LISTEN: Rush Limbaugh Attempts To Defend Himself Against Accusations Of Selling Out

[skeeter]

Absolutely you should! 

However, I do not think you are going to experience a lot of agreement or trust in what Rush says on his show anymore.

The talk radio kings have demonstrated to me (an almost 3 decades long listener), that they are merely entertainment and that they really do not believe in what they 'preach'.

So I no longer regard them (except maybe for Levin who I think has an acute case of battered wife syndrome) as voices of Conservative thought. 

But you should listen to, and enjoy whomever tickles your fancy.

Which is why when I am in the dumps - I pop Spinal Tap into my player or hit their playlist on my iPod.

There is nothing close to the kinds of logic that one hears from them.

Because as you know, there is a fine line between clever.... and stupid.

I'm betting you saw This Is Spinal Tap recently.

[XenaLee]

Absolutely you should!

And I shall!

However, I do not think you are going to experience a lot of agreement or trust in what Rush says on his show anymore.

Couldn't possibly care less.

The talk radio kings have demonstrated to me (an almost 3 decades long listener), that they are merely entertainment and that they really do not believe in what they 'preach'.

They serve a very useful purpose against the left, IMO.  Without them, the left would be virtually unopposed and unexposed.  Thank God for the conservative radio hosts.  I also listen to Rick Roberts, another radio king in my estimation.  So whatever they privately believe is irrelative as long as they continue to serve the purpose of exposing the radical left.

So I no longer regard them (except maybe for Levin who I think has an acute case of battered wife syndrome) as voices of Conservative thought. 

Your choice.  Your call. 

But you should listen to, and enjoy whomever tickles your fancy.

Always have.  Always will.

Which is why when I am in the dumps - I pop Spinal Tap into my player or hit their playlist on my iPod.

There is nothing close to the kinds of logic that one hears from them.

I am unfamiliar with that.

Because as you know, there is a fine line between clever.... and stupid.

Are you speaking from 1st hand, personal experience here?   

[TomSea]

Susan Wright, the author of this piece is an amateur writer, she's been to be full of it.

Rush gets more listeners in one day than Red State has all year.

Wright has been shown to not know what she is talking about, example was on some gun control issue.

[INVAR]

I'm betting you saw This Is Spinal Tap recently.

Nope.  It's been like fifteen years or more.

But it left a mark on my psyche in the funny-bone department and I have quoted many parts of it in situations that needed a laugh.


Because as you know, there is a fine line between clever.... and stupid.

Are you speaking from 1st hand, personal experience here? 

I'm mostly stupid - and rarely clever (Just ask my wife).  But that said, the quote of unassailable big hair and loud band logic is from the aforementioned movie.

[driftdiver]

I'd like to see that post myself.

@Cripplecreek

My apologies it was geronl and not you.   My mistake

[Sanguine]

@Cripplecreek

My apologies it was geronl and not you.   My mistake

 

And, he is no longer a member here.

[jpsb]

OK, help me out.  There are two out of context quotes by a Ben Howe from Redstate, amongst the 19 pages (if you print it out) of quotes from other sites that Diana West has collected.  That's your evidence?  Not sure it rises to the level you described it as.

There are a number of obscene comments by other Red State's employees, former employees and contributors including the former head of Red State Eric Ericson.

[Silver Pines]

There are a number of obscene comments by other Red State's employees, former employees and contributors including the former head of Red State Eric Ericson.

@jpsb

I read down that list twice, and I saw two comments by Erickson.  Neither were obscene.  Which ones are you referring to?

You must read RedState a lot to know who on that list is a current or former employee. 

But even if the comments by Erickson were obscene, so what?  Even taking into account the crudest remarks in the linked article, so what?  Trump has always had an obscene mouth, and his personal behavior matched right up.  You want chapter and verse?

Yet you think he should be above similar jabs?   Why?

[jpsb]

@jpsb

I read down that list twice, and I saw two comments by Erickson.  Neither were obscene.  Which ones are you referring to?

You must read RedState a lot to know who on that list is a current or former employee. 

But even if the comments by Erickson were obscene, so what?  Even taking into account the crudest remarks in the linked article, so what?  Trump has always had an obscene mouth, and his personal behavior matched right up.  You want chapter and verse?

Yet you think he should be above similar jabs?   Why?

I've never heard Trump publicly say anything obscene. Arguing about Trump with a nevertrumper is not a produce use of my internet time so I am hoping we can agree to disagree.

[Cripplecreek]

@jpsb

I read down that list twice, and I saw two comments by Erickson.  Neither were obscene.  Which ones are you referring to?

You must read RedState a lot to know who on that list is a current or former employee. 

But even if the comments by Erickson were obscene, so what?  Even taking into account the crudest remarks in the linked article, so what?  Trump has always had an obscene mouth, and his personal behavior matched right up.  You want chapter and verse?

Yet you think he should be above similar jabs?   Why?

Its the neo Alinskyite standard.

Just the other day on twitter I saw a Trumper stating that "We have principles but can set them aside for the greater good of winning".

“judgment must be made “the less important the end…the more one can afford to engage in ethical evaluation of means in the context of the times…”

“ethical standards must be elastic to stretch in the times.”

the “morality of means depends on whether the means is being deployed at the time of imminent defeat or imminent victory.”

“judgment of the ethics of means and ends is dependant on the political position of those making the judgment.”

“in war the end justifies almost any means.” -Saul Alinsky

People who think they can create good out of Alinsky methods should never forget he dedicated a book to Satan and openly admitted that he never really intended to do any good for society, it was all about enriching himself using useful idiots.

[Silver Pines]

I've never heard Trump publicly say anything obscene. Arguing about Trump with a nevertrumper is not a produce use of my internet time so I am hoping we can agree to disagree.

@jpsb

So you were in the outback when the p-grabbing tape came out?

You weren't around when he became the first presidential candidate to brag about the size of his genitals to a worldwide audience?

I can go back and get you more if you want.  But I understand why you feel the need to run from what I have to say.  Your point of view has been exposed as completely hypocritical.  So run quick, now.

Modifying this post to note that you refused to respond to the direct question about Erickson's posts. 

[Silver Pines]

Its the neo Alinskyite standard.

Just the other day on twitter I saw a Trumper stating that "We have principles but can set them aside for the greater good of winning".

“judgment must be made “the less important the end…the more one can afford to engage in ethical evaluation of means in the context of the times…”

“ethical standards must be elastic to stretch in the times.”

the “morality of means depends on whether the means is being deployed at the time of imminent defeat or imminent victory.”

“judgment of the ethics of means and ends is dependant on the political position of those making the judgment.”

“in war the end justifies almost any means.” -Saul Alinsky

People who think they can create good out of Alinsky methods should never forget he dedicated a book to Satan and openly admitted that he never really intended to do any good for society, it was all about enriching himself using useful idiots.

Well, no one needs to waste their time trying to tell me that a man with Trump's mouth and personal history needs to be treated like Mother Theresa.  That's not going to fly.

[Cripplecreek]

Well, no one needs to waste their time trying to tell me that a man with Trump's mouth and personal history needs to be treated like Mother Theresa.  That's not going to fly.

They went from "HE FIGHTS!!!" to needing a fainting couch with a crying towel on standby.

[roamer_1]

I've never heard Trump publicly say anything obscene.

OMG. REALLY?

 

[Silver Pines]

They went from "HE FIGHTS!!!" to needing a fainting couch with a crying towel on standby.

The ultimate alpha male who requires swaddling.  He has to be the only one of those in existence.

[Silver Pines]

OMG. REALLY?

 

So it wasn't just me?  LOL

[Sanguine]

The ultimate alpha male who requires swaddling.  He has to be the only one of those in existence.

Oh, don't say that!  Someone will pull that Al Franken in a diaper photo.   

[EC]

The ultimate alpha male who requires swaddling.  He has to be the only one of those in existence.

Nah. They're all like that. Anyone who's fool enough to call themselves an alpha male, anyways. Never seen one as wasn't a petty bully and coward.

[Silver Pines]

Oh, don't say that!  Someone will pull that Al Franken in a diaper photo.   

@Sanguine

Aaaand you've done it, lol.  I bear no responsibility.   

[Silver Pines]

Trump just attacked Amazon for not paying "internet taxes."  Wonder what kind of porcine pretzel Limbaugh will contort into to spin that one.

[ABX]

I'm just going to repeat a comment I've made before on other threads for the sake of wasting bits and bytes, but I also know one of Rush's staff is a member here.

I am like many who shut Rush off because it was far too obvious he ignored his own principles, often in the very same breath. I lost count of the number of times Rush would go off in a rant about 'cronyism' and all its ills, then in the next breath, praise Trump as an outsider, ignoring that he built his entire empire on the exact type of cronyism and corruption he complained about not a minute before. Rush, for years rallied behind the mantra that "Conservatism wins every time its tried" and we lose when we give that up, then praised Trump for 'not being a Conservative' and that we needed to get behind populism in order to win. Rush would rant on and on about the 'donor class' like George Soros and Jeff Zuckerberg who used their money and influence to corrupt politics- showing, rightfully so, how they are very much a part of the political class, then, often in the same segment, cheered that Trump was 'not from the political class', an 'outsider', or 'not a politician', even though his career was built on the same 'donor class' tactics and actions he just trashed the likes of Soros, Zuckerberg, and others for.

During the primary Rush also said things along the lines of: 'Don't worry, once Trump is elected, it is our job to keep him in check but first we have to win...', then after he is elected, he does nothing but carry the water with scant honest criticism on major shifts left or major flip flops. Even Ann Coulter, who seemed to be Adam's Apple deep up Trump's backside in the primary has not been shy about calling him out for his broken promises and leftward shift.


This is very different from others like Mark Levin who, even though he supported Trump in the general, did it for a very honest reason 'he isn't Hillary' and didn't try to sugar coat or Pravda up Trump's image and history into some myth.

Many of us want honesty and consistency- something Rush has seemed to give up.

[roamer_1]

I'm just going to repeat a comment I've made before on other threads for the sake of wasting bits and bytes, but I also know one of Rush's staff is a member here.

I am like many who shut Rush off because it was far too obvious he ignored his own principles, often in the very same breath. I lost count of the number of times Rush would go off in a rant about 'cronyism' and all its ills, then in the next breath, praise Trump as an outsider, ignoring that he built his entire empire on the exact type of cronyism and corruption he complained about not a minute before. Rush, for years rallied behind the mantra that "Conservatism wins every time its tried" and we lose when we give that up, then praised Trump for 'not being a Conservative' and that we needed to get behind populism in order to win. Rush would rant on and on about the 'donor class' like George Soros and Jeff Zuckerberg who used their money and influence to corrupt politics- showing, rightfully so, how they are very much a part of the political class, then, often in the same segment, cheered that Trump was 'not from the political class', an 'outsider', or 'not a politician', even though his career was built on the same 'donor class' tactics and actions he just trashed the likes of Soros, Zuckerberg, and others for.

During the primary Rush also said things along the lines of: 'Don't worry, once Trump is elected, it is our job to keep him in check but first we have to win...', then after he is elected, he does nothing but carry the water with scant honest criticism on major shifts left or major flip flops. Even Ann Coulter, who seemed to be Adam's Apple deep up Trump's backside in the primary has not been shy about calling him out for his broken promises and leftward shift.


This is very different from others like Mark Levin who, even though he supported Trump in the general, did it for a very honest reason 'he isn't Hillary' and didn't try to sugar coat or Pravda up Trump's image and history into some myth.

Many of us want honesty and consistency- something Rush has seemed to give up.

BUMP THAT.
I quit listening over Romney. Same thing.

[INVAR]

I've never heard Trump publicly say anything obscene.

Oh yeah???  He's got plenty of 'F' bombs out there in public when talking policy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN7KHWdyrbI

[Sanguine]

I'm just going to repeat a comment I've made before on other threads for the sake of wasting bits and bytes, but I also know one of Rush's staff is a member here.

I am like many who shut Rush off because it was far too obvious he ignored his own principles, often in the very same breath. I lost count of the number of times Rush would go off in a rant about 'cronyism' and all its ills, then in the next breath, praise Trump as an outsider, ignoring that he built his entire empire on the exact type of cronyism and corruption he complained about not a minute before. Rush, for years rallied behind the mantra that "Conservatism wins every time its tried" and we lose when we give that up, then praised Trump for 'not being a Conservative' and that we needed to get behind populism in order to win. Rush would rant on and on about the 'donor class' like George Soros and Jeff Zuckerberg who used their money and influence to corrupt politics- showing, rightfully so, how they are very much a part of the political class, then, often in the same segment, cheered that Trump was 'not from the political class', an 'outsider', or 'not a politician', even though his career was built on the same 'donor class' tactics and actions he just trashed the likes of Soros, Zuckerberg, and others for.

During the primary Rush also said things along the lines of: 'Don't worry, once Trump is elected, it is our job to keep him in check but first we have to win...', then after he is elected, he does nothing but carry the water with scant honest criticism on major shifts left or major flip flops. Even Ann Coulter, who seemed to be Adam's Apple deep up Trump's backside in the primary has not been shy about calling him out for his broken promises and leftward shift.


This is very different from others like Mark Levin who, even though he supported Trump in the general, did it for a very honest reason 'he isn't Hillary' and didn't try to sugar coat or Pravda up Trump's image and history into some myth.

Many of us want honesty and consistency- something Rush has seemed to give up.

 

[INVAR]

I'm just going to repeat a comment I've made before on other threads for the sake of wasting bits and bytes, but I also know one of Rush's staff is a member here.

I am like many who shut Rush off because it was far too obvious he ignored his own principles, often in the very same breath. I lost count of the number of times Rush would go off in a rant about 'cronyism' and all its ills, then in the next breath, praise Trump as an outsider, ignoring that he built his entire empire on the exact type of cronyism and corruption he complained about not a minute before. Rush, for years rallied behind the mantra that "Conservatism wins every time its tried" and we lose when we give that up, then praised Trump for 'not being a Conservative' and that we needed to get behind populism in order to win. Rush would rant on and on about the 'donor class' like George Soros and Jeff Zuckerberg who used their money and influence to corrupt politics- showing, rightfully so, how they are very much a part of the political class, then, often in the same segment, cheered that Trump was 'not from the political class', an 'outsider', or 'not a politician', even though his career was built on the same 'donor class' tactics and actions he just trashed the likes of Soros, Zuckerberg, and others for.

During the primary Rush also said things along the lines of: 'Don't worry, once Trump is elected, it is our job to keep him in check but first we have to win...', then after he is elected, he does nothing but carry the water with scant honest criticism on major shifts left or major flip flops. Even Ann Coulter, who seemed to be Adam's Apple deep up Trump's backside in the primary has not been shy about calling him out for his broken promises and leftward shift.


This is very different from others like Mark Levin who, even though he supported Trump in the general, did it for a very honest reason 'he isn't Hillary' and didn't try to sugar coat or Pravda up Trump's image and history into some myth.

Many of us want honesty and consistency- something Rush has seemed to give up.

Mega dittos to ALL of that.

Dumped 24/7 and then dumped his show in total about a year ago.  Held onto Levin for another 4 months and decided that those talking the talk but not walking the walk was no longer someone whose words I could consider trustworthy, and turned all of talk radio off.

I feel much better as a result of not having my blood pressure up for 6 hours a day listening to the blowhards anymore.

[roamer_1]

I feel much better as a result of not having my blood pressure up for 6 hours a day listening to the blowhards anymore.

That's right.

[musiclady]

I'm just going to repeat a comment I've made before on other threads for the sake of wasting bits and bytes, but I also know one of Rush's staff is a member here.

I am like many who shut Rush off because it was far too obvious he ignored his own principles, often in the very same breath. I lost count of the number of times Rush would go off in a rant about 'cronyism' and all its ills, then in the next breath, praise Trump as an outsider, ignoring that he built his entire empire on the exact type of cronyism and corruption he complained about not a minute before. Rush, for years rallied behind the mantra that "Conservatism wins every time its tried" and we lose when we give that up, then praised Trump for 'not being a Conservative' and that we needed to get behind populism in order to win. Rush would rant on and on about the 'donor class' like George Soros and Jeff Zuckerberg who used their money and influence to corrupt politics- showing, rightfully so, how they are very much a part of the political class, then, often in the same segment, cheered that Trump was 'not from the political class', an 'outsider', or 'not a politician', even though his career was built on the same 'donor class' tactics and actions he just trashed the likes of Soros, Zuckerberg, and others for.

During the primary Rush also said things along the lines of: 'Don't worry, once Trump is elected, it is our job to keep him in check but first we have to win...', then after he is elected, he does nothing but carry the water with scant honest criticism on major shifts left or major flip flops. Even Ann Coulter, who seemed to be Adam's Apple deep up Trump's backside in the primary has not been shy about calling him out for his broken promises and leftward shift.


This is very different from others like Mark Levin who, even though he supported Trump in the general, did it for a very honest reason 'he isn't Hillary' and didn't try to sugar coat or Pravda up Trump's image and history into some myth.

Many of us want honesty and consistency- something Rush has seemed to give up.

Bumping this post again.

Your words speak for a lot of us who have seen the complete inconsistency and betrayal of conservatism in his love for and devotion to Trump.

Once trust is lost to this degree, it cannot be regained.

[XenaLee]

Mega dittos to ALL of that.

Dumped 24/7 and then dumped his show in total about a year ago.  Held onto Levin for another 4 months and decided that those talking the talk but not walking the walk was no longer someone whose words I could consider trustworthy, and turned all of talk radio off.

I feel much better as a result of not having my blood pressure up for 6 hours a day listening to the blowhards anymore.

Luckily, my blood pressure is just fine.  Perfect, in fact.   And the only blowhards that ever bother me are those on the radical left side of the political aisle.  And that includes the lying leftist pressholes. 

Rush and others like him (like Rick Roberts, Levin, etc.) are quite effective at combating and exposing the radical leftists.  I will continue to support them and tune in to them for as long as that remains a constant and a reality.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Luckily, my blood pressure is just fine.  Perfect, in fact.   And the only blowhards that ever bother me are those on the radical left side of the political aisle.  And that includes the lying leftist pressholes. 

Rush and others like him (like Rick Roberts, Levin, etc.) are quite effective at combating and exposing the radical leftists.  I will continue to support them and tune in to them for as long as that remains a constant and a reality.

You need a different avatar:

 

[DB]

I'm just going to repeat a comment I've made before on other threads for the sake of wasting bits and bytes, but I also know one of Rush's staff is a member here.

I am like many who shut Rush off because it was far too obvious he ignored his own principles, often in the very same breath. I lost count of the number of times Rush would go off in a rant about 'cronyism' and all its ills, then in the next breath, praise Trump as an outsider, ignoring that he built his entire empire on the exact type of cronyism and corruption he complained about not a minute before. Rush, for years rallied behind the mantra that "Conservatism wins every time its tried" and we lose when we give that up, then praised Trump for 'not being a Conservative' and that we needed to get behind populism in order to win. Rush would rant on and on about the 'donor class' like George Soros and Jeff Zuckerberg who used their money and influence to corrupt politics- showing, rightfully so, how they are very much a part of the political class, then, often in the same segment, cheered that Trump was 'not from the political class', an 'outsider', or 'not a politician', even though his career was built on the same 'donor class' tactics and actions he just trashed the likes of Soros, Zuckerberg, and others for.

During the primary Rush also said things along the lines of: 'Don't worry, once Trump is elected, it is our job to keep him in check but first we have to win...', then after he is elected, he does nothing but carry the water with scant honest criticism on major shifts left or major flip flops. Even Ann Coulter, who seemed to be Adam's Apple deep up Trump's backside in the primary has not been shy about calling him out for his broken promises and leftward shift.


This is very different from others like Mark Levin who, even though he supported Trump in the general, did it for a very honest reason 'he isn't Hillary' and didn't try to sugar coat or Pravda up Trump's image and history into some myth.

Many of us want honesty and consistency- something Rush has seemed to give up.

Rush knows who butters his bread. His show is a business first and he's quite good at it.

[Sanguine]

Rush knows who butters his bread. His show is a business first and he's quite good at it.

Yes, but what I think bothers many of us, he was, until the Donald came along, a thoughtful, reliable and thoroughly conservative pundit. 

[XenaLee]

You need a different avatar:

 

[musiclady]

Yes, but what I think bothers many of us, he was, until the Donald came along, a thoughtful, reliable and thoroughly conservative pundit.

Yep.

There's a difference between a conservative who entertains and an entertainer who pretends to be a conservative because he knows there's an audience.

I always thought Rush was the former.

His love for Trump proves he's the latter.

[Cripplecreek]

Yep.

There's a difference between a conservative who entertains and an entertainer who pretends to be a conservative because he knows there's an audience.

I always thought Rush was the former.

His love for Trump proves he's the latter.

He and others ran to populism (Progressivism) because that's where the adoration was.

Tucker Carlson, Bill O'Reilly, and Sean Hannity were laughed at by all on TOS for years for being weak kneed moderate little sisters. Now they're all kissing the boots of Tucker Carlson because he says America shouldn't be allowing people from failed nations into the USA.

The fact is that virtually all immigrants have always come here because the nations of their birth was failing them in some way. Guys like Nikola Tesla and Albert Einstein came from failing nations just like my great grandfather came from the collapsing Austro Hungarian empire

[ABX]

Around 1994, Rush rewrote his 35 truths of life to account for the fall of the Soviet Union. Reading this list, it appears to be due for a rewrite as he abandoned many of these.

1. There is a distinct singular American culture - rugged individualism
and self-reliance - which made America great.
2. The vast majority of the rich in this country did not inherit their
wealth; they earned it. They are the country's achievers, producers,
and job creators.
3. No nation has ever taxed itself into prosperity.
4. Evidence refutes liberalism.
5. There is no such thing as a New Democrat.
6. The Earth's eco-system is not fragile.
7. Character matters; leadership decends from character.
8. The most beautiful thing about a tree is what you do with it after you
cut it down.
9. Ronald Reagan was the greatest president of the twentieth century.
10. The 1980s was not a decade of greed but a decade of prosperity; it was
the longest period of peacetime growth in American history.
11. Abstinence prevents sexually transmitted disease and pregnancy -every
time it's tried.
12. Condoms only work during the school year.
13. Poverty is not the root ("rut") cause of crime.
14. There's a simple way to solve the crime problem: obey the law; punish
those who do not.
15. If you commit a crime, you are guilty.
16. Women should not be allowed on juries where the accused is a stud.
17. The way to improve our schools is not more money, but the
reintroduction of moral and spiritual values, as well as the four
"R's": reading, 'riting, 'rithmatic, and Rush.
18. I am not arrogant.
19. My first 35 Undeniable Truths are still undeniably true.
20. There is a God.
21. There is something wrong when critics say the problem with America is
too much religion.
22. Morality is not defined by individual choice.
23. The only way liberals win national elections is by pretending they're
not liberals.
24. Feminism was established as to allow unattractive women easier access
to the mainstream of society.
25. Follow the money. When somebody says, "It's not the money," it's
always the money.
26. Liberals attempt through judicial activism what they cannot win at the
ballot box.
27. Using federal dollars as a measure, our cities have not been
neglected, but poisoned with welfare dependency funds.
28. Progress is not striving for economic justice or fairness, but
economic growth.
29. Liberals measure compassion by how many people are given welfare.
Conservatives measure compassion by how many people no longer need it.
30. Compassion is no substitute for justice.
31. The culture war is between the winners and those who think they're
losers who want to become winners. The losers think the only way they
can become winners is by banding together all the losers and then
empowering a leader of the losers to make things right for them.
32. The Los Angeles riots were not caused by the Rodney King verdict. The
Los Angeles riots were caused by rioters.
33. You could afford your house without your government - if it weren't
for your government.
34. Words mean things.
35. Too many Americans can't laugh at themselves anymore.

[XenaLee]

Around 1994, Rush rewrote his 35 truths of life to account for the fall of the Soviet Union. Reading this list, it appears to be due for a rewrite as he abandoned many of these.

1.  Which ones did he abandon, and....

2.  How did he abandon/why do you say he abandoned?

[roamer_1]

LOL! That happened to me... only it was a billy goat and a stock tank...
Thanks for the memories (I think).

[Bigun]

LOL! That happened to me... only it was a billy goat and a stock tank...
Thanks for the memories (I think).

I wonder what's on his menu for today?

[roamer_1]

I wonder what's on his menu for today?

That particular goat? Dunno. He had a religious conversion to Hinduism, and got a red dot on his forehead. I haven't seen him since 

[Bigun]

That particular goat? Dunno. He had a religious conversion to Hinduism, and got a red dot on his forehead. I haven't seen him since