Hurricane Harvey Public Advisory

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

A few years ago, my car was actually caught in a flood... I open the car door and water flowed in over the door onto the floor. Not a fun experience.

[Elderberry]

A few years ago, my car was actually caught in a flood... I open the car door and water flowed in over the door onto the floor. Not a fun experience.

I drove thru some of the flooding during Claudette in my 68 Chevy PU. I had previously sealed the ignition with silicone grease. The water filled up in the cab up to the trans hump. Water was burbling up onto the hood. I slipped the clutch like crazy to keep my R's up to keep the water from choking off the exhaust. I had to drive it bare footed with my pants legs rolled up.

[musiclady]

@CatherineofAragon
@mystery-ak

Joel Osteen, (and I say the faker supposed evangelist) at his Lakewood church in Houston that can hold 16,000 people won't open the church to those who need shelter. I hope no one gives him another penny. 

His spokesman says, "It's not our unwillingness, it's just practicality. It's been a safety issue for us.  Lakewood Church has a heart for this city.  The church would collect baby food and formula, and both baby and adult diapers for the city on Tuesday, and that the church would host people displaced by the storm once other shelters fill to capacity. He did not immediately respond to a request for comment."

The truth is, this so called pastor doesn't want his pretty church messed up with wet people fleeing for their lives.  Just wait, his next sermon will be his crying for the poor people flooded out.  A pox on him.

@Victoria33 

I heard this and was sickened by it.

My guess is that, with his false "prosperity gospel" he doesn't think that anyone worth saving is ever in need because they're guaranteed all good things with his phony theology.

That, plus the fact that he doesn't want the trouble or the cleaning bill.

Absolutely disgusting..

[musiclady]

Damn.

Yeah.......   

[Smokin Joe]

I live off Route 16 just north of town. We have 13 acres and are about a mile in from the river. We have a huge population of blackbuck antelope and axis deer- escapees from the game ranches-that are taking habitat from whitetail. Lots of wild turkey as well.

Take care.

Not much for antelope, but are axis deer good eating?

[Smokin Joe]

I've been in one flood and had to wade through the water waist deep.

Around Yellowstone one year,  they had a big snow melt or something. It was unreal, the water came up above tall pines in low lying areas.

I was in Grand Forks in '79 (third highest crest, ever, though it took the flood of '93 to get them to make infrastructure permanent). I had a lab student who was a pilot, and somewhere around here I have a slide of water with an I-29 interchange (overpass), more water, another interchange, etc. that I took from the air.

My heart and prayers go out to y'all down there, floods are no fun.

[mystery-ak]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/348414-osteen-opens-doors-of-megachurch-to-flooding-victims-after

Pastor Joel Osteen opens megachurch to flooding victims after criticism

[Elderberry]

[Smokin Joe]

I drove thru some of the flooding during Claudette in my 68 Chevy PU. I had previously sealed the ignition with silicone grease. The water filled up in the cab up to the trans hump. Water was burbling up onto the hood. I slipped the clutch like crazy to keep my R's up to keep the water from choking off the exhaust. I had to drive it bare footed with my pants legs rolled up.

I drove down  a back street in Grand Forks in '79 in my Dodge Coronet, and as the water got deeper, I drove more slowly until I came up behind a barricade. Those guys chewed me out until  I pointed out there was no barricade at the other end of that very long street. When I opened the door, water ran out...but for the most part I maintained cabin integrity. The high water mark on the outside was almost to the door handles.

[Smokin Joe]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/348414-osteen-opens-doors-of-megachurch-to-flooding-victims-after

Pastor Joel Osteen opens megachurch to flooding victims after criticism

Luke 17:3

Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

Good enough.

[catfish1957]

Crap...  is that a newer storm projection?  Last one had Cameron as landfall and a more NE than NNE progression.  This track just exaberates the flooding in SE Texas

[Smokin Joe]

Crap...  is that a newer storm projection?  Last one had Cameron as landfall and a more NE than NNE progression.  This track just exaberates the flooding in SE Texas

Yep, it looks like the center has shifted its track northward, rather than NE.

[Elderberry]

Crap...  is that a newer storm projection?  Last one had Cameron as landfall and a more NE than NNE progression.  This track just exaberates the flooding in SE Texas

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT4+shtml/291750.shtml

[thackney]

Just my 2 cents...but if you have to move someone in a wheel chair...better to do it when you think you have to and have an escape route...rather than when you have to move and the route is under water.

But hopefully it won't come to any of that.

Exactly.  Water over the road out about 3" now.  No problem with our 4x4 but tomorrow maybe be 2 ft.

We got him into a nursing home.  My wife and I will figure something out, maybe go volunteer at the church and beg a spot to sleep.

[musiclady]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/348414-osteen-opens-doors-of-megachurch-to-flooding-victims-after

Pastor Joel Osteen opens megachurch to flooding victims after criticism

Not likely because of conscience, but rather to keep himself popular.

(Sorry, but I'm an Osteen cynic.  )

[txradioguy]

Exactly.  Water over the road out about 3" now.  No problem with our 4x4 but tomorrow maybe be 2 ft.

We got him into a nursing home.  My wife and I will figure something out, maybe go volunteer at the church and beg a spot to sleep.

@thackney that's good to hear.

Now just make sure you and the missus are safe.

And right now telling you to "keep your power dry" means more than what it normally does :)

[GrouchoTex]

@CatherineofAragon
@mystery-ak

Joel Osteen, (and I say the faker supposed evangelist) at his Lakewood church in Houston that can hold 16,000 people won't open the church to those who need shelter. I hope no one gives him another penny. 

His spokesman says, "It's not our unwillingness, it's just practicality. It's been a safety issue for us.  Lakewood Church has a heart for this city.  The church would collect baby food and formula, and both baby and adult diapers for the city on Tuesday, and that the church would host people displaced by the storm once other shelters fill to capacity. He did not immediately respond to a request for comment."

The truth is, this so called pastor doesn't want his pretty church messed up with wet people fleeing for their lives.  Just wait, his next sermon will be his crying for the poor people flooded out.  A pox on him.

Claude Osteen, Joel's dad, started Lakewood, whe it was on the east side of town.
He opened up the church in 2001 for Allison victims. Too bad his son didn't follow in kind.
I heard one excuse was he didn't open it up is because he wasn't asked.
Seriously?
If you want to really get a rise, google Joel Osteen's house and look for the satellite photo.
He could put 100 families in that place alone.

[Elderberry]

Crap...  is that a newer storm projection?  Last one had Cameron as landfall and a more NE than NNE progression.  This track just exaberates the flooding in SE Texas

If you will observe. The track it took from 10AM Today to 1PM is Due North.

[GrouchoTex]

And now for a Story 180 degrees from the Osteen story:
(Maybe I should do the Monty Python thing and say,"And now, for something completely different").

My wife and I gathered up some things to donate to the local shelters that have opened up in Sugar Land.
Kempner High school turned people away with donations, unless they had Materesses and pet supplies, they had enough of everything else.
The Methodist church only needed mattresses.
The Catholic Church took all we had, and there were a lot of people there, supplies stacking up.
A room for clothes, a room for food, a room for towels and bedding, and a room for cleaning supplies, etc.

I am really proud of my neighbors.

[Victoria33]

Not likely because of conscience, but rather to keep himself popular.

(Sorry, but I'm an Osteen cynic.  )

@mystery-ak

Yes, he is only opening it as he now thinks, with the bad publicity, people will give him less money.  I think I would swim out rather than go to his fancy church.  Or, I would go there and rub my wet, dirty clothes on the sanctuary podium where he expounds his fake religion of wealth.

[anubias]

In case you haven't seen the video on this page, be sure to watch it.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/29/rescued-woman-goes-off-on-cnn-for-hurricane-harvey-coverage-video/

[austingirl]

URGENT



Harvey, now forecasted to make landfall as major hurricane.  To add to injury notice that the storm is forecasted to be within a 100 or so miles of itself for 4-5 days.  Precip projections may be historical.

Look at the predicted track from 8/24. So very wrong. Right about the precipitation.

[catfish1957]

In case you haven't seen the video on this page, be sure to watch it.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/29/rescued-woman-goes-off-on-cnn-for-hurricane-harvey-coverage-video/

After Rita, I told a CNN crew to get the hell away from my house.  Too bad they weren't filming.

[Sanguine]

In case you haven't seen the video on this page, be sure to watch it.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/29/rescued-woman-goes-off-on-cnn-for-hurricane-harvey-coverage-video/

Some people aren't attention whores.

[Bigun]

Sky finally beginning to lighten in SW Walker County at this hour.

[Elderberry]

Only 0.2 inches of rain in the last 3 hours, for a total of 44.80 inches here.

[Bigun]

Only 0.2 inches of rain in the last 3 hours, for a total of 44.80 inches here.

 

[austingirl]

Heaviest rain moving to the east of Houston. National Guard has arrived at Dickinson with high profile amphibious vehicles to help with evacuations.

@Elderberry

Axis are supposed to be great eating.

[musiclady]

@mystery-ak

Yes, he is only opening it as he now thinks, with the bad publicity, people will give him less money.  I think I would swim out rather than go to his fancy church.  Or, I would go there and rub my wet, dirty clothes on the sanctuary podium where he expounds his fake religion of wealth.

I have family in Nashville, and I can't help but note the drastic difference between Osteen and the REAL Church.  After the devastating flood there, the churches in the Nashville area took over with supplying food and drinking water as well as shelter and the rebuilding of homes, churches and places of business.

The idea that a "church" that size would not offer shelter immediately is a sign to me that it is not the Church at all.

[Elderberry]

Harvey's track from 10AM this morning has been True North. Projected track is 030 degrees @ 6mph

[Hoodat]

Looks like it is heading for Sabine Pass.

[Elderberry]

Looks like it is heading for Sabine Pass.

That's projected. Where's it actually going to go?

[AllThatJazzZ]

Some thoughts...

John Osteen would never have considered keeping Lakewood closed in such a catastrophic event. He'd have been the first one to open his doors. I'm saddened to the core that I don't see any evidence of the man John Osteen was in his son, Joel.

I watched a reporter as she covered the opening of the church as a shelter. All the volunteers she spoke to were singing the praises of Lakewood Church and how much they care about the community. It was if they'd been schooled in damage control language. This is an opportunity for Joel and Victoria to re-examine their walk and have a new come-to-Jesus moment.

[GrouchoTex]

I mentioned that Joel Osteen's father was Claude.
My mistake.
Claude Osteen was Major league pitcher.
John Osteen was Joel's dad.
I get that backwards, every now and again.

[Hoodat]

Some thoughts...

John Osteen would never have considered keeping Lakewood closed in such a catastrophic event. He'd have been the first one to open his doors. I'm saddened to the core that I don't see any evidence of the man John Osteen was in his son, Joel.

I never viewed Osteen as a spiritual leader, but more of a motivational speaker.  He tells a good joke every now and then, but I never hear any real substance to what he preaches.

[AllThatJazzZ]

I mentioned that Joel Osteen's father was Claude.
My mistake.
Claude Osteen was Major league pitcher.
John Osteen was Joel's dad.
I get that backwards, every now and again.

And the man who led me to the Lord. I'm eternally grateful to him and his sermon that night -- even though I can't remember a word of it!

[AllThatJazzZ]

I never viewed Osteen as a spiritual leader, but more of a motivational speaker.  He tells a good joke every now and then, but I never hear any real substance to what he preaches.

I hear you. As I said just above, I am indebted to his daddy. I get nada from Joel's ministry.

[libertybele]

Harvey is moving toward the north-northeast near 6 mph (9 km/h), and this general motion is
expected to continue tonight and tomorrow. On the forecast track, the broad circulation center of Harvey is expected to move inland over the northwestern Gulf Coast within the tropical storm warning
area by early Wednesday.


A storm surge warning has been issued 

*from Holly Beach to Morgan City Louisiana.

A Storm Surge Watch is in effect for...
* Port Bolivar to west of Holly Beach

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* North of Port O'Connor to Morgan City Louisiana

A Tropical Storm Watch is in effect for...
* East of Morgan City to Grand Isle

[Gefn]

I went to the local Red Cross today to donate blood but they sent me home. I'm coming down with a cold and I feel awful.

Instead, I wired money to my Master Card and sent what I could to a couple charities listed on the front page,

I hope it's ok. I feel like something the dog brought in. I think it's my yearly strep.

Anyway, all my Texan friends are in my thoughts and prayers. Take care.
❤️❤️❤️❤️

[GrouchoTex]

There is this strange yellow light in the sky now. I wonder what it could be?

[AllThatJazzZ]

There is this strange yellow light in the sky now. I wonder what it could be?

Yay for you!!!!!

[corbe]

   I was unaware of the enhanced status of looting in an Emergency Declaration area.

14 people in Houston county arrested on looting charges

 By Josh Delk - 08/29/17 05:58 PM EDT   

Fourteen people in the Houston area have been arrested on looting charges area over the past 48 hours as Hurricane Harvey floods the region.

If convicted, the defendants will face steeper punishments since the acts were committed during a crisis, according to a prosecutors' statement provided to NBC News.

The offenders, who were arrested by the Houston Police Department and the Harris County Sheriff's Office for allegedly looting residential and commercial properties during and after Harvey, will be subject to a Texas law that mandates increased punishments for crimes committed in a disaster area, the statement said.

http://thehill.com/homenews/348465-14-people-in-houston-area-arrested-on-looting-charges

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Just read that if it was cold enough Texas would have 40 feet of snow

[GrouchoTex]

@corbe

Get a rope.

[GrouchoTex]

Just read that if it was cold enough Texas would have 40 feet of snow

If your Aunt Minnie had a mustache, she'd be yer Uncle Fred.

[anubias]

   I was unaware of the enhanced status of looting in an Emergency Declaration area.

14 people in Houston county arrested on looting charges

 By Josh Delk - 08/29/17 05:58 PM EDT   

Fourteen people in the Houston area have been arrested on looting charges area over the past 48 hours as Hurricane Harvey floods the region.

If convicted, the defendants will face steeper punishments since the acts were committed during a crisis, according to a prosecutors' statement provided to NBC News.

The offenders, who were arrested by the Houston Police Department and the Harris County Sheriff's Office for allegedly looting residential and commercial properties during and after Harvey, will be subject to a Texas law that mandates increased punishments for crimes committed in a disaster area, the statement said.

http://thehill.com/homenews/348465-14-people-in-houston-area-arrested-on-looting-charges

Just posted this same article.  Good to hear that they might get "life" for looting here in TX.  I'd prefer a bullet between the eyes, but "life" will do.

[austingirl]

   I was unaware of the enhanced status of looting in an Emergency Declaration area.

14 people in Houston county arrested on looting charges

 By Josh Delk - 08/29/17 05:58 PM EDT   

Fourteen people in the Houston area have been arrested on looting charges area over the past 48 hours as Hurricane Harvey floods the region.

If convicted, the defendants will face steeper punishments since the acts were committed during a crisis, according to a prosecutors' statement provided to NBC News.

The offenders, who were arrested by the Houston Police Department and the Harris County Sheriff's Office for allegedly looting residential and commercial properties during and after Harvey, will be subject to a Texas law that mandates increased punishments for crimes committed in a disaster area, the statement said.

http://thehill.com/homenews/348465-14-people-in-houston-area-arrested-on-looting-charges

Looting stories are either being kept under wraps or are few in number.

[AllThatJazzZ]

   I was unaware of the enhanced status of looting in an Emergency Declaration area.

14 people in Houston county arrested on looting charges

 By Josh Delk - 08/29/17 05:58 PM EDT   

Fourteen people in the Houston area have been arrested on looting charges area over the past 48 hours as Hurricane Harvey floods the region.

If convicted, the defendants will face steeper punishments since the acts were committed during a crisis, according to a prosecutors' statement provided to NBC News.

The offenders, who were arrested by the Houston Police Department and the Harris County Sheriff's Office for allegedly looting residential and commercial properties during and after Harvey, will be subject to a Texas law that mandates increased punishments for crimes committed in a disaster area, the statement said.

http://thehill.com/homenews/348465-14-people-in-houston-area-arrested-on-looting-charges

We keep telling everyone ... DON'T FREAKING MESS WITH TEXAS!

[Bigun]

Looting stories are either being kept under wraps or are few in number.

They are few because the thugs know it won't be tolerated.

[GrouchoTex]

They are few because the thugs know it won't be tolerated.

Thugs are flooded, too.
It rains on the just and the unjust alike.