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« Reply #100 on: August 17, 2017, 09:18:59 pm »
I went up in the attic to see what kinda antenna I'm using. It has Thomson ant537 printed on it. I've had it for quite a few years now. Works good. I'm in the city though and last time I did a channel search the tv came back with too many damn channels. I think its sold as a RCA item. Don't know if you can still get it. That model at least.

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« Reply #102 on: August 19, 2017, 01:36:44 pm »
Mine just came today.  What a waist of money.  I got even less channels than with my 15 dollar Walmart bought one I was using.    I don't want to return it to Amazon so I hooked it up to a TV in the "Lets put everything that doesn't match anything room".

If you see this one.  Don't buy it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06X9WM8XR/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I had to move to an apartment a couple of years ago, I tried those flat amplified antennas and they just couldn't cut it, too far from the transmitters and obstruction from the second story apartments. I went to an 80 mile outdoor antenna, Amazons 1byone
 https://www.amazon.com/1byone-Digital-Amplified-Extremely-Performance/dp/B00ZI9LWS2/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1503163894&sr=1-2&keywords=80+mile+range+tv+antenna
Put it on a ten foot stick of EMT and  I can get all the majors including PBS and of course the ones that come in best are the Spanish, Korean, Vietnamese and sellucraps, but it's been pretty bulletproof.

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« Reply #103 on: August 19, 2017, 02:33:38 pm »
I had to move to an apartment a couple of years ago, I tried those flat amplified antennas and they just couldn't cut it, too far from the transmitters and obstruction from the second story apartments. I went to an 80 mile outdoor antenna, Amazons 1byone
 https://www.amazon.com/1byone-Digital-Amplified-Extremely-Performance/dp/B00ZI9LWS2/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1503163894&sr=1-2&keywords=80+mile+range+tv+antenna
Put it on a ten foot stick of EMT and  I can get all the majors including PBS and of course the ones that come in best are the Spanish, Korean, Vietnamese and sellucraps, but it's been pretty bulletproof.


Darn. 29.99.   Might give that a go  I can mount it on my Direct TV dish poll.

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« Reply #105 on: August 26, 2017, 04:10:11 pm »
http://cordcuttersnews.com/amazon-ramping-original-programming/
Good. I have been looking for the 3rd season of Man in the High Castle. Interesting show.
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« Reply #106 on: August 26, 2017, 04:12:12 pm »
Good. I have been looking for the 3rd season of Man in the High Castle. Interesting show.


Same here... I'm hoping that Amazon picks up Oasis.  But the reality is this. We are seeing a change in how TV is being viewed and it is for the good imho.
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« Reply #107 on: August 26, 2017, 04:13:31 pm »

Same here... I'm hoping that Amazon picks up Oasis.  But the reality is this. We are seeing a change in how TV is being viewed and it is for the good imho.
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« Reply #108 on: August 26, 2017, 04:19:11 pm »
I had to move to an apartment a couple of years ago, I tried those flat amplified antennas and they just couldn't cut it, too far from the transmitters and obstruction from the second story apartments. I went to an 80 mile outdoor antenna, Amazons 1byone
 https://www.amazon.com/1byone-Digital-Amplified-Extremely-Performance/dp/B00ZI9LWS2/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1503163894&sr=1-2&keywords=80+mile+range+tv+antenna
Put it on a ten foot stick of EMT and  I can get all the majors including PBS and of course the ones that come in best are the Spanish, Korean, Vietnamese and sellucraps, but it's been pretty bulletproof.


Looks like quite an antenna for a great price. With that many directors, its going to be quite directional.

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« Reply #111 on: August 30, 2017, 07:23:45 pm »
I had to move to an apartment a couple of years ago, I tried those flat amplified antennas and they just couldn't cut it, too far from the transmitters and obstruction from the second story apartments. I went to an 80 mile outdoor antenna, Amazons 1byone
 https://www.amazon.com/1byone-Digital-Amplified-Extremely-Performance/dp/B00ZI9LWS2/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1503163894&sr=1-2&keywords=80+mile+range+tv+antenna
Put it on a ten foot stick of EMT and  I can get all the majors including PBS and of course the ones that come in best are the Spanish, Korean, Vietnamese and sellucraps, but it's been pretty bulletproof.


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« Reply #112 on: August 30, 2017, 08:01:47 pm »
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Did you stick it out the window, or what?
Fortunately I live on the first floor, can't deal with stairs, and have a patio. Even with the obstruction of second floor units I have the antenna on a ten foot stick of EMT and can orient it well enough with the transmitters that I almost always have uninterrupted reception, probably be bulletproof another ten feet up. The indoor antennas are worthless unless you are reasonably close to the transmitter and have an unobstructed exposure, at least in my experience.

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« Reply #115 on: August 31, 2017, 04:25:53 pm »
Egg-cellent!  I hope cable and satellite starve to death.
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« Reply #116 on: August 31, 2017, 05:17:06 pm »
I've been thinking about where all this leads (form an economics bent).

Let's say along with the big channels, $50/mon of my cable bill is for 100 channels, or 50 cents each.  Maybe I watch five of them, and subsidize 95.  But any of those channels also has viewers that are subsidizing my channels.

Now we move to ala carte.  To make up for the subsidies, my channels would need to charge me a lot more.  Assuming markets are rational [a theory I'll butcher in a moment], it should come to ABOUT $10/mon each. [I emphasize 'about' because I'm skipping a few details here that some will recognize, but I think for discussion's sake $10 is close enough].

Once consumers see that price, I think many will drop one or more channels (further driving prices up to make up for lost revenue).  Yes, I'm saying that a consumer who is willing to pay $50/mon for five channels will not be willing to pay $50/mon for five channels.

So, say goodbye to the SciFi channel (and hundreds of others only viewed by a small percentage of viewers).

Who wins?  Well, the big networks now have a lot less competition.  Also I think people will turn to homemade video, internet content, social media, etc.  Actually reading a book or talking to your family -- not so much.  So we get rid of the decent but not great production quality channels (the middle class?) and replace it with more on the high end and more on the low end ("income" inequality?).

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« Reply #117 on: August 31, 2017, 06:11:03 pm »
I've been thinking about where all this leads (form an economics bent).

Let's say along with the big channels, $50/mon of my cable bill is for 100 channels, or 50 cents each.  Maybe I watch five of them, and subsidize 95.  But any of those channels also has viewers that are subsidizing my channels.

Now we move to ala carte.  To make up for the subsidies, my channels would need to charge me a lot more.  Assuming markets are rational [a theory I'll butcher in a moment], it should come to ABOUT $10/mon each. [I emphasize 'about' because I'm skipping a few details here that some will recognize, but I think for discussion's sake $10 is close enough].

Once consumers see that price, I think many will drop one or more channels (further driving prices up to make up for lost revenue).  Yes, I'm saying that a consumer who is willing to pay $50/mon for five channels will not be willing to pay $50/mon for five channels.

So, say goodbye to the SciFi channel (and hundreds of others only viewed by a small percentage of viewers).

Who wins?  Well, the big networks now have a lot less competition.  Also I think people will turn to homemade video, internet content, social media, etc.  Actually reading a book or talking to your family -- not so much.  So we get rid of the decent but not great production quality channels (the middle class?) and replace it with more on the high end and more on the low end ("income" inequality?).

Or not.
As long as we are batting ideas about, I can see sports channel consolidation, or network channels offering a range (Fox with business, sports, news, adding an entertainment channel or two and selling that package). I can see the clusters of channels getting smaller, but will that mean more variety in clusters of channels, or will it mean every group will try to be 'the one' you subscribe to, with their smaller variety of related channels? That could put things like TBS, TNT, together with CNN and an 'old shows' network in one clump, NatGeo, Sci, Discovery in another cluster with their own news channel, or add in a weather channel on any of them (there are a few different ones, some just local).
I'm not sure some of the more special interest nets would go away, just get folded in and the whole package thing happen on a smaller scale. In fact, that's where I think things will likely go, and the bigger groups like OWN may have a variety of packages which support their lesser feeds to keep those alive and pad out the package.

While the channel packs may get smaller and even more specialized, I think they will try to give a cluster of channels with a little broader appeal in order to pull more people in and give the appearance of giving more for  the price of that smaller package than just one channel for 7 or 10 bucks a month.

Face it, there are few channels out there that people are going to want to shell ten bucks a month for that aren't offering premium content, and even the movie channels go flat after a month or two because of repetition. It would not take long to watch all the 4+ star IMDB 5 or higher movies or shows on any one offering group, and you can only watch so much mediocre TV.

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« Reply #118 on: August 31, 2017, 06:24:02 pm »

While the channel packs may get smaller and even more specialized, I think they will try to give a cluster of channels with a little broader appeal in order to pull more people in and give the appearance of giving more for  the price of that smaller package than just one channel for 7 or 10 bucks a month.


Could be.  I think the advertisers will look at the smaller pool of potential viewers and be willing to pay less, and subscribers will not be willing to make up the difference by paying more.  I could be way off base here, I have no idea how much revenue comes from each, or what people are willing to pay.

What I'm pretty certain of is that if ala carte pricing does take off, it's not going to be 'everything's the same but I only pay for what I want to pay for'.
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« Reply #119 on: August 31, 2017, 06:50:51 pm »
The argument should be whether it is worth paying for at all.
TV was free for most of it's life, with the cost being borne by advertisers.

Cable changed that dynamic, getting it's revenue coming and going, with bundling protecting garbage programming, and enabling indoctrination and poorer and poorer programming...

The value to day in real programming is far inferior to TV in it's heyday.
In fact, I am paying them exactly what they deserve. Nothing at all.

Hooray, I say. I hope they are driven into the ground. for the colossal waste of intellect that it is.

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« Reply #120 on: August 31, 2017, 06:55:58 pm »
And, why am I paying for TV AND commercials?

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« Reply #121 on: August 31, 2017, 07:14:12 pm »
Could be.  I think the advertisers will look at the smaller pool of potential viewers and be willing to pay less, and subscribers will not be willing to make up the difference by paying more.  I could be way off base here, I have no idea how much revenue comes from each, or what people are willing to pay.

What I'm pretty certain of is that if ala carte pricing does take off, it's not going to be 'everything's the same but I only pay for what I want to pay for'.
I think you are right about pricing, and it could mean a golden age for TV--or not. If a network has a 'hot' show, or more than one, they will be more expensive.
I think the less appealing will have a lower price range.

What that will eventually mean is that the 'firstest with the mostest' will get fatter, faster, to stay that way. and I think that is already happening in the current competition between providers like Amazon for hot shows.  For writers/actors it is a golden age because there will be more competition for hot show ideas and good writing/acting/production/editing/CGI to pull those ideas from concept to a hit.

I can also see the hottest YouTube channels going commercial on their own if they can keep the material fresh.
And I can forsee a 'no commercials' option at a premium, too. (surcharge, whatever).
Considering the average cable subscriber is already paying for 1/4 or more of their airtime (although usually in the middle of the night) to be infomercials (which pay both ways, subscriber and advertiser both chip in), the no commercial option will come at a price, likely 12 hour programming that repeats.
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« Reply #122 on: August 31, 2017, 07:14:39 pm »
And, why am I paying for TV AND commercials?

Answer #1:  Because the companies have determined that the current combination of about 1/3 ads and 2/3 content maximizes their revenue.  You could have 100% content, but for a higher price, and they don't think you'll pay that.

Answer #2:  I don't know, it's your money, why are YOU paying.... (really just another form of answer #1).
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« Reply #123 on: August 31, 2017, 07:28:24 pm »
I think you are right about pricing, and it could mean a golden age for TV--or not. If a network has a 'hot' show, or more than one, they will be more expensive.
I think the less appealing will have a lower price range.


But, isn't a network just a very small package?

Technology is (has) taking us to a place where (for those not using free legacy OTA connections exclusively) networks aren't required.  You could subscribe to an individual show, or even just pay per episode.

And now that the blatantly obvious has just hit me in the face, isn't Amazon Prime (the TV/movie part) just a network with video on demand?  Or, IOW, a package?  Meet the new boss?
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« Reply #124 on: August 31, 2017, 07:37:47 pm »
But, isn't a network just a very small package?

Technology is (has) taking us to a place where (for those not using free legacy OTA connections exclusively) networks aren't required.  You could subscribe to an individual show, or even just pay per episode.

And now that the blatantly obvious has just hit me in the face, isn't Amazon Prime (the TV/movie part) just a network with video on demand?  Or, IOW, a package?  Meet the new boss?
Precisely, Prime, Hulu, Any of the streaming services essentially offer packages and premium channels/PPV movies, etc. as well. Prime just comes with free shipping on a lot of stuff.
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« Reply #125 on: August 31, 2017, 09:33:57 pm »
And, why am I paying for TV AND commercials?

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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #126 on: September 04, 2017, 12:15:46 pm »
   Been putting off for months, reinstalling KODI (v 17.4), I'm a bit of a Techie and it is a Bitch to configure, but well worth the 3 hours to cram it into a Win10 box and seems stable also.

   link to program:

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« Reply #127 on: September 04, 2017, 12:30:32 pm »
Egg-cellent!  I hope cable and satellite starve to death.


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« Reply #128 on: September 04, 2017, 12:55:32 pm »
As long as we are batting ideas about, I can see sports channel consolidation, or network channels offering a range (Fox with business, sports, news, adding an entertainment channel or two and selling that package). I can see the clusters of channels getting smaller, but will that mean more variety in clusters of channels, or will it mean every group will try to be 'the one' you subscribe to, with their smaller variety of related channels? That could put things like TBS, TNT, together with CNN and an 'old shows' network in one clump, NatGeo, Sci, Discovery in another cluster with their own news channel, or add in a weather channel on any of them (there are a few different ones, some just local).
I'm not sure some of the more special interest nets would go away, just get folded in and the whole package thing happen on a smaller scale. In fact, that's where I think things will likely go, and the bigger groups like OWN may have a variety of packages which support their lesser feeds to keep those alive and pad out the package.

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Face it, there are few channels out there that people are going to want to shell ten bucks a month for that aren't offering premium content, and even the movie channels go flat after a month or two because of repetition. It would not take long to watch all the 4+ star IMDB 5 or higher movies or shows on any one offering group, and you can only watch so much mediocre TV.


That could happen.  The reality is this, I was spending $100 for just a few channels and to top it off, I was paying for the infomercials, and very very obscure channels that will fade away.
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« Reply #129 on: September 04, 2017, 01:17:38 pm »
   Been putting off for months, reinstalling KODI (v 17.4), I'm a bit of a Techie and it is a Bitch to configure, but well worth the 3 hours to cram it into a Win10 box and seems stable also.

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   There are plenty of youtube videos on how to configure it.

Wait... you went to the trouble of installing Kodi... and then you chose to put it on a Win10 box?

...Why?

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« Reply #130 on: September 04, 2017, 02:57:25 pm »

That could happen.  The reality is this, I was spending $100 for just a few channels and to top it off, I was paying for the infomercials, and very very obscure channels that will fade away.
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« Reply #131 on: September 04, 2017, 02:58:26 pm »
Wait... you went to the trouble of installing Kodi... and then you chose to put it on a Win10 box?

...Why?

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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #132 on: September 04, 2017, 03:40:06 pm »
Curious, but why not?

JMHO, but Win10 sucks.  Kodi would be much happier on a little Linux box. In fact, there are Linux distros preconfigured to run Kodi, including versions that run on the Raspberry Pi.   :shrug:
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« Reply #133 on: September 04, 2017, 03:45:25 pm »
Also, an FYI.. Do not get a Smart TV (at least a Samsung one).
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #134 on: September 04, 2017, 03:47:16 pm »
JMHO, but Win10 sucks.  Kodi would be much happier on a little Linux box. In fact, there are Linux distros preconfigured to run Kodi, including versions that run on the Raspberry Pi.   :shrug:
I haven't run the machine yet, but that is what I have heard about Win10. I was wondering if there were other reasons. Unfortunately, I can't authenticate the still wrapped versions I have of XP anyway, and the other software out there forces an update to something new. I still have a bunch of XP machines. Never moved 'up' to Vista, 7, or the 8s. Vista was a nevermind, 7 didn't seem to do much XP couldn't that I needed done, anyway, and the 8s were cussed out of the box. That means, though the computers I am running are getting like the B-52 fleet.
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #135 on: September 04, 2017, 03:57:53 pm »
I haven't run the machine yet, but that is what I have heard about Win10. I was wondering if there were other reasons. Unfortunately, I can't authenticate the still wrapped versions I have of XP anyway, and the other software out there forces an update to something new. I still have a bunch of XP machines. Never moved 'up' to Vista, 7, or the 8s. Vista was a nevermind, 7 didn't seem to do much XP couldn't that I needed done, anyway, and the 8s were cussed out of the box. That means, though the computers I am running are getting like the B-52 fleet.

I held onto XP on my home system as long as I could, but finally had to upgrade to 7 as too many new applications no longer supported XP.  That being said, 7 will probably be the last version of Windows that I run at home, as I dislike both 8 and 10.
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #136 on: September 04, 2017, 05:15:04 pm »
Also, an FYI.. Do not get a Smart TV (at least a Samsung one).

Yeah. I have one. I can't believe how much bandwidth it took from my router! Finally pissed it off by declaring it needed a fixed IP and then gave it an IP to nowhere. So it's busted. Now, with a standard windows computer hooked up to the tv (in tv mode), it uses tons less bandwidth.

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« Reply #137 on: September 04, 2017, 09:06:25 pm »
Aren't the Samsung Smart TVs the ones that have all the spying tech in them?
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« Reply #138 on: September 04, 2017, 09:16:21 pm »
Aren't the Samsung Smart TVs the ones that have all the spying tech in them?


I think so, however, the problem is that they don't get updated.
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« Reply #139 on: September 04, 2017, 11:57:20 pm »

I think so, however, the problem is that they don't get updated.

They sure don't when they don't have network... Works for me.

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« Reply #140 on: September 05, 2017, 12:17:33 am »
   I was in the PC Business till Win 10 came out, Retired.
   I had an old dual core with Win10 locked in (no win 7 number) sitting around and decided to try it, It suxs. 
   But my ol lady gets lost in youtube videos for hours and I am one happy camper, sans Linux.

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« Reply #141 on: September 05, 2017, 01:03:46 am »
   I was in the PC Business till Win 10 came out, Retired.
   I had an old dual core with Win10 locked in (no win 7 number) sitting around and decided to try it, It suxs. 
   But my ol lady gets lost in youtube videos for hours and I am one happy camper, sans Linux.

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@corbe ...Ah, Win10 is alright, once you get all the spyware crap shut off, and if you use a local user...

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« Reply #142 on: September 05, 2017, 01:11:04 am »
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   I still work on Win10 boxes, I always throw Classic Shell on first, It was time to retire for me, anyway, even had they called it Win 9.
   Do hope I'm still here for Win 12 or Broken Windows, whatever their brilliant Marketing department can come up with to sell the crap.
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #144 on: October 10, 2017, 11:25:50 am »
I just discovered a new app on Roku and Amazon Fire (can't find it on Apple TV). Pluto TV. It has hundreds of channels combined into one with a launchpad and a schedule bar very similar to a cable box so you can see what's on. It isn't just junk channels either. They have a lot of great news channels like Sky TV and Newsmax. Plus, they stream a lot of network affiliate channels from around the country (CBS/ABC/NBC).  You can also browse the guide to see what's on while watching a show in a sub window. And.. it is free.  It just has ads, but so far, they aren't constant annoyances.


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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #145 on: October 10, 2017, 11:38:50 am »
Wait... you went to the trouble of installing Kodi... and then you chose to put it on a Win10 box?

...Why?

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Why not?

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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #147 on: October 10, 2017, 11:52:25 am »
Asked, answered.

I find Windows 10 perfectly usable, use it every day at work.

I also use a number of Linux machines.

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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #148 on: October 10, 2017, 11:59:47 am »
I find Windows 10 perfectly usable, use it every day at work.

I also use a number of Linux machines.

Just because it's usable does not mean it doesn't suck, and it doesn't mean that it would be the best (or even a decent) choice for hosting a Kodi install. When I set up Kodi (or similar program) at home it will most likely be on a Linux box. But everyone has their preferences, I'm not looking to reignite an OS discussion on a thread which should be about cord cutting.
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Re: Cordcutting Thread
« Reply #149 on: October 10, 2017, 12:01:45 pm »
Just because it's usable does not mean it doesn't suck,

Well no, it doesn't suck either, maybe not your cup of tea, but it works well if you know what you're doing.

Same with Linux.