Trump puts Bannon on security council, dropping joint chiefs

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38787241

[Victoria33]

From article:
"The director of national intelligence and the joint chiefs will attend when discussions pertain to their areas.  Under previous administrations, the director and joint chiefs attended all meetings of the NSC's inner circle, the principals' committee.
@Weird Tolkienish Figure."
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From me:  Sure, why would anyone want the joint chiefs of the military present when talking about NATIONAL SECURITY.  The joint chiefs, however, have been put  on the Rose Garden Committee to oversee the roses.  (Sarcasm)

[ABX]

So Bannon is becoming Trump's Valerie Jarrett.

[DCPatriot]

So Bannon is becoming Trump's Valerie Jarrett.

He just likes his ear.   And his eye.  What's wrong with that?

This way, nothing is lost in the translation?

[goatprairie]

He just likes his ear.   And his eye.  What's wrong with that?

This way, nothing is lost in the translation?

And Bannon is qualified to advise on national security how? Because he ran a "conservative" website and called the media bad names?

[DCPatriot]

And Bannon is qualified to advise on national security how? Because he ran a "conservative" website and called the media bad names?

He obviously trusts his judgment and opinion.  From strictly a layman's POV as opposed to a military POV.

I don't think Bannon's opinion weighs heavier than any of the other dozen minds offering theirs.

All I'm saying is that it's good to have a close person who has a photographic memory, that you can call 24/7.  Trump's had such a person since he started.

[jpsb]

And Bannon is qualified to advise on national security how? Because he ran a "conservative" website and called the media bad names?

Stephen K. Bannon, a conservative business mogul best known for his work as chairman of the Breitbart News website, spent seven years in the Navy as a surface warfare officer. His military career included a stint at the Pentagon, where he served as a special assistant to the Navy's top admiral.

http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/trumps-controversial-new-adviser-promoted-conservatism-even-in-the-navy

[DCPatriot]

Stephen K. Bannon, a conservative business mogul best known for his work as chairman of the Breitbart News website, spent seven years in the Navy as a surface warfare officer. His military career included a stint at the Pentagon, where he served as a special assistant to the Navy's top admiral.

http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/trumps-controversial-new-adviser-promoted-conservatism-even-in-the-navy

Thanks for posting that, @jpsb

I'm just not going to get excited or outraged one way or the other. 

Some members apparently look for anything that they feel puts Trump in a bad light or on defense.

This isn't one of them.

[andy58-in-nh]

One has to be very careful in today's world to read beyond the headlines.

In truth, and as a full reading of the news reveals, President Trump did not "drop" the JCS, but rather chose to include his chief strategist in their discussions. Mr. Bannon clearly has experience as a military officer, which makes the decision at least sensible.

I hold no brief for Mr. Bannon, some of whose opinions I have found offensive. But when as in this instance, headlines are used as a thinly veiled means of attack, it is incumbent on all readers to get the facts for themselves.

[jpsb]

Thanks for posting that, @jpsb

I'm just not going to get excited or outraged one way or the other. 

Some members apparently look for anything that they feel puts Trump in a bad light or on defense.

This isn't one of them.

@DCPatriot

What conservatives should realize is that ever since Zero we (regular middle/working class Americans) are engaged in an all out war with the globalist Marxists in the Democrat Party and the globalist Neocons in the Republican Party. These folks nick picking Trump every move are siding with the Marxists/Neocons over regular Americans. A little constructive criticism I can understand but all this fake outrage is ridiculous. We are at war and we will not win if we can not unite behind our leaders. The Rats know this and that is why they and their ally the media are doing everything it can to keep us and the country as divided as possible. 

[mystery-ak]

McCain blasts Bannon placement on National Security Council


McCain blasts Bannon placement on National Security Council

By Burgess Everett

01/29/17 11:52 AM EST


John McCain is harshly criticizing the elevation of White House strategist Stephen Bannon to President Donald Trump's National Security Council, calling the move "radical" because it minimizes the role of the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff.

“I am worried about the National Security Council. Who are the members of it and who are the permanent members? The appointment of Mr. Bannon is something which is a radical departure from any National Security Council in history," McCain said on "Face the Nation" on CBS on Sunday morning.

more
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/mccain-bannon-nsc-234329

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@DCPatriot

What conservatives should realize is that ever since Zero we (regular middle/working class Americans) are engaged in an all out war with the globalist Marxists in the Democrat Party and the globalist Neocons in the Republican Party. These folks nick picking Trump every move are siding with the Marxists/Neocons over regular Americans. A little constructive criticism I can understand but all this fake outrage is ridiculous. We are at war and we will not win if we can not unite behind our leaders. The Rats know this and that is why they and their ally the media are doing everything it can to keep us and the country as divided as possible.

Globalist Marxist Neocons blah blah blah.


You sound like a complete idiot.

[jpsb]

Globalist Marxist Neocons blah blah blah.


You sound like a complete idiot.

Are you ever right about anything?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Are you ever right about anything?

A little self-reflection might do you good. Read the verbal diarrhea you spewed out loud and report back to me.

[jpsb]

A little self-reflection might do you good. Read the verbal diarrhea you spewed out loud and report back to me.

LOL, you know what they say about pigs so I am not going to get into the mud with you. Bye. 

[geronl]

Stephen K. Bannon, a conservative business mogul best known for his work as chairman of the Breitbart News website, spent seven years in the Navy as a surface warfare officer. His military career included a stint at the Pentagon, where he served as a special assistant to the Navy's top admiral.

he once made an Admirals coffee, that makes him qualified for anything,

[truth_seeker]

@DCPatriot

What conservatives should realize is that ever since Zero we (regular middle/working class Americans) are engaged in an all out war with the globalist Marxists in the Democrat Party and the globalist Neocons in the Republican Party. These folks nick picking Trump every move are siding with the Marxists/Neocons over regular Americans. A little constructive criticism I can understand but all this fake outrage is ridiculous. We are at war and we will not win if we can not unite behind our leaders. The Rats know this and that is why they and their ally the media are doing everything it can to keep us and the country as divided as possible.

And not a few on this forum, jumping at every chance to voice their #nevertrump-SJW tendencies.

Often well before learning enough of the facts, to not make fools of themselves.

BTW entries by designated non-citizens HAVE BEEN BLOCKED before, most recently during the just completed Obama admin.

Don't rely on the media to inform you accurately from the outset, however.

 

[jpsb]

he once made an Admirals coffee, that makes him qualified for anything,

@geronl

I'm sure the admiral had a good looking Chief Petty officer for that.

[EC]

And not a few on this forum, jumping at every chance to voice their #nevertrump-SJW tendencies.

Often well before learning enough of the facts, to not make fools of themselves.

Steve Bannon is Trump's POLITICAL strategist, responsible for making Trump look good.

Are you OK with political considerations being included in national security discussions and decisions? Had enough of that crap in the last 8 years.

[jpsb]

Steve Bannon is Trump's POLITICAL strategist, responsible for making Trump look good.

Are you OK with political considerations being included in national security discussions and decisions? Had enough of that crap in the last 8 years.

You have no idea of his role, he was a respected naval officer for 7 years. Let's see how this plays out before having a tantrum.

[truth_seeker]

Steve Bannon is Trump's POLITICAL strategist, responsible for making Trump look good.

Are you OK with political considerations being included in national security discussions and decisions? Had enough of that crap in the last 8 years.

I am way okay with political considerations being involved, regarding National Security.

One shortcoming for the US in recent conflicts has been the inability to "sell" the justification.

Hence withdrawals from Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan BEFORE unconditional surrender was won.

Maybe lives could be saved/spared and wars actually fought to completion, if better political strategy played a proper roll.

[ABX]

Can you imagine what our side would be screaming if Obama got rid of the Joint Chiefs and put Valerie Jarrett in their place.

[geronl]

Soon enough we might have Political Officers in every part of the military...

[geronl]

One shortcoming for the US in recent conflicts has been the inability to "sell" the justification

That is not the job of the National Security Council.

[ABX]

That is not the job of the National Security Council.

Correct. The National Security Council and the Joint Chief's primary role is to advise on current military capability, deployment, and intelligence. They are not a marketing organization.

Someone who hasn't served in almost 40 years and spent more time writing Hollywood sitcoms is in no position to advise on current capability or intelligence.

Every day, we are seeing what appears to be the Peter Principle in action. Meet the new administration, same as the old administration.