has done something that I disapprove of and I automatically assume somehow Trump is involved, so yea, I'm prejudiced, sue me. @Right_in_Virginia
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Re: Trump’s Justice Department Lets Lois Lerner Off The Hook
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2017, 12:13:41 am »
Finally! An AG who is really going to kick ***! He's taking names alrightie.  This swamp cannot be drained.

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Re: Trump’s Justice Department Lets Lois Lerner Off The Hook
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2017, 12:15:37 am »

It's so damn hard to know where the real lie is.   :pondering:

The real lie is that anyone or anything in Washington D.C. works for you!
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Re: Trump’s Justice Department Lets Lois Lerner Off The Hook
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2017, 12:37:48 am »
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Republicans asked the agency in April to take a “fresh look” at the case against Lerner. On Friday, Assistant Attorney General Stephen Boyd responded by saying President Trump reviewed the case and decided against it.

https://www.redstate.com/jimjamitis/2017/09/08/trump-gives-lois-lerner-free-pass-despite-past-outrage-irs-targeting/
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Re: Trump’s Justice Department Lets Lois Lerner Off The Hook
« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2017, 01:00:44 am »
Sessions doesn't take orders from the President.  The AG has made this abundantly clear several times.

Previously this made the forum damn happy.

BS....they all take orders from the president.
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Re: Trump’s Justice Department Lets Lois Lerner Off The Hook
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2017, 01:08:13 am »
BS....they all take orders from the president.

Then what was that dustup between the President and Sessions all about?  If memory holds, the President was quite displeased that the AG wasn't draining the swamp at Justice or going after leakers.  Haven't heard of any changes at Justice and there have been no updates on the leak investigations.  Seems to me Sessions has blown off the President and is running Justice as he sees fit.

Most here felt the AG was and should be independent.

What do you think happened with Lois Lerner @mystery-ak   

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Re: Trump’s Justice Department Lets Lois Lerner Off The Hook
« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2017, 01:53:19 am »
Then what was that dustup between the President and Sessions all about?  If memory holds, the President was quite displeased that the AG wasn't draining the swamp at Justice or going after leakers.  Haven't heard of any changes at Justice and there have been no updates on the leak investigations.  Seems to me Sessions has blown off the President and is running Justice as he sees fit.

Most here felt the AG was and should be independent.

What do you think happened with Lois Lerner @mystery-ak

Well, per the quote that Corbe just posted above:

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Republicans asked the agency in April to take a “fresh look” at the case against Lerner. On Friday, Assistant Attorney General Stephen Boyd responded by saying President Trump reviewed the case and decided against it.

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Re: Trump’s Justice Department Lets Lois Lerner Off The Hook
« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2017, 02:01:33 am »
So when are the resident forum mental midgets going to show up and try to blame Mconnell, Ryan, and all the other boogeymen?

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« Reply #34 on: September 09, 2017, 02:03:16 am »
So when are the resident forum mental midgets going to show up and try to blame Mconnell, Ryan, and all the other boogeymen?

Looks like they've retreated to blaming Sessions (scroll up)

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Re: Trump’s Justice Department Lets Lois Lerner Off The Hook
« Reply #35 on: September 09, 2017, 02:18:05 am »
Finally! An AG who is really going to kick ***! He's taking names alrightie.  This swamp cannot be drained.

Sure it can. It;s just going to take an actual Conservative president, and an actually conservative Congress... Including leadership. That's all it needs.

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Re: Trump’s Justice Department Lets Lois Lerner Off The Hook
« Reply #36 on: September 09, 2017, 02:30:35 am »
BS....they all take orders from the president.

Truth.  How long should we make excuses?
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Re: Trump’s Justice Department Lets Lois Lerner Off The Hook
« Reply #37 on: September 09, 2017, 03:07:48 am »
Truth.  How long should we make excuses?
Until every American bows and confesses with their mouth that Trump is our savior and is a genius and is smarter than god - being able to play 16th dimensional chess and do MAGA!  Even when he is handing the Democrats what they demand.

All of the country must genuflect Trump.  Until then, excuses will be made in ever-increasing levels of absurdity.
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Re: Trump’s Justice Department Lets Lois Lerner Off The Hook
« Reply #38 on: September 09, 2017, 03:56:35 am »
Until every American bows and confesses with their mouth that Trump is our savior and is a genius and is smarter than god - being able to play 16th dimensional chess and do MAGA!  Even when he is handing the Democrats what they demand.

All of the country must genuflect Trump.  Until then, excuses will be made in ever-increasing levels of absurdity.

This- Until then, excuses will be made in ever-increasing levels of absurdity

Count on it. 
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: Trump’s Justice Department Lets Lois Lerner Off The Hook
« Reply #39 on: September 09, 2017, 04:58:49 am »
I'd like to say I am shocked, but I am not.
I wonder what they are afraid of?
The IRS must have more on the administration, and its appointees, than we are aware of, and they are afraid of it being revealed.

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Re: Trump’s Justice Department Lets Lois Lerner Off The Hook
« Reply #40 on: September 09, 2017, 01:04:27 pm »
I'd like to say I am shocked, but I am not.
I wonder what they are afraid of?
The IRS must have more on the administration, and its appointees, than we are aware of, and they are afraid of it being revealed.

We know for sure they have Trump's tax returns don't we.
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Re: Trump’s Justice Department Lets Lois Lerner Off The Hook
« Reply #41 on: September 09, 2017, 01:13:58 pm »
Another Trump lie exposed.
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Re: Trump’s Justice Department Lets Lois Lerner Off The Hook
« Reply #42 on: September 09, 2017, 01:30:43 pm »
Looks like they've retreated to blaming Sessions (scroll up)

Maybe a little more information will help control the snarky knee jerks @BassWrangler ...

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Jeff Sessions’ DoJ Will Not Investigate IRS Suppression of Tea Party Groups
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But the September 8 letter from the Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ Justice Department said it would not even reopen the investigation because officials require “proof beyond a reasonable doubt that a government employee intentionally discriminated against an applicant for a tax-exempt status based on viewpoint.”

Prior investigations had found mismanagement that disproportionately hurt conservative groups, and the recently appointed department officials reviewed the new reports and concluded that  “reopening the criminal investigation would not be appropriate based on the available evidence,” said the Friday letter from Assistant Attorney General Stephen Boyd.

That answer was a response to an April 12 letter from the two GOP leaders on the tax committee, which included more information about Lerner’s activities, and a request that the department “take a fresh look at the evidence presented in the attached referral.” The referral is provided here.

“I have the utmost respect for Attorney General Sessions, but I’m troubled by his Department’s lack of action to fully respond to our request and deliver accountability,” Bray said in his Friday statement. “Today’s decision does not mean Lois Lerner is innocent. It means the justice system in Washington is deeply flawed.”


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/08/jeff-sessions-doj-will-not-investigate-irs-suppression-tea-party-groups/

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Re: Trump’s Justice Department Lets Lois Lerner Off The Hook
« Reply #43 on: September 09, 2017, 02:04:32 pm »
Maybe a little more information will help control the snarky knee jerks @BassWrangler ...

The swamp had Sessions' back and now he has theirs.

The president can have Session's resignation on his desk tomorrow if he wants it!  He doesn't!
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Re: Trump’s Justice Department Lets Lois Lerner Off The Hook
« Reply #44 on: September 09, 2017, 02:19:45 pm »
The president can have Session's resignation on his desk tomorrow if he wants it!  He doesn't!


   Not this week anyway, let's see how this Mueller thing shakes out before we start discussing Sessions long term employment opportunities.
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« Reply #45 on: September 09, 2017, 03:48:06 pm »
Maybe a little more information will help control the snarky knee jerks @BassWrangler ...

The swamp had Sessions' back and now he has theirs.

And who appointed sessions? That's right, the orange clown. You can't escape accountability for this one. You tools that elected this clown own this mess, 100%.

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« Reply #46 on: September 09, 2017, 03:49:59 pm »
And who appointed sessions? That's right, the orange clown. You can't escape accountability for this one. You tools that elected this clown own this mess, 100%.

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« Reply #47 on: September 09, 2017, 03:51:01 pm »
Until every American bows and confesses with their mouth that Trump is our savior and is a genius and is smarter than god - being able to play 16th dimensional chess and do MAGA!  Even when he is handing the Democrats what they demand.

All of the country must genuflect Trump.  Until then, excuses will be made in ever-increasing levels of absurdity.

@INVAR

Exactly! And as the excuses get more and more absurd, increasing numbers of them will go silent.

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Re: Trump’s Justice Department Lets Lois Lerner Off The Hook
« Reply #48 on: September 09, 2017, 04:02:40 pm »
Well, the usual boring TDS guys are having a parade over this. And that's fine. Many pro-Trump people are upset over this, as are many member of Congress and government agencies.


Trump has already openly expressed his opinion of Sessions, and it was far from expressing approval.


The only saving grace of this travesty is that DOJ did not shut the door completely. All he said was, 'pending more evidence'. So, Lerner can see sunshine, but she's not completely out of the woods yet. We shall see.
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« Reply #49 on: September 09, 2017, 04:48:40 pm »
Well, the usual boring TDS guys are having a parade over this. And that's fine. Many pro-Trump people are upset over this, as are many member of Congress and government agencies.


Trump has already openly expressed his opinion of Sessions, and it was far from expressing approval.


The only saving grace of this travesty is that DOJ did not shut the door completely. All he said was, 'pending more evidence'. So, Lerner can see sunshine, but she's completely out of the woods yet. We shall see.

It's also possible that isn't a conspiracy here ; that there is just not enough evidence to mount a credible case against Lerner. I mean we all know she's guilty, but the Obamites have circled the wagons, and it's tough to go after her unless one of them is willing to testify.