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Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« on: July 27, 2017, 03:13:29 pm »
Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
by David M. Drucker | Jul 27, 2017, 11:05 AM

Senate Republicans are committed to blocking President Trump from bypassing the confirmation process and replacing Attorney General Jeff Sessions with a recess appointment.

Indeed, as one Senate Republican explained to the Washington Examiner on Thursday, Senate Republicans made a collective decision in January to prevent Trump from making any recess appointment to his administration. That means the president is foreclosed from sidestepping Senate confirmation and replacing Sessions unilaterally during Congress' upcoming August recess.

"Recess appointments have never been an option for Trump," said the Republican senator.

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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2017, 03:23:01 pm »
In a convoluted way, I am pleased to see the Legislative Branch exert its powers as a coequal branch of the Federal Government.
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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2017, 03:36:57 pm »
In a convoluted way, I am pleased to see the Legislative Branch exert its powers as a coequal branch of the Federal Government.

Would have been nice if they had done the same when Obama was in the White House.

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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2017, 03:39:37 pm »
Lindsay Graham is also leading a coalition of Senators to pass a bill preventing the POTUS from firing Mueller.

Still think this isn't a blood battle between the entrenched deep state and freedom from it?

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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2017, 03:42:16 pm »
Would have been nice if they had done the same when Obama was in the White House.

I'll give Mitch credit for not allowing confirmation hearings on Merritt.
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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2017, 03:44:39 pm »

Looks like there is no-end to GOP obstruction, used by them against the one and only person actually pursuing the policies THEY HAVE PROMISED FOR YEARS.

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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2017, 03:45:39 pm »
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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2017, 05:44:14 pm »
In a convoluted way, I am pleased to see the Legislative Branch exert its powers as a coequal branch of the Federal Government.

Indeed. 

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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2017, 06:21:23 pm »
In a convoluted way, I am pleased to see the Legislative Branch exert its powers as a coequal branch of the Federal Government.
they have never been 'coequal'.

They have specific, independent powers as enumerated in Constitution. 

Curious, how do you gauge they are 'coequal' anyway?
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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2017, 06:25:18 pm »
Lindsay Graham is also leading a coalition of Senators to pass a bill preventing the POTUS from firing Mueller.

Still think this isn't a blood battle between the entrenched deep state and freedom from it?

It's turning into a fight between the Executive and Legislative branches, one that's been long overdue.

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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2017, 06:27:10 pm »
they have never been 'coequal'.

They have specific, independent powers as enumerated in Constitution. 

Curious, how do you gauge they are 'coequal' anyway?

They need to be, otherwise there are no checks and balances on all three branches.
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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2017, 06:46:42 pm »
they have never been 'coequal'.

They have specific, independent powers as enumerated in Constitution. 

Curious, how do you gauge they are 'coequal' anyway?

They are coequal in the sense that each has an independent grant of authority under the Constitution and is not subordinate to the other in that area. 

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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2017, 06:15:19 pm »
They need to be, otherwise there are no checks and balances on all three branches.
you are confusing being equal to being independent.

They cannot be coequal as they have separate responsibilities and authorities.

The Judicial by far is the weakest branch, as it must rely under upon the other branches for executing its decisions.

Congress by design is the strongest, as it has the power to collect taxes and can remove members of the other branches.

It is closely followed by the Executive, which controls a massive bureaucracy and the military.

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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2017, 06:21:39 pm »
They are coequal in the sense that each has an independent grant of authority under the Constitution and is not subordinate to the other in that area.
being coequal is not the same as being independent.

That's like saying the US is coequal to Iceland.

The Founders clearly enumerated separate powers to the three branches but the powers given Congress are greater than the powers given the other two branches.

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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2017, 06:27:49 pm »
Would have been nice if they had done the same when Obama was in the White House.
If you had read the article you would have been reminded that the GOP did use the same tactic against Obama.

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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2017, 06:32:16 pm »
This is consistent with what the GOP did with Obama too. They blocked, or attempted to block, recess appointments until they can be confirmed by the Senate. I don't know why anyone would have a problem with this--- unless you thought it was wrong they did it to Obama too.

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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2017, 06:33:17 pm »
Would have been nice if they had done the same when Obama was in the White House.

They did (or at least tried to).. and our side cheered them for doing it.

https://www.google.com/search?q=gop+blocking+obama+recess+appointments+-trump&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2017, 06:41:41 pm »
They need to be, otherwise there are no checks and balances on all three branches.

"All pigs are equal but some are more equal than others."

The judicial branch has been allowed to assume powers never intended for them.  They were only designated to decide on the constitutionality of laws passed by the other two branches.  Not decide law for themselves.

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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2017, 06:46:44 pm »
you are confusing being equal to being independent.

They cannot be coequal as they have separate responsibilities and authorities.

The Judicial by far is the weakest branch, as it must rely under upon the other branches for executing its decisions.

Congress by design is the strongest, as it has the power to collect taxes and can remove members of the other branches.

It is closely followed by the Executive, which controls a massive bureaucracy and the military.

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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2017, 06:48:29 pm »
I'm in Dodge City today, our last stop before returning home. Think I'll stock up on some good Kansas popcorn. lol

Just north of you, exploring Castle Rock, before heading back home to KC.
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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2017, 06:59:06 pm »
you are confusing being equal to being independent.

They cannot be coequal as they have separate responsibilities and authorities.

The Judicial by far is the weakest branch, as it must rely under upon the other branches for executing its decisions.

Congress by design is the strongest, as it has the power to collect taxes and can remove members of the other branches.

It is closely followed by the Executive, which controls a massive bureaucracy and the military.

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You are right. I've even been guilty of using 'co-equal' too often, usually in response to claims that the Executive Branch is the 'boss' of the other two and they have to do what he says. If anyone is really the boss, as you pointed out, it should be Congress as they are the closest representation to the people (who are the real boss). The Executive should technically be limited to the military and treaties, but the abuse of 'foregoing powers' has made it the bureaucratic monstrosity it is.

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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2017, 08:56:47 pm »
Would have been nice if they had done the same when Obama was in the White House.

Well, they did prevent him from replacing Scalia with a leftist.
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Re: Senate GOP blocking Trump from all recess appointments
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2017, 09:30:05 pm »
The current so-called Republicans in the Senate haven't worked this hard, ever -- you'd think their pensions, parking spaces, franking privileges, and gold plated offices were at stake.

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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2017, 09:35:58 pm »
If I am understanding this situation correctly, the 'establishment' GOP, aka RINO's are going against the leader of their own party.  That doesn't set well with me.  This is not what the people voted for.  IMHO Sessions is one of the 'leakers' and needs to go.
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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2017, 09:51:11 pm »
If I am understanding this situation correctly, the 'establishment' GOP, aka RINO's are going against the leader of their own party.  That doesn't set well with me.  This is not what the people voted for.  IMHO Sessions is one of the 'leakers' and needs to go.

Aside from Gorsuch, Sessions has been one of the only areas of competence the administration could point towards.
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