Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?

[INVAR]

@Mod1 @Mod2
   This poll’s results have been compromised by reasons I explained above.
   I have been here long enough to know that a few people have a distorted interest in making this Forum appear to be riddled with Trump Hate, which it is not, so I ask respectfully, will you clean up MY mess on isle 9?

Can you not just reset the poll and close it to members only?

[Mod1]

Poll reset. No guest voting. Everyone who has voted will have to vote again.

[catfish1957]

Does Trump have flaws? Absolutely.

But is there a better alternative out there?   I sure don't see it.

Do I consider Trump a Buffoon = Yes
Do I consider Trump to be a liberal = Yes
Is it better that he is in office rather than the Benghazi Bitch = Hell Yes

[corbe]

   Thank You Mod1

[INVAR]

Do I consider Trump a Buffoon = Yes
Do I consider Trump to be a liberal = Yes
Is it better that he is in office rather than the Benghazi Bitch = Hell Yes

Hater.

[Bigun]

Poll reset. No guest voting. Everyone who has voted will have to vote again.

Can't! Says I've already voted!

[corbe]

  I was able to re vote, @Bigun

[Victoria33]

Victoria, I for one value your input.

@Lando Lincoln

I put your name on my friend list.

[DB]

@roamer_1
@INVAR
@Cripplecreek
@txradioguy
@Freya
@CatherineofAragon

This thread illustrates why I have stopped posting on political threads.  I read the news articles and if I want to converse with my friends as you above are, plus some others, I will private message you.

Please don't stop posting on political threads. I look forward to reading your comments.

[DB]

Can't! Says I've already voted!

I got a do over and it worked...

[Victoria33]

Please don't stop posting on political threads. I look forward to reading your comments.

@DB

You are on my friend list.  I just sent you a private message - I hope it got there as I sent many.

[Wingnut]

There are no do-overs in life.  This has now become a democrat poll. 

[Axeslinger]

There are no do-overs in life.  This has now become a democrat poll.

Well, now we know who screwed the last one up!

 

[Cripplecreek]

Well, now we know who screwed the last one up!

 

The people who have spent the last few months screeching about vote fraud.

[bigheadfred]

in before the devil made me do it

stfu hillary

my two scents were worth six last election so this election my two cents are worth sixth sense he squalls a quorum on the four ...ummmmm... minus tense equals too.... i f u c k i n g  win...

stfu hillary

seeyaluvyabye

[ConstitutionRose]

I didn't vote for Trump due to his "overwhelming" character faults and because I believe that voting for one of two bad choices only encourages more of the same.  However, if Trump were to get his act together and do a good job as President, I'd start wearing one of his red hats in a heartbeat.  I don't see that as very likely given his character, history and age.  This isn't hate.  It's is a realistic assessment if the person.

As to the back and forth between the two camps - as long as it's civil and not personal, I view it as free speech.  And am grateful this forum can support that.  The negative is that when it goes on and on and on, it kills the discussion in what might otherwise be an enlightening thread.  I just quit reading, as do many others.  You could make an argument, that in excess it kills the discussion. 

[Rivergirl]

Can't tell you how offensive it is to be called a 'hater' for disagreeing and or  disapproving of DT's behavior.

[ConstitutionRose]

I meant to add to my previous post.  Hubby and I do not discuss politics because we need to stay married AND work together.

@Victoria33

I would really hate to see a member of this forum feel they could not express themselves.  I always look for posts with your name on them.

[Victoria33]

@Victoria33
I would really hate to see a member of this forum feel they could not express themselves.  I always look for posts with your name on them.

@ConstitutionRose

Just put your name on my friend list.

[truth_seeker]

There are no do-overs in life.  This has now become a democrat poll.

The poll is to be run and rerun, until the desired result is achieved, and Trump supporters are put in their proper place here.

That was and remains  the true purpose, and expected outcome.

[Sanguine]

The poll is to be run and rerun, until the desired result is achieved, and Trump supporters are put in their proper place here.

That was and remains  the true purpose, and expected outcome.

Thank you, O Seer, for finally telling us the true meaning of the poll and motivations of the poster!

 

[Wingnut]

The poll is to be run and rerun, until the desired result is achieved, and Trump supporters are put in their proper place here.

That was and remains  the true purpose, and expected outcome.

It was a "Push Poll".  Pushed the Trump respondents away.

[XenaLee]

This thread went from train-wreck disaster to hilariously entertaining.

Good job, guys!   

[mystery-ak]

@Victoria33

I would really hate to see a member of this forum feel they could not express themselves.  I always look for posts with your name on them.

Don't stop posting on threads....I will not tolerate members being run off a thread by other members..The MODs have been instructed to watch for such threats but please report them..we can't be everywhere.

[INVAR]

The poll is to be run and rerun, until the desired result is achieved, and Trump supporters are put in their proper place here.

That was and remains  the true purpose, and expected outcome.

Oh shove it already.  He explained why:

I just turned off Guest Voting to keep you Trumpers from screwing up this Poll, by just clearing your cache, similar as you did in the Primary last year.     
Your silly scheme to prove your theory that Briefers as a whole hate Trump, is as shallow as most your other arguments. 
This poll’s results have been compromised by reasons I explained above.
I have been here long enough to know that a few people have a distorted interest in making this Forum appear to be riddled with Trump Hate, which it is not

Guest voting was turned off so MEMBERS only can vote, and so you cannot just clear your cache and vote as many times as one person wants.

[EC]

Oh shove it already.  He explained why:

Guest voting was turned off so MEMBERS only can vote, and so you cannot just clear your cache and vote as many times as one person wants.

Wasting your breath. He's an AT - they believe in a constitutionally protected right to brigade online polls to support the Orange One.

[XenaLee]

Crap.  I just had to say something.  (back to train-wreck)

Nevermind.

[Wingnut]

Wasting your breath. He's an AT - they believe in a constitutionally protected right to brigade online polls to support the Orange One.

I demand a special TBR council to investigate these so call outsider poll influencers being in cahoots with members who support our President!.

[Sanguine]

I demand a special TBR council to investigate these so call outsider poll influencers being in cahoots with members who support our President!.

And, can we then impeach?

[jpsb]

Trump is part of the so-called "deep state" - being a dirty NYC real estate developer will do that   

You NeverTrumpers are beyond hope. You are so blinded by your hatred of Trump that you are incapable of reason or logic.

[Wingnut]

And, can we then impeach?

One is not dependent on the other.  By Gawd this is 'Merica.  Impeachment talk is the new normal.

[Lando Lincoln]

Hopeless.

[jpsb]

@Victoria33

Please don't let anybody run you off the political threads.

@Victoria33

I agree with @CatherineofAragon do not let disagreeable people silence you. You have a 1st amendment right to voice your opinions.

[mystery-ak]

I demand a special TBR council to investigate these so call outsider poll influencers being in cahoots with members who support our President!.

I name you as a Special Council to investigate this matter...

[Sanguine]

Whew...a Wingnut investigation?  Bound to be interesting at least.

[corbe]

   I must have been stoned when I thought this poll would be good idea.

[Wingnut]

I name you as a Special Council to investigate this matter...

Can there possibly be anything more frightening than Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor and "independent" counsel....

Wingnut with a subpoena suspect list.!

[andy58-in-nh]

The problem with using the word "hate" (or love, for that matter) in the context of any political inquiry is that it assumes a binary set of opinions.

The vast majority of members here appear to neither love nor hate Donald Trump. Instead, they tend to either support and defend him on one hand, or oppose and question him on the other, and they do so on the basis of individual issues and events. What ought to be avoided is uncritical and reflexive thinking, and also, ad hominem attacks on those who express opposing views.

Is that really too much to ask?

[EC]

Let me be the first to say ..... COVER-UP!!!!

The Special Prosecutor has a vested comedic interest in the identity of the Dem plant remaining unknown.

[Silver Pines]

I don't want to come off as if I have a right to preach, because I know I don't, but I wonder what the result would be if we could be just a little less hotheaded and avoid "shove it" and similar responses.  I'm not calling out anyone specifically, because it isn't only one person that causes so many threads to be locked.

It wouldn't mean caving to someone's POV.  Hell, do it for Memorial Day, or because you respect the job Myst is trying to do, or because you don't want your dog to read your angry posts, or whatever.

[truth_seeker]

This pretty much sums up the situation.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXrcDonY-B8

[Oceander]

You NeverTrumpers are beyond hope. You are so blinded by your hatred of Trump that you are incapable of reason or logic.

/snicker

If you knew anything about NYC real estate you'd realize the truth.  But you don't, and you won't inform yourself because God forbid you should challenge your belief in the Great Orange God.

Trump isn't the end of the world by any means.  Go back in history for any length of time and he starts to look outright competent.  But he isn't a great leader, either.  A demagogue?  Yes, he's good at that, but demagoguery is not leadership.

Trump is just one more not-so-great garden variety politician this country will have to tolerate, just as it has with so many others.

I'll take what I can get - Justice Gorsuch, for example - but I'm not going to absolve Trump of all the stupidities, nor of all the future problems he's creating, simply because of Justice Gorsuch.  George W. Bush and his overreaching led directly to Obama.  I am quite worried about what Trump and his idiocies will lead to.

[corbe]

I don't want to come off as if I have a right to preach, because I know I don't, but I wonder what the result would be if we could be just a little less hotheaded and avoid "shove it" and similar responses.  I'm not calling out anyone specifically, because it isn't only one person that causes so many threads to be locked.

It wouldn't mean caving to someone's POV.  Hell, do it for Memorial Day, or because you respect the job Myst is trying to do, or because you don't want your dog to read your angry posts, or whatever.

   Thank you @CatherineofAragon for the fresh smell of sanity and reason.

[Sanguine]

The problem with using the word "hate" (or love, for that matter) in the context of any political inquiry is that it assumes a binary set of opinions.

The vast majority of members here appear to neither love nor hate Donald Trump. Instead, they tend to either support and defend him on one hand, or oppose and question him on the other, and they do so on the basis of individual issues and events. What ought to be avoided is uncritical and reflexive thinking, and also, ad hominem attacks on those who express opposing views.

Is that really too much to ask?

 

[Wingnut]

Let me be the first to say ..... COVER-UP!!!!

The Special Prosecutor has a vested comedic interest in the identity of the Dem plant remaining unknown.

Are you implying I might be somewhat less than objective in my new position to root out the wrong-doers and board subversives and that dreaded Dem plant? 

[Silver Pines]

   Thank you @CatherineofAragon for the fresh smell of sanity and reason.

I'll even change my tagline.

[corbe]

   Appointing @Wingnut Special Prosecutor is akin to appointing Dick Cheney to head your VP Selection Committee, it's a foregone conclusion and besides he's too conspiratorial to judge this objectively.

[XenaLee]

   I must have been stoned when I thought this poll would be good idea.

LMAO!   Post of the Day!   

[XenaLee]

   Appointing @Wingnut Special Prosecutor is akin to appointing Dick Cheney to head your VP Selection Committee, it's a foregone conclusion and besides he's too conspiratorial to judge this objectively.

Or.... akin to appointing Cheney to lead your Safe Hog Hunting Safari.  Big mistake.   

[Frank Cannon]

I don't want to come off as if I have a right to preach, because I know I don't, but I wonder what the result would be if we could be just a little less hotheaded and avoid "shove it" and similar responses.  I'm not calling out anyone specifically, because it isn't only one person that causes so many threads to be locked.

It wouldn't mean caving to someone's POV.  Hell, do it for Memorial Day, or because you respect the job Myst is trying to do, or because you don't want your dog to read your angry posts, or whatever.

We all know you are talking about me. You can shove it.