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« Reply #100 on: April 24, 2017, 07:47:39 pm »
Meanwhile the Twins pitcher who hit Tigers batter Jacoby Jones in the mouth with a fastball wasn't ejected. Then Detroit pitcher Matt Boyd hit Miguel Sano in the ass causing Sano to throw a punch at McCann leading to and Boyd and Sano being ejected.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=19220819

There's a reason why the Twins pitcher who hit Jones didn't get ejected. He wasn't trying to throw at him.
If you saw his reaction as he saw the pitch hit Jones, he looked too obviously distraught over it. I'm not
a lip reader but it looked like "oh sh@t no!" came out of his mouth as he spun around the mound
grabbing his head in embarrassment. That's not the act of a guy who's looking to deck a hitter.


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« Reply #101 on: April 24, 2017, 08:29:40 pm »
There's a reason why the Twins pitcher who hit Jones didn't get ejected. He wasn't trying to throw at him.
If you saw his reaction as he saw the pitch hit Jones, he looked too obviously distraught over it. I'm not
a lip reader but it looked like "oh sh@t no!" came out of his mouth as he spun around the mound
grabbing his head in embarrassment. That's not the act of a guy who's looking to deck a hitter.

There was also no good reason for Boyd to get tossed. No warnings had been issued and Boyd was having severe control issues anyway. Even without debating intent, no one would have been ejected without Sano's reaction. Had Sano just taken his base he could have grumbled about it to Boyd all the way down the baseline and let it go, the game would have continued.

The craziest ejection I ever saw was Mike Maroth (Pitching for the Tigers against the Twins) getting tossed while facing the first batter of the game. However that one did come with a pregame warning from the brawl the previous day that led to something like 9 players ejected.

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« Reply #102 on: April 24, 2017, 09:20:11 pm »
There was also no good reason for Boyd to get tossed. No warnings had been issued and Boyd was having severe control issues anyway.

Right there said it all. But beware: just grumbling up the base line is sometimes enough to start a brawl.

The craziest ejection I ever saw was Mike Maroth (Pitching for the Tigers against the Twins) getting tossed while facing the first batter of the game. However that one did come with a pregame warning from the brawl the previous day that led to something like 9 players ejected.

How about the one that began between the Padres and the Braves in August 1984 that began when Pascual Perez
drilled Alan Wiggins on the game's first pitch? That started an evening of multiple brushbacks and three brawls
before it ended.


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« Reply #103 on: April 25, 2017, 08:38:20 pm »
Tigers are tearing it up tonight with all their minor league call ups.

currently 7-2 over Seattle in the top of the 5th without Miggy, JD Martinez, Iglesias, and Jacoby Jones.

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« Reply #104 on: April 25, 2017, 09:01:25 pm »
OK that's weird.

No pitch intentional walk to Avila.

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« Reply #105 on: April 25, 2017, 09:08:08 pm »
OK that's weird.

No pitch intentional walk to Avila.

I don't like the no pitch intentional walk.  Worst rule change in decades.
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Re: BASEBALL 2017---Bring it On!!!
« Reply #106 on: April 25, 2017, 09:09:38 pm »
I don't like the no pitch intentional walk.  Worst rule change in decades.

Im guessing the Mariners are wishing this inning would end. 12-4 14-4 16-4 in the bottom of the 5th.
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« Reply #107 on: April 25, 2017, 09:13:04 pm »
Biggest inning of the year for the Tigers. 9 runs scored.
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« Reply #108 on: April 26, 2017, 08:23:05 am »
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

The idea that somebody looked at a purple onion and called it a red onion really bothers me.   

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« Reply #109 on: April 26, 2017, 08:32:24 am »
Good thing the Tiger bats were hot last night because the defense was not spectacular.

Despite being beaten by 10 runs, the Mariners still managed to score 9 runs themselves.

Most impressive from the Tigers was taking out "King" Hernandez in 2 innings.

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« Reply #110 on: April 26, 2017, 10:13:32 am »
I don't like the no pitch intentional walk.  Worst rule change in decades.

Here's the Top 5 in my lifetime

1. DH (by far)...plus that f'n slug Selig moving my team to the ALW, where I have to put up with extra midnight baseball and DH almost all the time.
2. NBAization of MLB by having 4 WC spots in playoffs
3. (not a rule but)....   Exponential Growth in MLB salaries, and effect on ticket prices
4. Changes in slide rule.
5. NP intentional walk.  I have seen a number of times WP's or PB's on an IBB that have changed the game.

I do like the instant replay, and when auto -strike zone becomes reality.  Got to make this game C.B. Bucknor proof.
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« Reply #111 on: April 26, 2017, 11:00:40 am »
Here's the Top 5 in my lifetime

1. DH (by far)...plus that f'n slug Selig moving my team to the ALW, where I have to put up with extra midnight baseball and DH almost all the time.
2. NBAization of MLB by having 4 WC spots in playoffs
3. (not a rule but)....   Exponential Growth in MLB salaries, and effect on ticket prices
4. Changes in slide rule.
5. NP intentional walk.  I have seen a number of times WP's or PB's on an IBB that have changed the game.

I do like the instant replay, and when auto -strike zone becomes reality.  Got to make this game C.B. Bucknor proof.

Good list, @catfish1957

I have an idea for automation used in calling "East-West" borders of the plate.

All it takes is one person with another as backup and installed sensors inside the border of the rubber home plate.

The sensor would pick up any breach "...on the black".

Once the batter is finished with his 'practice' half swings in the box and is set.....those two guys push a button.

All the ump has to do is call high and low.

And since most umps look over ONE shoulder anyway they can move to the catcher's right shoulder to 'see' even better!
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Re: BASEBALL 2017---Bring it On!!!
« Reply #112 on: April 26, 2017, 11:12:43 am »
Here's the Top 5 in my lifetime

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5. NP intentional walk.  I have seen a number of times WP's or PB's on an IBB that have changed the game.

I do like the instant replay, and when auto -strike zone becomes reality.  Got to make this game C.B. Bucknor proof.

That's precisely why I don't like the NP Intentional Walk.  It screws the offense by removing four opportunities for errors.  Name one other rule in baseball that does that.  Even the infield fly rule doesn't do that.

I hear ya about making the sport Bucknor-proof.  I don't think there's a team in MLB that hasn't been jacked by that jag-off.
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« Reply #113 on: April 26, 2017, 11:18:37 am »
@DCPatriot The Nats did a great job last night!  Let's have another!  D-Backs could use that Colorado loss...
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« Reply #114 on: April 26, 2017, 11:19:34 am »
Good list, @catfish1957

I have an idea for automation used in calling "East-West" borders of the plate.

All it takes is one person with another as backup and installed sensors inside the border of the rubber home plate.

The sensor would pick up any breach "...on the black".

Once the batter is finished with his 'practice' half swings in the box and is set.....those two guys push a button.

All the ump has to do is call high and low.

And since most umps look over ONE shoulder anyway they can move to the catcher's right shoulder to 'see' even better!

I like those ideas.  Considering Tennis uses this technology without flaw, it seems baseball could actually implement easily.
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« Reply #115 on: April 26, 2017, 11:22:15 am »
@DCPatriot The Nats did a great job last night!  Let's have another!  D-Backs could use that Colorado loss...

That final score scares the hell out of me.

And it should scare the hell out of you, too.   And every beisbol fan in the world.

We don't need no steenkin' 'Arena Baseball'.
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« Reply #116 on: April 26, 2017, 11:28:09 am »
I'd like to see the mound height back to what it was.   And the rulebook strikezone called.  Letters to knees.

Not so sure how today's pitcher's breaking balls would react, though.   LOL!
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« Reply #117 on: April 26, 2017, 11:33:45 am »
That final score scares the hell out of me.

And it should scare the hell out of you, too.   And every beisbol fan in the world.

We don't need no steenkin' 'Arena Baseball'.

I agree.  Mrs. Liberty watched the final innings on Gameday, and boy was she pissed....
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« Reply #118 on: April 26, 2017, 11:36:35 am »
I'd like to see the mound height back to what it was.   And the rulebook strikezone called.  Letters to knees.

Not so sure how today's pitcher's breaking balls would react, though.   LOL!

I agree with the part about the mound, too.  It was a failed experiment to increase hitting, and it didn't.  It did, however, increase pitching injuries and contributed to fewer pitchers pitching full games.

The strike zone is an issue that dates back to Doubleday.
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« Reply #119 on: April 26, 2017, 11:36:57 am »
That's precisely why I don't like the NP Intentional Walk.  It screws the offense by removing four opportunities for errors.  Name one other rule in baseball that does that.  Even the infield fly rule doesn't do that.

I hear ya about making the sport Bucknor-proof.  I don't think there's a team in MLB that hasn't been jacked by that jag-off.

True enough. I've seen batters reach out and hit intentional balls and I've also seen intentional balls go to the backstop

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« Reply #120 on: April 26, 2017, 11:37:09 am »
I DO NOT understand why people insist on fixing things that aren't broken! 

I long for the days when baseball was played for the love of the game!

Astros are 14 and 6!
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« Reply #121 on: April 26, 2017, 01:15:43 pm »
Is baseball too slow? The battle lines are drawn -- and MLB is taking a side

PHILADELPHIA -- Art Nelson knows that up the New Jersey Turnpike on Park Avenue, Major League Baseball's deepest thinkers are hard at work trying to solve maybe the hottest topic on commissioner Rob Manfred's to-do list: pace of game.

But here in Ashburn Alley, with a cheesesteak in his hand and a Mets-Phillies game about to unfold before his eyes, Nelson would like the commish to know something just as important:

He's in no hurry to go home.

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[...] new polling data, compiled for ESPN this month by digital insights company Toluna, confirm the sentiments of folks in Ashburn Alley. It's all those people who aren't at the park, the ones sitting at home with a clicker or smartphone -- or not watching at all -- who say games are moving way too slowly.

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"They're trying to appeal to the non-passionate fan," Sutton said. "They're looking to attract people who could become fans if you make it appealing enough. That's their biggest problem -- bringing in that audience that they're not getting because the game is too slow."

But the current fans have a question, and it's an excellent one: How does baseball know it can ever attract those fans?

"I don't like all these changes to baseball to please [people] who will never like it," tweeted Bob Romano (@chisox927). "I don't expect soccer to change so I'll like it more."

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Meanwhile, as our polling shows, the incredible divide between the TV/mobile fan base and the in-the-park crowd might remain as impossible to bridge as ever -- because there seems to be only one thing everyone can agree upon.

"Baseball still feels timeless," Bill Sutton said, "if you're at the game."


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« Reply #122 on: April 26, 2017, 01:17:55 pm »
-- because there seems to be only one thing everyone can agree upon.

Two things, actually -- the second one being get rid of CB Bucknor.

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« Reply #125 on: April 26, 2017, 01:33:19 pm »
True enough. I've seen batters reach out and hit intentional balls and I've also seen intentional balls go to the backstop

I think it was in the World Series where Johnny Bench had two strikes on him.
The catcher called time out, went out to the mound for a meeting.
They threw three intentional balls.
As Johnny Bench stood there, they threw strike three right down the middle.

That won't happen again.

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« Reply #126 on: April 26, 2017, 01:38:03 pm »
I think it was in the World Series where Johnny Bench had two strikes on him.
The catcher called time out, went out to the mound for a meeting.
They threw three intentional balls.
As Johnny Bench stood there, they threw strike three right down the middle.

That won't happen again.

Nope.  Not with Intentional Walks like they are now.  All in the name of "pace." 
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« Reply #127 on: April 26, 2017, 04:19:20 pm »
I've said it before, I'll say it again. They want to quicken the pace of a baseball game,
stop cutting to commercials every time a manager goes to his bullpen in the middle
of a tough inning. (And find C.B. Bucknor another line of work.)


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« Reply #128 on: April 26, 2017, 04:43:50 pm »
I DO NOT understand why people insist on fixing things that aren't broken! 

I long for the days when baseball was played for the love of the game!

Astros are 14 and 6!

 888high58888

Love that Houston stadium. 

I believe 45 games is a good barometer in which to judge and evaluate teams/players.
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« Reply #129 on: April 26, 2017, 04:46:33 pm »
I think it was in the World Series where Johnny Bench had two strikes on him.
The catcher called time out, went out to the mound for a meeting.
They threw three intentional balls.
As Johnny Bench stood there, they threw strike three right down the middle.

That won't happen again.

My way around that rule?

Don't ask for the intentional pass.   Just throw four pitch-outs.
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« Reply #130 on: April 26, 2017, 04:48:53 pm »
My way around that rule?

Don't ask for the intentional pass.   Just throw four pitch-outs.

A pitcher will never do that because the new rule protects them from Wild Pitches and Passed Balls.  The rule only screws the batter.
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« Reply #131 on: April 26, 2017, 04:52:21 pm »
A pitcher will never do that because the new rule protects them from Wild Pitches and Passed Balls.  The rule only screws the batter.

I was merely satisfying the 'purist' in the box seat.   LOL!
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« Reply #132 on: April 26, 2017, 04:53:18 pm »
I was merely satisfying the 'purist' in the box seat.   LOL!

Moi?   ****slapping
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« Reply #133 on: April 27, 2017, 08:11:58 am »

Trea Turner triple shy of another cycle as Nats rough up Rockies


DENVER -- Good luck navigating through the top five of Washington's lineup these days.

It's definitely a pick-your-poison sort of situation.

Trea Turner nearly hit for the cycle for a second straight night, finishing a triple shy, and Bryce Harper had four more hits to run his average to .432 as the Nationals beat the Colorado Rockies 11-4 on Wednesday.

In all, the combination of Adam Eaton, Turner, Harper, Ryan Zimmerman and Daniel Murphy went 13 of 24 with three homers and all 11 RBI to help the Nationals improve to 8-1 on their 10-game trip.

Now that's production.



more at:  http://www.espn.com/mlb/recap?gameId=370426127

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Re: BASEBALL 2017---Bring it On!!!
« Reply #134 on: April 27, 2017, 10:08:06 am »
Trea Turner triple shy of another cycle as Nats rough up Rockies


DENVER -- Good luck navigating through the top five of Washington's lineup these days.



Nats do look tough this year.

My Astros may not have that level of "murderer's row" but the lineup is rock solid 1-9.  Add a resurgent Keuchel , a good front 3 (which is all you need in playoffs), and  maybe the best pen in MLB, and we might be seeing y'all in October.

Still real early but.....
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« Reply #135 on: April 27, 2017, 11:07:45 am »
Nats do look tough this year.

My Astros may not have that level of "murderer's row" but the lineup is rock solid 1-9.  Add a resurgent Keuchel , a good front 3 (which is all you need in playoffs), and  maybe the best pen in MLB, and we might be seeing y'all in October.

Still real early but.....

The Astros are fun to watch.   Like the Royals' teams when they first realized they were contenders.

But I don't care how 'fearsome' your lineup can be.   Good pitching will shut down hitting, especially in a short series.

Max Scherzer  ERA 1.95

Stephen Strasburg - ERA 2.89

Gio "Nat Gio" Gonzalez  ERA 1.35

Tanner Roark - ERA 3.64

Joe Ross  - only 11 innings pitched.   too small a sample size.
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Re: BASEBALL 2017---Bring it On!!!
« Reply #136 on: April 27, 2017, 11:22:00 am »
Your guys did great last night, @DCPatriot!  Unfortunately, my Dbacks blew it in the Ninth, so we're still 1/2 game behind Colorado.   :shrug:
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« Reply #137 on: April 27, 2017, 11:25:22 am »
3 way tie in the AL Central right now. Sox, Indians, and Tigers are all 11-9 at .550

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« Reply #138 on: April 27, 2017, 11:26:21 am »
The Astros are fun to watch.   Like the Royals' teams when they first realized they were contenders.

But I don't care how 'fearsome' your lineup can be.   Good pitching will shut down hitting, especially in a short series.

Max Scherzer  ERA 1.95

Stephen Strasburg - ERA 2.89

Gio "Nat Gio" Gonzalez  ERA 1.35

Tanner Roark - ERA 3.64

Joe Ross  - only 11 innings pitched.   too small a sample size.

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« Reply #139 on: April 27, 2017, 11:34:09 am »
The Astros are fun to watch.   Like the Royals' teams when they first realized they were contenders.

But I don't care how 'fearsome' your lineup can be.   Good pitching will shut down hitting, especially in a short series.

Max Scherzer  ERA 1.95

Stephen Strasburg - ERA 2.89

Gio "Nat Gio" Gonzalez  ERA 1.35

Tanner Roark - ERA 3.64

Joe Ross  - only 11 innings pitched.   too small a sample size.

I'm glad Scherzer is working out for you.  He didn't do so well for us the last season he was here.  I always liked his style, though.
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« Reply #140 on: April 27, 2017, 12:12:26 pm »
Your guys did great last night, @DCPatriot!  Unfortunately, my Dbacks blew it in the Ninth, so we're still 1/2 game behind Colorado.   :shrug:

The only players in major league baseball with more RBIs than Ryan Zimmerman (21) are this teammates Bryce Harper (22) and Daniel Murphy (22)

The other day, they were interviewing Dusty Baker on his decision to bat Ryan Zimmerman behind Bryce Harper instead of lefty Daniel Murphy....against right-handed pitching.

He was reminded that last year, Harper's woes started when the CUBS refused to pitch to him even if it meant loading the bases...and electing to pitch to Zimmerman, who at the time was half the player he exhibits today.

Anyway, Ray Knight, the NATS announcer took issue with that....as I did...that Harper's game-winning homerun last week on a 3-2 count was because Daniel Murphy was on deck.
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« Reply #141 on: April 28, 2017, 12:11:03 pm »


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Harper is off to a good start this season -- one that indicates he may be on track to have a season more like his 2015 performance than his 2016. Harper is leading the majors with a .418 batting average and is second with a 1.358 OPS.

But April wasn’t the issue last year, either. Harper hit nine HR in April last season and 15 the rest of the season, and that wasn’t the only rate that fell off. Harper hit .286 with an 1.121 OPS in April and followed it with a .235 batting average and a .759 OPS the rest of the season.

more at:   http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/131492/april-28th-is-mike-trout-and-bryce-harper-day
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« Reply #142 on: April 28, 2017, 06:58:11 pm »
Not strictly baseball but it should be interesting.

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« Reply #143 on: April 30, 2017, 04:59:48 pm »
HOLY COW!

NATS are up on the METS 23-5 in the 8th inning. 

Anthony Rendon has 10 RBI.
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« Reply #144 on: April 30, 2017, 05:03:46 pm »
HOLY COW!

NATS are up on the METS 23-5 in the 8th inning. 

Anthony Rendon has 10 RBI.

They will be qualified to run 50 yard dashes in the next olimpics at that rate.
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« Reply #145 on: April 30, 2017, 05:48:06 pm »
HOLY COW!

NATS are up on the METS 23-5 in the 8th inning. 

Anthony Rendon has 10 RBI.

Whoa!  Enjoy it while you can, 'cause you're against Phoenix Tuesday.   :whistle:
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« Reply #146 on: April 30, 2017, 07:57:58 pm »
Whoa!  Enjoy it while you can, 'cause you're against Phoenix Tuesday.   :whistle:

 22222frying pan      :laugh:
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« Reply #147 on: April 30, 2017, 08:26:18 pm »
22222frying pan      :laugh:

Don't get all comfy.  We have a day off, and Walker's pitching.   :0001:
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« Reply #148 on: May 01, 2017, 01:08:00 am »
Noah's bark should have gotten a Mets bite
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http://throneberryfields.com/2017/04/30/noahs-bark-should-have-gotten-a-mets-bite/

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It’s one thing for baseball players to have the kind of contract negotiating autonomy they’ve enjoyed in the
free agency era. But it’s something else when the keys to the zoo get lifted by the animals, as the Mets may be
learning the hard way. Players may choose for whom they play when contracts expire, but they still, alas, have
bosses. Or so we thought.

Don’t be surprised if the 23-5 terrorist attacks the Nationals laid upon the Mets Sunday afternoon have a lot of
people wondering just who’s been running the Mets.

Because when Noah Syndergaard—scratched from his start against the Braves last Thursday due to a bicep and
shoulder discomfort—shenked an MRI appointment the day after, the purported ace of a team who swore they’d
be monitoring their youthful pitching staff very closely no matter what, he made them look like liars.

Syndergaard and, it’s been reported, a few coaches watching, swore he was fine throwing a bullpen session Friday.
But come Sunday, he tried throwing bullets that went few places he wanted them to go, avoiding Nats bats being
one of them. Then, he tried throwing a few offspeed pitches. In the second inning, with the Nats getting friskier,
Syndergaard strained his right lateral muscle and had to leave the game.

This is just what the Mets’ already overworked and beleaguered bullpen didn’t need, after two days’ worth of arduous
work in containing the Nats long enough for the Mets to take the first two of a weekend set.

Syndergaard and the Mets’ bosses, field level and front office alike, better hope and pray that Thor’s lat strain isn’t
serious enough to warrant a trip to the disabled list. But if they’d really been looking out for Syndergaard’s and the
team’s well being, they’d have done what New York Daily News columnist John Harper suggested hours after the
Sunday massacre
, “exerted more influence, or flat told him that if he didn’t get [the Friday MRI] he was going on
the disabled list.”

Manager Terry Collins himself told reporters gambling with Met arms in general, and Syndergaard’s in particular
considering last week’s doings, was not an option. “It’s quite obvious we cannot take a chance on him,” Collins said,
“hurting this guy, especially when you’re talking about anything that runs into the shoulder to where he changes
his delivery and other things happen.”

Bergen Record columnist Bob Klapisch—who once wrote, with Harper, an excellent if troubling book about the horrific
1993 Mets, The Worst Team Money Could Buywasn’t quite as forgiving in his expression as Harper was.

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Syndergaard could have made the [Friday MRI] episode easier for the Mets, if only he’d
been less petulant about the MRI. There was no reason for him to refuse, other than to
prove he could force the club to backpedal. Add that to an incident in the clubhouse,
where Syndergaard berated Jay Horwitz, the 70-year-old media relations director, and
you have the personality profile of an immature star, not a self-aware ace who understands
the responsibility of acting like one.

Remember this, too: Syndergaard was warned about the risk of a heavy weight-lifting
regimen that added thickness to his upper body last winter. The Mets were against his
unorthodox approach. Motion analysis expert Tom House said Syndergaard’s obsession
with new muscle was a “worst-case scenario.” House told The Record two months ago
that there was strong probability Syndergaard would be injured before June 1.

Syndergaard, however, blew off the prediction as casually as he said no to the MRI.
He knew better. “My arm is loose, my flexibility is good,” Thor said back in February.
“I’m not worried.”

Instead of getting a duly-scheduled MRI after one issue got him scratched from a scheduled start, where a possible
coming issue might have been prevented with a little smart management from there, Syndergaard played the side
of old-school thought that gets old-school thought a bad reputation in the first place.

I don’t need no MRI. I’m tough! I’m the Mighty Thor!! Thou shalt have no other gods of thunder before me!!!

Except that he wasn’t, on Sunday. A Mets bullpen in dire need of at least two thirds of a day off got yanked into action
early, with little enough reserve, and—after the Mets had carved their way back to within one run—the Nats violated
their Eighth Amendment rights.

It got bad enough that manager Terry Collins got backup catcher Kevin Plawecki to pitch two innings. If Plawecki
volunteered, he should be nominated for a Nobel Prize. The good news was Plawecki getting three outs to end
the seventh.

The bad news was, he got them after Josh Smoker, perhaps the last man standing in the Mets’ bullpen, surrendered
an RBI double to Daniel Murphy, a run scoring on an infield error, and a three-run homer to Matt Wieters.

Then, Plawecki got three outs in the eighth. The worse news was, he got those after Bryce Harper opened by hitting
a ball-one pitch into the right center field seats, Ryan Zimmerman followed promptly with a base hit, pinch hitter
Adam Lind followed that with a short over the center field fence, and Anthony Rendon—adding a cherry-and-whipped
cream topping to his history-making sundae afternoon (6-for-6 with ten steaks, the highest-ever RBI total of any 6-for-6
man)—blasted his third bomb of the day into the left field bleachers.

Take one for the team? Plawecki took the tail end of the London Blitz.

I’ve written that baseball players shouldn’t have to apologise for becoming injured in the line of duty. But if they’re
foolish enough with injuries, and it leads to disaster almost at once, maybe they should be made to write 100 times,
“I will not shenk my MRI. I will not shenk my MRI.”

Don’t even think about it: the Players’ Association wouldn’t have had a leg to stand on if the Mets gave Syndergaard
the not-so-fast order when learning Syndergaard planned to shenk Friday’s MRI. As Harper pointed out, should the
Players’ Association have claimed the Mets were trying to strong-arm an uninjured player, the Mets would have
countered what happened to be true: it was Syndergaard himself who first reported his biceps and shoulder issue
last Wednesday night.

“Would the MRI have disclosed a lat issue or reaffirmed some concern about the bicep?” asked general manager
Sandy Alderson about Syndergaard’s stubbornness. “We’ll never know.” The Mets may know sooner than they
think. Because guess why Syndergaard wasn’t available to talk after the game? He was high-tailing it to New York
for a Monday appointment.

For an MRI.

And don’t think the Mets weren’t tempted to order the MRI operators to have his head examined while they were
at it.

Collins—who flipped and threw a cup when an admittedly foolish reporter asked if he was upset over Syndergaard’s
lat strain
(that’s like asking Poland if it was upset about being the receiving end of the war-opening Nazi blitz)—has always
sounded the call of accountability from his players. If ever that call needed to be sounded, it was Sunday, before
Thor could escape.

The Mets should have ordered Syndergaard to stay put until after Sunday, Bloody Sunday finally ended and he could
face the press explaining himself. After he made them look like chumps before leaving his team to human rights
violations, it’s the least the Mets could have asked of their purported ace.

Update: Syndergaard underwent the MRI today. Torn lat muscle. The Mets say there's no time frame for his return,
but you might care to rememember Steven Matz missed two months with the same injury in 2015.
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« Reply #149 on: May 02, 2017, 12:20:34 pm »
Just posting here:

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Red Sox apologize for fans' racial taunts toward Adam Jones
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BOSTON — May 2, 2017, 12:06 PM ET

 Boston Red Sox President Sam Kennedy is apologizing for fans at Fenway Park taunting Baltimore Orioles center fielder Adam Jones with racial slurs.

Kennedy also apologized Tuesday for a fan throwing peanuts at Jones during Monday night's game. He said the organization is "sickened by the conduct of an ignorant few."

Jones, who is black, said he was "called the N-word a handful of times" in quotes reported by USA Today Sports and The Boston Globe.

"It's unfortunate that people need to resort to those type of epithets to degrade another human being," Jones said.

Continued: http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/report-orioles-adam-jones-claims-racist-taunts-boston-47150545

I've been to a game and what was some loud person in the stand calling one of the players on the field some name, "loser" or something like that but clearly nothing like this reported incident in Boston.  Some name-calling of course, is not altogether uncommon. Racial slurs? The fan should face a 1 season ban at least I'd say.  At least, for that kind of name-calling.
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