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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #400 on: January 09, 2021, 08:36:49 am »
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Can you say "ROKU"?

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That's what I have been using for several years now. Now I admit I haven't extensively explored all the services available, but I didn't yet find one that gave me OAN News. Now with ustvgo I can watch it and it don't cost me anything.

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« Reply #401 on: January 09, 2021, 08:50:53 am »
We are all sharing my daughter's Netflix account. I'll take a look at locast, but I almost never watch local broadcast channels. I have an active antenna set up and in Houston I receive gobs of local stations that I rarely look at.

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« Reply #402 on: January 09, 2021, 10:41:39 am »
I'm thinking I may look into something non TCP-IP based for home automation so I don't have to deal with security and also big tech.

Maybe something z-wave based?

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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #403 on: January 09, 2021, 05:34:36 pm »
We are all sharing my daughter's Netflix account. I'll take a look at locast, but I almost never watch local broadcast channels. I have an active antenna set up and in Houston I receive gobs of local stations that I rarely look at.

Local channels are a lot more than they used to me.  MeTv, GetTV, Comet and Laff are now local channels.  Locast has the large market statios so all these syndicated programs are there.
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #404 on: January 09, 2021, 09:42:15 pm »
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That's what I have been using for several years now. Now I admit I haven't extensively explored all the services available, but I didn't yet find one that gave me OAN News. Now with ustvgo I can watch it and it don't cost me anything.

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If you MUST have local news broadcast channels,spring 40 bucks for a small RCA outside antenna. I live 54 miles from the closest tv broadcast tower,and pick up 43 channels with my RCA antenna.

I forget the exact model now,but go to Amazon and do  a search there for RCA tv antennas,and it's the one closest to 40 bucks.
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #405 on: January 09, 2021, 09:55:36 pm »
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If you MUST have local news broadcast channels,spring 40 bucks for a small RCA outside antenna. I live 54 miles from the closest tv broadcast tower,and pick up 43 channels with my RCA antenna.

I forget the exact model now,but go to Amazon and do  a search there for RCA tv antennas,and it's the one closest to 40 bucks.

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The channel I wanted was not carried locally. I do have an RCA antenna with a built in amp that really pulls in the stations. Stations that I rarely even look at.

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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #406 on: April 25, 2021, 04:38:51 pm »

More Americans say they are "cutting the cord"

By Fred Backus

April 23, 2021 / 1:55 PM / CBS News


More and more Americans seem to be "cutting the cord" and switching away from cable and satellite subscription services in favor of streaming services, reflecting changes in the way they consume television. 

Five years ago, 63% of Americans mostly watched television through cable and satellite. Today, that percentage has dropped to fewer than half of all Americans, while the percentage of those primarily watching television via a streaming service on the internet has jumped 17 percentage points, from 20% in 2016 to 37% today. About one in 10 Americans watch their TV through a digital antenna, which replaced old-fashioned broadcast television several years ago.



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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #407 on: April 25, 2021, 06:05:12 pm »
I did this at the end of January, so I can report some resultss.

The price of the Cable was over $150 per month.  I was able to get another ISP, at $65 per month.  I have Amazon Premium and a Fire Stick, so there are channels available for free, but the channels I still watch, like FNS, require a third-party provider for the license.  I have FUBO, but Sling is cheaper.  The FUBO is about 50 bucks.

The internet is more reliable, because the Cable provider uses fiber optics, while my new provider is microwave with a little dish on my house.  I have an excellent line-of-sight connection by virtue of my glorious view of Laughlin, which is where the transmitter is.  I have a 20 Mbs download package, but I can go a lot higher if I want to pay more.

Bottom line:  I pay less for better service in more rooms, and that's what it's all about.

ROKU is also well priced.  Still a savings.
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #408 on: April 25, 2021, 07:05:13 pm »
These days, a Roku is dirt cheap. I got one at Christmastime for $10, new—of course it was the base model with no DVR or anything like that, but the HDMI cable that came with it alone was worth that much, so I essentially got it for free.
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #409 on: April 25, 2021, 07:06:16 pm »
@sneakypete

That's what I have been using for several years now. Now I admit I haven't extensively explored all the services available, but I didn't yet find one that gave me OAN News. Now with ustvgo I can watch it and it don't cost me anything.

I have enough stuff & nonsense via my Vizio smart tv.  But for OAN + 40 or so channels and $30 @ year, Klowd on a computer will do fine.

https://www.klowdtv.com
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #410 on: April 25, 2021, 07:38:52 pm »
We have ROKU, but hubby hasn't given up his cable.

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« Reply #411 on: April 25, 2021, 08:08:41 pm »
I did this at the end of January, so I can report some resultss.

The price of the Cable was over $150 per month.  I was able to get another ISP, at $65 per month.  I have Amazon Premium and a Fire Stick, so there are channels available for free, but the channels I still watch, like FNS, require a third-party provider for the license.  I have FUBO, but Sling is cheaper.  The FUBO is about 50 bucks.

The internet is more reliable, because the Cable provider uses fiber optics, while my new provider is microwave with a little dish on my house.  I have an excellent line-of-sight connection by virtue of my glorious view of Laughlin, which is where the transmitter is.  I have a 20 Mbs download package, but I can go a lot higher if I want to pay more.

Bottom line:  I pay less for better service in more rooms, and that's what it's all about.

ROKU is also well priced.  Still a savings.

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I never had cable,but I have had a couple of different sat services.

Dumped them all several years ago when I bought a digital RCA antenna maybe 1/4 th the size of traditional antennas,and mounted it on a steel pole maybe 12 feet off the ground. I was pulling in 8 channels with the old antenna,and now get  43 channels with the new RCA.

$32 bucks including shipping from amazon,and pulls in channels from as far as 70 miles away.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0024R4B5C/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1


https://www.roku.com/products/players

I bought the $99 one which is often on sale for $79. I honestly can't recommend any of the cheaper ones because they just don't have all the features. Been using mine for several years now with zero problems from either the player or ROKU.

ROKU's remote is one sweet piece of work,too!

I have no idea how many channels I get with the ROKU. Must be hundreds more than I will ever have time to watch,but the big thing is I can subscribe to the premium biggies like HBO,Amazon,Hulu,etc,etc,etc,right through ROKU,have them pay each individual channel I subscribe to,and I only have one payment and ROKU is the only company that has my bank account number.

I also like the fact all my streaming bills are at one location,and it is easy to check them all and stop one at any time I decide I don't want it anymore.

Since I bought the HD RCA antenna and the ROKU player,I am paying less than half of what I did pay the sat companies,and getting a lot more channels. Not only that,but I don't lose my signal in rain or snow storms,like I did sometimes with the dish.


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« Reply #412 on: April 25, 2021, 08:13:48 pm »
We have the internet through the cable company and Rokus. $65/month. We have Prime which, with free shipping pays for itself plus.
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #413 on: April 25, 2021, 08:14:55 pm »
We have ROKU, but hubby hasn't given up his cable.
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Probably just doesn't want to have to learn something new.

Not that *I* know anything personally about that sort of attitude you understand,but I HAVE hear rumors about it.
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« Reply #414 on: April 25, 2021, 08:15:49 pm »
I mostly read with a Youtube documentary in the background. On book 40 for the year.
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« Reply #415 on: April 25, 2021, 08:40:54 pm »
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Probably just doesn't want to have to learn something new.

Not that *I* know anything personally about that sort of attitude you understand,but I HAVE hear rumors about it.

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« Reply #416 on: June 06, 2021, 02:27:51 pm »
Local channels are a lot more than they used to me.  MeTv, GetTV, Comet and Laff are now local channels.  Locast has the large market statios so all these syndicated programs are there.
Quick question, since the universal remote that came with my defunct cable box won't change tv channels (and I don't know if I actually have any other channels on the tv besides good ol' number three: (original remote long lost, and new teevee just not in the budget--this one is only seven yrs old or so)

Cable company quit providing cable tv. (Yes, really!) Abandoned their boxes and everything. I have a fire stick (older) and while I like the programming I can get, it seems to suddenly have problems in the middle of movies. I don't watch much current production, simply because of faggotry and woke-ism and blends of people not seen in most normal gatherings in these parts. What masquerades as "normal" is pretty much alien fare here. But the Mrs. likes to watch Wheel of Fortune and catch the local news from time to time. so I am going to have to get an antenna. About all the fare we will get is in the 35 mile envelope, otherwise, it will be the same networks, just out of another town, 130 miles away or Canada. In case we want to see what regina is putting out, I'll get a dual range with amplifier and that should handle that, and I'm thinking a Roku for the set to go through wifi channels with because the fire stick seems to be having trouble holding onto a wifi signal even though it's only 20 ft. to the router.

Finally, I get around to the question: will the roku allow me to change channels with the antenna feed, or do I need something else to change the channels?
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« Reply #417 on: June 06, 2021, 03:02:31 pm »

Finally, I get around to the question: will the roku allow me to change channels with the antenna feed, or do I need something else to change the channels?

None of the Roku remotes that I've used will change TV channels. i do have Universal remotes that will control Roku as well as control the TV. You need to pick up a universal remote to control your TV.

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« Reply #418 on: June 06, 2021, 03:33:17 pm »
Quick question, since the universal remote that came with my defunct cable box won't change tv channels (and I don't know if I actually have any other channels on the tv besides good ol' number three: (original remote long lost, and new teevee just not in the budget--this one is only seven yrs old or so)

Cable company quit providing cable tv. (Yes, really!) Abandoned their boxes and everything. I have a fire stick (older) and while I like the programming I can get, it seems to suddenly have problems in the middle of movies. I don't watch much current production, simply because of faggotry and woke-ism and blends of people not seen in most normal gatherings in these parts. What masquerades as "normal" is pretty much alien fare here. But the Mrs. likes to watch Wheel of Fortune and catch the local news from time to time. so I am going to have to get an antenna. About all the fare we will get is in the 35 mile envelope, otherwise, it will be the same networks, just out of another town, 130 miles away or Canada. In case we want to see what regina is putting out, I'll get a dual range with amplifier and that should handle that, and I'm thinking a Roku for the set to go through wifi channels with because the fire stick seems to be having trouble holding onto a wifi signal even though it's only 20 ft. to the router.

Finally, I get around to the question: will the roku allow me to change channels with the antenna feed, or do I need something else to change the channels?

Locast has all the local channels (and subchannels) for the major markets, which is a boon to those of us living in the sticks with little-to-no choices with the antenna TV.

I don't know anything about Roku operation (I have Fire Sticks, old and new), but I'm getting a crash course in it this week.  Somebody donated a unit to our local GOP Headquarters a couple days ago, and I haven't gotten in to see it yet.
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« Reply #419 on: June 06, 2021, 04:29:56 pm »
Quick question, since the universal remote that came with my defunct cable box won't change tv channels (and I don't know if I actually have any other channels on the tv besides good ol' number three: (original remote long lost, and new teevee just not in the budget--this one is only seven yrs old or so)

Cable company quit providing cable tv. (Yes, really!) Abandoned their boxes and everything. I have a fire stick (older) and while I like the programming I can get, it seems to suddenly have problems in the middle of movies. I don't watch much current production, simply because of faggotry and woke-ism and blends of people not seen in most normal gatherings in these parts. What masquerades as "normal" is pretty much alien fare here. But the Mrs. likes to watch Wheel of Fortune and catch the local news from time to time. so I am going to have to get an antenna. About all the fare we will get is in the 35 mile envelope, otherwise, it will be the same networks, just out of another town, 130 miles away or Canada. In case we want to see what regina is putting out, I'll get a dual range with amplifier and that should handle that, and I'm thinking a Roku for the set to go through wifi channels with because the fire stick seems to be having trouble holding onto a wifi signal even though it's only 20 ft. to the router.

Finally, I get around to the question: will the roku allow me to change channels with the antenna feed, or do I need something else to change the channels?

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Antenna feeds regular TV. Your TV, if it is a flatscreen, has TV, which has either a cable connection, or the antenna connection, AND HDMI channels, which are the various things you hook to the TV otherwise, like your ROKU and your Firestick.

SO, you still need a remote for your TV to change between TV, HDMI1 HDMI2, HDMI3,USB, etc...
When the TV is on 'TV', the TV will be getting feed from the antenna or the cable, so you will seek and change TV channels with that same remote....
Then each of the HDMI channels will represent each of the other things you plug in....

In my case, I have nothing hooked to the TV side of the TV...
And HDMI1 is the pooter I have hooked to the TV.
And HDMI2 is the ROKU...

Now, when I am on HDMI2 (which I got to using the TV remote), I am on the ROKU, so I then have to use the ROKU remote to navigate within that sphere...

As for the lost TV Remote, there are several universal remotes out there - I will recommend the RCA remote, which is the one I use, since the real remote that came with the TV is a precious commodity, irreplaceable, so it lives right under the TV where I have to get up to use it. I use the RCA for general purposes. It ain't perfect, but it gives me ON/OFF and volume control and selects between HDMI ports, which is the sum total I need it for.

Setting up a universal to work with your particular TV is a chore, but not all that bad... RTFM.

As for what to use, I will still maintain that hooking a pooter to the TV is the best way to go - Gives you a regular Windows desktop on the TV... Fire up firefox with it's ad-blocker add-on, and most of the ad-sponsored stuff, you never even see. Spend some time watching TV on your laptop for a while and you will find out there is very little you can't get to with regular old internet. I barely ever use the ROKU. Can't even remember the last time...
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #420 on: June 06, 2021, 04:42:10 pm »
None of the Roku remotes that I've used will change TV channels. i do have Universal remotes that will control Roku as well as control the TV. You need to pick up a universal remote to control your TV.

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Huh? My ROKU remotes changes channels daily for me. The trick is to look up the broadcast stations like NBC on your roku search engine,and add them to your channel list.

The ROKU essentially takes over all the tv controls. The tv serves as a slave monitor to the ROKU. You can even use it to turn your tv on and off.

Having said that,I normally watch network broadcast channels using the tv antenna and the tv remote.

I bought a RCA digital antenna

 https://www.amazon.com/Antenna-Satellite-Broadcast-Epicenter-Reception/dp/B0024R4B5C/ref=sr_1_3?crid=JFXYUV3L3VYS&dchild=1&keywords=rca+antenna&qid=1623012031&sprefix=rca+antenna%2Caps%2C304&sr=8-3

And pull in over 40 broadcast channels with it. Never even heard rumors about most of them,never mind seeing them before going with the antenna above
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« Reply #421 on: June 06, 2021, 05:24:07 pm »
@Smokin Joe

Antenna feeds regular TV. Your TV, if it is a flatscreen, has TV, which has either a cable connection, or the antenna connection, AND HDMI channels, which are the various things you hook to the TV otherwise, like your ROKU and your Firestick.

SO, you still need a remote for your TV to change between TV, HDMI1 HDMI2, HDMI3,USB, etc...
When the TV is on 'TV', the TV will be getting feed from the antenna or the cable, so you will seek and change TV channels with that same remote....
Then each of the HDMI channels will represent each of the other things you plug in....

In my case, I have nothing hooked to the TV side of the TV...
And HDMI1 is the pooter I have hooked to the TV.
And HDMI2 is the ROKU...

Now, when I am on HDMI2 (which I got to using the TV remote), I am on the ROKU, so I then have to use the ROKU remote to navigate within that sphere...

As for the lost TV Remote, there are several universal remotes out there - I will recommend the RCA remote, which is the one I use, since the real remote that came with the TV is a precious commodity, irreplaceable, so it lives right under the TV where I have to get up to use it. I use the RCA for general purposes. It ain't perfect, but it gives me ON/OFF and volume control and selects between HDMI ports, which is the sum total I need it for.

Setting up a universal to work with your particular TV is a chore, but not all that bad... RTFM.

As for what to use, I will still maintain that hooking a pooter to the TV is the best way to go - Gives you a regular Windows desktop on the TV... Fire up firefox with it's ad-blocker add-on, and most of the ad-sponsored stuff, you never even see. Spend some time watching TV on your laptop for a while and you will find out there is very little you can't get to with regular old internet. I barely ever use the ROKU. Can't even remember the last time...
That original is lost, the one the cable outfit gave us was supposed to be universal, but when I try to change channels in TV mode, it won't. Maybe I need to rescan for channels, but I will wait until I get an antenna to do that.

The laptop option isn't an option. If it was just me, that would be one thing, but Mrs. Joe is NOT tech savvy, and only uses a computer to play solitaire. Has no interest otherwise. Since she will be doing much of that teevee watching, I need something simple enough for her to navigate with a minimum of training...

When I'm at work, we have satellite tv everywhere I end up in the lab or living quarters, at home though, Mr. Joe will do most of the watching.
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« Reply #422 on: June 06, 2021, 05:44:44 pm »
That original is lost, the one the cable outfit gave us was supposed to be universal, but when I try to change channels in TV mode, it won't. Maybe I need to rescan for channels, but I will wait until I get an antenna to do that.

The remote for the cable box is changing the channels in that box, not on your TV. At least mine was that way - I still needed the TV remote to turn the TV ON/OFF... And to trim volume (though the cable remote did that too). SO you need the remote, one way or the other. It's maybe 15 bucks for a universal remote, right at the Wallyworld.

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The laptop option isn't an option. If it was just me, that would be one thing, but Mrs. Joe is NOT tech savvy, and only uses a computer to play solitaire. Has no interest otherwise. Since she will be doing much of that teevee watching, I need something simple enough for her to navigate with a minimum of training...

Nah... She can do it... Shoot, my mamma does it all the time. Set her on PutoTV for instance... Totally free, and purposefully set up to be like a cable box... I think it is a pretty crappy site, but that is because I can't be rid of the commercials, and I hate having to watch at a particular time, like TV, and PlutoTV, are set up to do. I am an OnDemand guy, so I do very little direct streaming, which is what Pluto does.

Another one is Peacock TV, which is NBC's offering... Really easy to navigate. And both them sites have movies on demand.

Now all you need is a bookmark to PlutoTV, and another to PeacockTV set in the Bookmark bar of the browser, and she can get to em fine.

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When I'm at work, we have satellite tv everywhere I end up in the lab or living quarters, at home though, Mr. Joe will do most of the watching.

If she can run a ROKU, she can run internet based sites. Only difference is, you operate it from your chair with a wireless KB/Glidepad which ain't much different than any other KB... and I think easier to deal with than the remote - except that I can't see it in the dark... Still looking for a backlit portable KB/Glide.
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« Reply #423 on: June 06, 2021, 06:21:02 pm »
Sister gave us access to her Netflix account via Roku..... but she is always busy and we didn't want to bother her with setting up Amazon (Prime) tv with the roku.... so instead we take wife's laptop and log in her Amazon Prime account and navigate to videos to stream on the computer. Now we do the same thing, but with a hdmi cable we just transfer the show to the tv to watch when we need to (family viewing).... but most the junk on Amazon is just so gay central that it is not worth watching most the time. But if we do a search for a movie on Roku and it shows up as being on Amazon, we can watch it commercial free.
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #424 on: June 06, 2021, 06:45:49 pm »
Sister gave us access to her Netflix account via Roku..... but she is always busy and we didn't want to bother her with setting up Amazon (Prime) tv with the roku.... so instead we take wife's laptop and log in her Amazon Prime account and navigate to videos to stream on the computer. Now we do the same thing, but with a hdmi cable we just transfer the show to the tv to watch when we need to (family viewing).... but most the junk on Amazon is just so gay central that it is not worth watching most the time. But if we do a search for a movie on Roku and it shows up as being on Amazon, we can watch it commercial free.

Just find an old used Win7 era box used somewhere...
Look for one that has an HDMI port on it, because then all you'll need is a network connection and a wireless KB/Glidepad... If it don't have HDMI on it you will need to buy a video card for it too, likely, though if it has DMI/DVI you can get an adapter...

But that's the whole setup... My current main Media box Is an old dell in a midsize tower that cost me nothing... Put a 2g vid card in it to get HDMI, put a USB wireless network card in it, and a USB wireless KB/Glidepad in it... Upgraded it to Win10 for free, and stuffed it in place. It also has a 4T back drive that holds my music and vid library, but that ain't necessary.

The whole thing, less the big drive out back, I don't think I am 100 bucks into it... Maybe somewhere between 50 and 75... It is super cheap - And since it is always on (I just shut off the TV, not the pooter) it serves my other TVs streaming from my pics, vid and music library, and also functions as a backup location.

And here's the fun part... I use my laptop quite often for looking around to see what I want to watch, and since both my laptop and the media machine are using the same sync'd Firefox account, all I have to do is rclick on something in my laptop browser, and select 'send to a device', and choose 'KEELER', which is that media machine, and just like that, it is there in my Firefox on the media machine to select as a tab.

So I don't hardly have to use the KB even, since if I am here, the laptop is always on anyhoo.

I just put a new mini-tower dell on the bedroom TV. In that one fifty bucks and a DMI to HDMI adapter... I5 box with 8g RAM, and it runs like a watch.

Only other thing to recommend, is hope to get one with Windows Pro on it, because then you can operate it as a remote desktop really easy too, which makes it easier to maintain when you need to, from a real station with a real KB/Mouse and a monitor up close.
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« Reply #425 on: June 06, 2021, 06:46:14 pm »
When my wife loses her multitude of Roku remotes, I control it from my Cell.

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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #426 on: June 06, 2021, 06:54:00 pm »
@Sighlass

Said all that and forgot what I meant to say in the first place - If you have a box wired to the TV that is signed into your browser sync (all three major browsers have a sync acct), any password that is in your laptop will also be in the media machine... So you can sign right on into that Amazon or Netflix account... Worst case, call your sis the first time you do, as they may mail her because it is a 'new' device trying to access, and she may need to approve.

That browser sync is pretty cool for passing everything between your devices. Any device I have, from my phone to my tablet, or my notebook, or any of my many machines can access everything the very same.

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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #427 on: June 06, 2021, 06:56:48 pm »
When my wife loses her multitude of Roku remotes, I control it from my Cell.

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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #428 on: June 07, 2021, 09:34:07 pm »
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Lol, it must hurt to see folks like me still running XP.... must admit, I have started to look around for a new computer. Did keep in mind your love of HP and see a lot of refurbished ones for sale.... I will one day rejoin the modern world... (but can't promise)...

P.S. thanks for the advice on your setup... not sure I will get that tech, but if I do, will probable get a setup with a freaking DvD player in it too, since over the years (and years and years) I have just burned all those movies I "borrowed" off the web (Mp4 and other formats), so I have about 300 or more DvDs with 4-7 movies on each of them.
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #429 on: June 07, 2021, 11:08:26 pm »
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Lol, it must hurt to see folks like me still running XP.... must admit, I have started to look around for a new computer. Did keep in mind your love of HP and see a lot of refurbished ones for sale.... I will one day rejoin the modern world... (but can't promise)...

P.S. thanks for the advice on your setup... not sure I will get that tech, but if I do, will probable get a setup with a freaking DvD player in it too, since over the years (and years and years) I have just burned all those movies I "borrowed" off the web (Mp4 and other formats), so I have about 300 or more DvDs with 4-7 movies on each of them.

Man, @Sighlass ... If you can keep them old dogs running, you can sure enough find an old win7 box or two for free in somebody's basement or closet, or for a few bucks at yard sales... I find em all the time. for nothing! and ANYTHING is going to be better than what you have by an order of magnitude...

Now, I know I am in the biz, but really, every business and every house dang near all of them, have a pile of old computers that busted somehow and they went and got another... Often there is nothing wrong that a reload won't fix... Often all they need is a hard drive or a vid or network card.... If you can't find an easy one, soon enough you'll have enough laying around for a frankenpooter.

Shoot, I will often walk off from some business closet somewhere with 5 or 6 machines to haul away - They PAY ME to haul em off. And most of em are fine.

If it is a decent Win7 box (hopefully Win7Pro), capable of an i5 or better cpu, 8 to 16 gigs of ram,SATA and PCIe, that's a plenty sweet ride for what you are doing. And they upgrade for free to Win10. Maybe you get lucky and find onboard HDMI and internal N series wireless... That's asking some, but who knows?

Keep your peepers out for em... Let folks know you are looking. Shoot, there's probably several to be had among your church fellowship. Hunt the yard sales and Sally Ann's... You know the game, I am sure. Surely you know a redneck geek down there, or one of your nephews or cousins that is handy that way...

As to the DVD thing, I still have a blue-ray in my main media box, and the one in the guest bedroom too - But they are incidentally present for a possible redbox rental, which you and me both know is never going to happen.

As to my library, that is all committed to hard drives now and has been for a decade. I don't think I have a CD or DVD left in the place.  :shrug:

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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #430 on: June 08, 2021, 12:08:43 am »
When my wife loses her multitude of Roku remotes, I control it from my Cell.

@Elderberry

The newest ROKU has a remote that beeps to let you know where it is when you are looking for it. All you have to do is ask your ROKU "Where the bleep is my bleeping bleeping remote?",and it will start beeping so you can go beat it for getting lost.

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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #431 on: June 08, 2021, 02:18:52 am »
I watched a Christian documentary.... really hit home some of the Southern Baptist doctrine changes that are taking place with the people in power. Very eye opening what the left will do to place themselves in power....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zoe6tNmRyk
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #432 on: June 08, 2021, 06:22:59 am »
I watched a Christian documentary.... really hit home some of the Southern Baptist doctrine changes that are taking place with the people in power. Very eye opening what the left will do to place themselves in power....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zoe6tNmRyk
They've been trying to do in the Roman Catholics for decades.
A number of other denominations have been compromised.
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #433 on: June 08, 2021, 10:06:15 am »
They've been trying to do in the Roman Catholics for decades.
A number of other denominations have been compromised.

They've been successful with the RC Church, too.  Look at the "Pope."  The Cards elected a Liberation Theology Jesuit from Argentina, so many RCs are now saying their Pope is no longer Catholic.  Electing the out-and-out communist as Pope has shaken the Membership to the core and split the Curch.
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« Reply #434 on: June 11, 2021, 08:07:56 pm »
@roamer_1

Lol, it must hurt to see folks like me still running XP.... must admit, I have started to look around for a new computer. Did keep in mind your love of HP and see a lot of refurbished ones for sale.... I will one day rejoin the modern world... (but can't promise)...

P.S. thanks for the advice on your setup... not sure I will get that tech, but if I do, will probable get a setup with a freaking DvD player in it too, since over the years (and years and years) I have just burned all those movies I "borrowed" off the web (Mp4 and other formats), so I have about 300 or more DvDs with 4-7 movies on each of them.
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I've had pretty good success with an HP. I have an HP laptop that so far has lasted me three years. The only problem was entirely my fault (smashing the screen, forcing me to run everything through the HDMI port and an external monitor, turning it into a desktop).

The most durable laptop I've ever owned was the Asus Eee PC, which I don't even know if they make that brand anymore. It was one of the last of the XP computers when I bought it in 2010 and if not for that, I'd probably still be using it. It's still sitting in a drawer somewhere (again, the screen was damaged).

Whatever you do, dude, don't get a Dell. They frequently break, wear down, and all in all don't last very long. I bought one for college on a three-year warranty and you would not believe the laundry list of times I had to go get it repaired for some problem or another.
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #435 on: June 11, 2021, 08:20:59 pm »
Re: computer brands

I've had pretty good success with an HP. I have an HP laptop that so far has lasted me three years. The only problem was entirely my fault (smashing the screen, forcing me to run everything through the HDMI port and an external monitor, turning it into a desktop).

The most durable laptop I've ever owned was the Asus Eee PC, which I don't even know if they make that brand anymore. It was one of the last of the XP computers when I bought it in 2010 and if not for that, I'd probably still be using it. It's still sitting in a drawer somewhere (again, the screen was damaged).

Whatever you do, dude, don't get a Dell. They frequently break, wear down, and all in all don't last very long. I bought one for college on a three-year warranty and you would not believe the laundry list of times I had to go get it repaired for some problem or another.

Durability in laptops... Right now I am on an HP Elitebook running an i7 and 16g or ram. Has a front SSD 240g, and a 2T rear drive (I took out the DVD and put a HDD there, so two hard drives).... 17" large form factor laptop.

One of the things you find out in business class laptops, they are WAY more durable (this one is in a stainless steel body) and way more configurable/update-able, having none of the low ram limitations (as an instance) of consumer products.

And that reaches right across the board - Doesn't matter if it is HP, Lenovo, Dell, etc... And the same in desktops - My whole herd is HP business class except for a lonely Dell (business class) that is my main media server and runs my main TV.

If you want good, long-lasting equipment, go business class. HP is a great contender, but any of them will do pretty well. Even used - This very machine can be found end of lease refurbed for 4 hundred and some. If a feller only has 500 to spend, I would rather see you get solid refurbs than mess with consumer grade.
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #436 on: June 11, 2021, 10:31:13 pm »
Durability in laptops... Right now I am on an HP Elitebook running an i7 and 16g or ram. Has a front SSD 240g, and a 2T rear drive (I took out the DVD and put a HDD there, so two hard drives).... 17" large form factor laptop.

One of the things you find out in business class laptops, they are WAY more durable (this one is in a stainless steel body) and way more configurable/update-able, having none of the low ram limitations (as an instance) of consumer products.

And that reaches right across the board - Doesn't matter if it is HP, Lenovo, Dell, etc... And the same in desktops - My whole herd is HP business class except for a lonely Dell (business class) that is my main media server and runs my main TV.

If you want good, long-lasting equipment, go business class. HP is a great contender, but any of them will do pretty well. Even used - This very machine can be found end of lease refurbed for 4 hundred and some. If a feller only has 500 to spend, I would rather see you get solid refurbs than mess with consumer grade.
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With the SSD it is noticeably faster, and now I don't have to worry as much about bumps. I've been running it (bought refurbed) for three years now. The first thing I'd recommend is replacing the drive with the solid state one, and then max out the memory, just to get the best performance out of it.
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #437 on: June 12, 2021, 12:12:45 am »
With the SSD it is noticeably faster, and now I don't have to worry as much about bumps. I've been running it (bought refurbed) for three years now. The first thing I'd recommend is replacing the drive with the solid state one, and then max out the memory, just to get the best performance out of it.

Absolutely on both counts. In fact, if you have an old machine, the very BEST way to get an eyebrow raising difference is replacing the drive with an SSD... Then RAM, and then upgrade the wifi/net... pretty much in that order.

But one caution: Back up. SSDs work, and then they don't. when they leave, they are pretty much gone. I seldom recover anything from a non-working SSD. And when SMART tells you they are reaching their write limit, don't dawdle. Take it very seriously.

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Even (or maybe even more) when traveling (which you tend to be) you need some bulletproof means in place.





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« Reply #438 on: June 12, 2021, 04:23:16 am »
Absolutely on both counts. In fact, if you have an old machine, the very BEST way to get an eyebrow raising difference is replacing the drive with an SSD... Then RAM, and then upgrade the wifi/net... pretty much in that order.

But one caution: Back up. SSDs work, and then they don't. when they leave, they are pretty much gone. I seldom recover anything from a non-working SSD. And when SMART tells you they are reaching their write limit, don't dawdle. Take it very seriously.

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around. In the end, backup is everything.

Even (or maybe even more) when traveling (which you tend to be) you need some bulletproof means in place.
Thanks for the advice. Keeping in mind that we don't all have the setup you do, what would you recommend for backup/recovery?
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #439 on: June 12, 2021, 07:15:06 am »
Thanks for the advice. Keeping in mind that we don't all have the setup you do, what would you recommend for backup/recovery?

If you are at home, and you have multiple machines, network access between them is KEY. Pick one that is to be 'Always On' And use that to serve the other machines... One of the things to serve, is as a place that is always there that all the other machines back up to.

I actually have two 'Always On' machines - One that is my file and backup server, and one that is my Media server. Since they are BOTH always on, one doing business stuff, and the other doing media stuff - they back up between themselves too - So I have a native backup, twice replicated onsite.

Something similar, but on a smaller scale would be an always on NAS or USB storage space - Both basically the same thing, one being a direct network appliance (probably faster and more bandwidth), and the one I will touch on here briefly, which is a standard USB external hard drive. Most modern routers have a USB port on them, and that is what it is for... To receive an exernal hard drive that will always be on, and will always be accessible from the local network.

With that in mind, with either a machine, or an appliance that is always on, any machine attached to your local LAN can have an automated means of backup, because when the backup program runs, the target location is sure to be there. You get the idea.

I am not a fan of imaging software for backup uses... It seems efficient, but the problem is, the entire backup is in a single file, and if that file is damaged, all of the backup is effected. If it is a raw copy software, every file in the backup routine is simply copied to the target location... If you get damage, you may lose some files,but not the whole thing. The native Windows backup solution is like an image - it is rather, a container file more like zip, but the same problem applies. Don't get me wrong, it is better than nothing, sure, but a raw file copier would serve you better.

I am still using Cobian even though it is not in development and has been sold... Cobian 'Gravity' the last version of the original program is still available and I really can find nothing better. And it is free, btw.

Another thing to consider for critical data - Now critical being a small subset, small enough to comfortably fit in what I am talking about - is the use of Microsoft's native cloud system... It is complicated if one desires not to log your machine onto microsoft every time and retain a local user (which is what you want), but if you have a Microsoft mail account, your machines can use something kinda like a roaming profile from Microsoft's cloud. I use this to keep my main desktop and my main laptop synchronized. That is everything in the profile - many Windows settings, desktop background, and three primary file locations : Desktop, Documents, and Pictures are kept sync'd between them always using Microsofts OneDrive...

This would be recommended for you, if you have lightweight critical data on the road - Because every time you log in to internet somewhere, those files are pumped up into the internet, and if your desktop at home is online all the time, automatically sync'd to your home from wherever you are. It is not worth it, at least to me, for backing my whole backup, but if you can manage with the free stuff you get with a Microsoft email account, Or better yet, if you are using an Office 365 subscription already (which gives you way more space to work with) This is hard to beat.

Also, both at home and on the road, I will return to a USB external drive - The same backup software can back up on demand too - Which means you can plug in a drive and manually run a backup job, and then unplug the drive when it is done... Nice to have a backup that is offline in case of some electrical failure or fire or whatnot... Grab the family Bible and the external drive and get the hell out... Especially on the road, where a daily backup to an external is an immediate and local-to-you backup regardless of cloud tricks and the vagaries of access to it.

And depending on your weight, don't forget thumb drives. If you have USB3 on your laptop, a USB3 thumb is a sufficient and highly portable solution. And they are getting huge and cheap. A 128g thumb is what, maybe fifty bucks? If you can live in that, it is way cheaper than an external drive of average size.

I will stop there and call it good. If any of it sounds like something you want to play with, I am always around to help out... or even write something up that is a little more grandular, if there is a demand.



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« Reply #440 on: June 12, 2021, 11:02:48 am »
Thanks for the advice. Keeping in mind that we don't all have the setup you do, what would you recommend for backup/recovery?

Backblaze. My wife and I both have it on our computers. My wife's laptop SSD failed, and I was able to go download the backup from Backblaze and she didn't lose anything. The house could burn to the ground and we'd still have her data.

For an offline solution, you can buy a hard drive dock and two drives (SSD are a good choice here too) and periodically back up to the drive and swap it out with the other one stored offsite somewhere (safety deposit box, for example). An alternative to the dock is just to buy two USB-3 enclosures and two SSD, and backup to and swap those.

If you just want to backup important documents, don't have hundreds of gigabytes of photos or other stuff, the free services like OneDrive or Dropbox are an option. But I prefer Backblaze because it gets everything except the stuff I tell it not to back up.
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« Reply #441 on: July 06, 2021, 07:28:28 am »
The most durable laptop I've ever owned was the Asus Eee PC, which I don't even know if they make that brand anymore. It was one of the last of the XP computers when I bought it in 2010 and if not for that, I'd probably still be using it. It's still sitting in a drawer somewhere (again, the screen was damaged).
On  a side note:

I pulled that Asus out of storage last night. I had backed up some of my files from even older desktops (including one that ran Windows 95!) on the Asus's internal hard drive. After some finagling to run the video output to the external port, wouldn't you know it? The darn thing DOES still work, and just as well as it did! It was fun going through all the old stuff I had saved on it; old programming projects, photos (which I promptly transferred to the black-box hard drive), music I had transcribed to MIDI... old comedy sketches I'd done as a teenager!
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« Reply #442 on: July 06, 2021, 05:04:30 pm »
On  a side note:

I pulled that Asus out of storage last night. I had backed up some of my files from even older desktops (including one that ran Windows 95!) on the Asus's internal hard drive. After some finagling to run the video output to the external port, wouldn't you know it? The darn thing DOES still work, and just as well as it did! It was fun going through all the old stuff I had saved on it; old programming projects, photos (which I promptly transferred to the black-box hard drive), music I had transcribed to MIDI... old comedy sketches I'd done as a teenager!


I had a stripped down eeepc as a test bed machine for years... It finally ended up doing nothing but setting up routers and testing/bridging modems... I finally scrapped it because I couldn't kill it. Surprising performance from a bang-for-buck box. But then, I like ASUS generally or did... Been one of three boards I have supported all the way along (ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte). I spend most of my time on business class HP these days.

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« Reply #443 on: September 02, 2021, 02:12:33 pm »
Arrrrgh!  Locast is shut down, where I'd been getting local TV channel feeds.  Are there any suggestions?
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« Reply #444 on: September 02, 2021, 05:24:49 pm »
Arrrrgh!  Locast is shut down, where I'd been getting local TV channel feeds.  Are there any suggestions?

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Buy an antenna. I have a 40 dollar RCA outside antenna that MIGHT weigh 3 lbs that picks up 40+ broadcast stations,and the closest one is almost 50 miles away. Had tv channels back in the pre-sat days,and only thought there were a total of 5 channels.

I have mine hooked to my ROKU so I can catch local news and weather. I also like to watch the old black and white oldies like the original "Twilight Zone" and "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" on it.
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« Reply #445 on: September 02, 2021, 05:27:52 pm »
Arrrrgh!  Locast is shut down, where I'd been getting local TV channel feeds.  Are there any suggestions?

Have you tried ustvgo.tv?

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« Reply #446 on: September 02, 2021, 08:41:43 pm »
Have you tried ustvgo.tv?

Doesn't have the off-channels I like, like MeTv, Retro and Comet.   :shrug:

I have trouble with antenna TeeVee because the nearest big city is Las Vegas, and the signals from there are for shit.  Maybe I can get a better antenna?

Oh well....no more Svengoolie for me.  :crying:
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #447 on: September 02, 2021, 10:07:59 pm »
Doesn't have the off-channels I like, like MeTv, Retro and Comet.   :shrug:

I have trouble with antenna TeeVee because the nearest big city is Las Vegas, and the signals from there are for shit.  Maybe I can get a better antenna?

Oh well....no more Svengoolie for me.  :crying:
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #448 on: September 20, 2021, 01:17:44 pm »
OK. Here's my situation.  I have around 24MPS internet bandwidth available most of the time. ATT Uverse Bundled with digital landlines and Direct TV for television programing. Cost is $200+ per month)

There are three TVs, several computers, and smart devices in use here wirelessly connected.

In the near future it is likely that I will be able to have fiber service (100MPS for $69 per month)

1. What is my best option for replacing direct TV in my current situation?

2. Should I forget that and wait for the fiber?

3. What would be my best option (least costly) for replacing the programming I currently get from direct TV?  I do not want to have subscriptions for multiple streaming services and do not want to put up an antenna to get local channels.


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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #449 on: September 20, 2021, 02:20:21 pm »
I never did DirectTV... :shrug:
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