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Aspartame in Diet Soda Linked to Significant Health Issues, Tumors
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By Ethan Huff

They’re a popular mealtime beverage for millions of people who believe that by drinking them, they’re avoiding the pitfalls of sugar consumption. But diet soda pop is neither healthy nor safe, as research continues to show that its primary sweetening constituent in most cases, aspartame, is a damaging neurotoxin that can lead to a host of chronic health issues, including cancer.

The largest study of its kind ever conducted on aspartame was put together by researchers from the University of Iowa. They looked at 60,000 women who consumed aspartame-laden diet beverages over the course of 10 years and found that those who consume two or more diet drinks per day are significantly more prone than other women to develop cardiovascular disease — and to die from it.

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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2017, 09:40:18 am »
I dunno.  There are a huge number of studies that point very much in the opposite direction, so this study faces an uphill battle.

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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2017, 04:29:51 pm »
And, again, it could be correlation - those who struggle with their weight tend to drink diet sodas for instance. I guess I'll have to look at their methodology.  Or not - I don't drink soda, so I'm not that interested.

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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2017, 04:52:23 pm »
Ah ha:

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Dr. Ankur Vyas, lead investigator of the study, noted that this is one of the largest studies ever to look at aspartame, and that the findings are “consistent with some previous data, especially those linking diet drinks to metabolic syndrome.”

“On average, women who consumed two or more diet drinks a day were younger, more likely to be smokers, and had a higher prevalence of diabetes, high blood pressure, and higher body mass index,” the paper explained.

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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2017, 04:54:52 pm »
Daily Sheeple linking to Natural News citing a study which doesn't say what the headline claims (some correlation only (not causation nor direct linking)).

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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2017, 04:58:58 pm »
Everything is bad for you and everything causes cancer.

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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2017, 05:03:18 pm »
 :shrug:

If God didn't make it it shouldn't be an ingredient.

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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2017, 05:06:25 pm »
:shrug:

If God didn't make it it shouldn't be an ingredient.

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So cyanide is ok?   Any old mushroom from a field?   Perhaps peach pit soup?
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2017, 05:07:24 pm »
:shrug:

If God didn't make it it shouldn't be an ingredient.


Eh? If you believe God made the universe than how did God not make it?

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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2017, 05:09:09 pm »

Eh? If you believe God made the universe than how did God not make it?

With peach pits?

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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2017, 05:10:20 pm »
I dunno.  There are a huge number of studies that point very much in the opposite direction, so this study faces an uphill battle.

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Doesn't it turn into formeldahyde?

http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/DOCKETS/dailys/03/Jan03/012203/02P-0317_emc-000196.txt

" The formaldehyde exposure from aspartame
    is significant. Aspartame breaks down into methanol, amino acids
    and several other chemicals. The methanol is quickly absorbed and
    converted into formaldehyde. The methanol found in foods and
    alcoholic beverages is also absorbed, but there are "protective
    chemicals" in these traditionally-ingested foods and beverages that
    prevent the conversion of methanol to formaldehyde."

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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2017, 05:12:38 pm »
So cyanide is ok?   Any old mushroom from a field?   Perhaps peach pit soup?

I didn't say that everything God made should be an ingredient. I said if God didn't make it, it shouldn't be an ingredient.

I just finished off my last jar of Smucker's strawberry jam... cracked open a jar of my mother's home made preserves. No comparison whatsoever. Almost everything that goes in my face these days is readily identifiable, with ingredients void of any sort of scientific name. It's better. And I will wager, better for me.

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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2017, 05:15:30 pm »
Daily Sheeple linking to Natural News citing a study which doesn't say what the headline claims (some correlation only (not causation nor direct linking)).

The Daily Sheeple. I lol'd at that source. But in all honesty, they are probably more reliable than all the Fake News ABCBSCNN sources.

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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2017, 05:17:27 pm »
I didn't say that everything God made should be an ingredient. I said if God didn't make it, it shouldn't be an ingredient.

I just finished off my last jar of Smucker's strawberry jam... cracked open a jar of my mother's home made preserves. No comparison whatsoever. Almost everything that goes in my face these days is readily identifiable, with ingredients void of any sort of scientific name. It's better. And I will wager, better for me.

Theres only one brand of store bought jam I can eat these days.   Smuckers is all sugar.
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2017, 05:44:27 pm »
@roamer_1

So cyanide is ok?   Any old mushroom from a field?   Perhaps peach pit soup?
Fallacy of the Inverse.
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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2017, 05:46:36 pm »
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Doesn't it turn into formeldahyde?

http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/DOCKETS/dailys/03/Jan03/012203/02P-0317_emc-000196.txt

" The formaldehyde exposure from aspartame
    is significant. Aspartame breaks down into methanol, amino acids
    and several other chemicals. The methanol is quickly absorbed and
    converted into formaldehyde. The methanol found in foods and
    alcoholic beverages is also absorbed, but there are "protective
    chemicals" in these traditionally-ingested foods and beverages that
    prevent the conversion of methanol to formaldehyde."
Shouldn't that help preserve you?  :smokin:

PS. Hells bells isn't methanol a poison in it's own right. Anti-freeze?
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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2017, 05:51:08 pm »
Fallacy of the Inverse.

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@roamer_1

Actually its not, its pointing to the fallacy commonly displayed by many (no roamer in this case) that its foolish to question ingredients or assume that just because something has been in our food supply its safe.

Just because something is natural doesn't mean its safe.  Nor is it safe to assume that our food supply is 100% safe nor that studies sponsored by the aspartame industry are reliable.   The same goes for GMO and a host of other issues facing us.

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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2017, 05:55:52 pm »
:shrug:

If God didn't make it it shouldn't be an ingredient.

LOL.  You'll have a lot of trouble finding food as almost everything in your stores are products of countless centuries of engineering and science.

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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2017, 05:57:09 pm »
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@roamer_1

Actually its not, its pointing to the fallacy commonly displayed by many (no roamer in this case) that its foolish to question ingredients or assume that just because something has been in our food supply its safe.

Just because something is natural doesn't mean its safe.  Nor is it safe to assume that our food supply is 100% safe nor that studies sponsored by the aspartame industry are reliable.   The same goes for GMO and a host of other issues facing us.

A reasonable person questions what they are told.


Saying unnatural things are not safe does not equal saying all natural things are safe.

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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2017, 06:00:59 pm »
And, again, it could be correlation - those who struggle with their weight tend to drink diet sodas for instance. I guess I'll have to look at their methodology.  Or not - I don't drink soda, so I'm not that interested.

Exactly.  There have been "studies" that show that people who drink diet soda are more prone to diabetes.


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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2017, 06:09:12 pm »

Saying unnatural things are not safe does not equal saying all natural things are safe.

Logic is your friend.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contraposition

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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2017, 06:16:13 pm »
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Doesn't it turn into formeldahyde?


Your lysdexic spelling aside, yes. :laugh: 

I think aspartame is mainly feared to be a neurotoxin.  That's one of the most famous dangers of aspartame's methanol component--which goes on to produce formaldehyde (and formic acid, too, I believe) in the body.  Also, I personally knew a Marine Corps pilot who was temporarily grounded for symptoms of multiple sclerosis but who was "cured" (and restored to the flightline) when his docs made him stop drinking several NutraSweet drinks per day.  (I believe that this adverse affect of aspartame has been reported in the medical literature.  Anyway, I specifically remember reading about it somewhere.  The condition was called pseudo-MS.)


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« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2017, 06:31:53 pm »
Google confirmed my suspicions, Methanol is a component in anti-freeze. It also known as wood alcohol and caused a lot of deaths and blindness back in prohibition. Incidentally the antidote is ethanol.
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Nor is it safe to assume that our food supply is 100% safe nor that studies sponsored by the aspartame industry are reliable.   The same goes for GMO and a host of other issues facing us.

A reasonable person questions what they are told.

Interesting that you raise the issue of GMOs.  Monsanto reportedly owned the patent for NutraSweet until it finally expired a few years ago.  I have heard from a few different sources that Monsanto opposed stevia in the food supply on the grounds that it had never been proven safe.  When the NutraSweet patent expired, the story goes, Monsanto withdrew its objections to stevia and started growing its own GMO stevia plants for seeds in that new cash crop industry.   

Can anyone confirm this story?


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« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2017, 08:46:11 pm »
Google confirmed my suspicions, Methanol is a component in anti-freeze. It also known as wood alcohol and caused a lot of deaths and blindness back in prohibition. Incidentally the antidote is ethanol.

Yeah, the ethanol antidote was discovered many years ago, in Sweden, I think, when they took some folks who had gone blind from imbibing wood alcohol and kept them roaring drunk for several days using IV ethanol.  The ethanol displaced the methanol bound to their optic nerves, and they got their sight back.

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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2017, 08:55:03 pm »
Theres only one brand of store bought jam I can eat these days.   Smuckers is all sugar.

*nothing* beats home made. I think there's some kind of delicious oil that exudes from my mother's fingertips... Everything she touches is delicious.

The next batch of jam is mine, made under her direct tutelage - and I will bet is ain't as good. Still better than store bought... but the wisdom of a 75 year old mother/grandmother/great-grandmother, is impossible to beat, or to replicate.

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« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2017, 08:57:51 pm »
LOL.  You'll have a lot of trouble finding food as almost everything in your stores are products of countless centuries of engineering and science.

That is the point. I am not getting that much from the store anymore.

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« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2017, 10:45:26 am »
For what it's worth I gave up my 2-3 bottles per day of diet Mt Dew first week of January and can't believe the difference in how I feel.

Of course the first 4-5 days were hell major headaches, upset stomach. I have not changed my food diet but I no longer crave sweets and carbs like i did when i was drinking the stuff.

I had several maladies that have gone away since (sore joints) for one.

Everyone who gave up diet pop told me how much better I would feel if I did the same.

Really no comparison. 

After this I truly think the stuff is poison and screws up your system.

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« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2017, 11:16:33 am »
For what it's worth I gave up my 2-3 bottles per day of diet Mt Dew first week of January and can't believe the difference in how I feel.

Of course the first 4-5 days were hell major headaches, upset stomach. I have not changed my food diet but I no longer crave sweets and carbs like i did when i was drinking the stuff.

I had several maladies that have gone away since (sore joints) for one.

Everyone who gave up diet pop told me how much better I would feel if I did the same.

Really no comparison. 

After this I truly think the stuff is poison and screws up your system.

I know a lot of stories like yours.

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« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2017, 11:19:33 am »
Won't drink diet sodas or use artificial sweeteners at all - stuff gives me a massive headache, complete with nausea, almost immediately.
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« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2017, 11:32:05 am »
For what it's worth I gave up my 2-3 bottles per day of diet Mt Dew first week of January and can't believe the difference in how I feel.

Of course the first 4-5 days were hell major headaches, upset stomach. I have not changed my food diet but I no longer crave sweets and carbs like i did when i was drinking the stuff.

I had several maladies that have gone away since (sore joints) for one.

Everyone who gave up diet pop told me how much better I would feel if I did the same.

Really no comparison. 

After this I truly think the stuff is poison and screws up your system.

I quit diet pop last summer and can tell a difference.  My memory is actually sharper!  It is poison, and I had an anatomy teacher tell me that the phosphoric acid, which is present in almost all soda pop, actually causes your bones to lose calcium.  Bad stuff!
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« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2017, 11:36:47 am »
I quit diet pop last summer and can tell a difference.  My memory is actually sharper!  It is poison, and I had an anatomy teacher tell me that the phosphoric acid, which is present in almost all soda pop, actually causes your bones to lose calcium.  Bad stuff!
If memory serves Coca Cola once won a lot suit against a consumer who claimed he found a mouse in his Coke. Coke won not because the couldn't have put a mouse in, but because if they had it would have completely dissolved. It does make pretty good toilet cleaner too...
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« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2017, 11:37:07 am »
I quit diet pop last summer and can tell a difference.  My memory is actually sharper!

Wow same here. I thought it was due to aging.. I could not concentrate as well-could not multi task as I did when younger. Plus anxiety issues went away..I think all the caffeine kept me edgy.

As I said how I feel now just 24 days from stopping the stuff is like night and day. Numerous people told me this who gave up the diet pop

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« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2017, 11:43:38 am »
@Oceander

Doesn't it turn into formeldahyde?

http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/DOCKETS/dailys/03/Jan03/012203/02P-0317_emc-000196.txt

" The formaldehyde exposure from aspartame
    is significant. Aspartame breaks down into methanol, amino acids
    and several other chemicals. The methanol is quickly absorbed and
    converted into formaldehyde. The methanol found in foods and
    alcoholic beverages is also absorbed, but there are "protective
    chemicals" in these traditionally-ingested foods and beverages that
    prevent the conversion of methanol to formaldehyde."



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Formaldehyde is present in many foodstuffs and in fact occurs naturally in some foods, as do the metabolites that the body breaks formaldehyde down into, such as formic acid. 

Also, our bodies in fact produce formaldehyde for use in our metabolism. 

I am not saying that formaldehyde is the next best thing to sunshine, but it is not the same thing as cyanide or methanol, either. 

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« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2017, 12:02:59 pm »
If memory serves Coca Cola once won a lot suit against a consumer who claimed he found a mouse in his Coke. Coke won not because the couldn't have put a mouse in, but because if they had it would have completely dissolved. It does make pretty good toilet cleaner too...

And, windshield cleaner.

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« Reply #35 on: January 25, 2017, 02:40:02 pm »
For what it's worth I gave up my 2-3 bottles per day of diet Mt Dew first week of January and can't believe the difference in how I feel.

[...]

After this I truly think the stuff is poison and screws up your system.

I did the same, nearly 20 years ago, going back to sweet tea. Another thing to convince you:

Let a soda go flat - the carbonation is misleading. Once it is flat, pour it off into a glass, taking notice of it's syrupy consistency. try to approximate that consistency in sweet tea or lemonade by adding sugar. Then try to drink the result.

Folks roll their eyes when I add sugar to my tea, but I know for certain that the sugar I use is far less then in that soda they're drinkin.
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« Reply #36 on: January 25, 2017, 02:43:05 pm »
I did the same, nearly 20 years ago, going back to sweet tea. Another thing to convince you:

Let a soda go flat - the carbonation is misleading. Once it is flat, pour it off into a glass, taking notice of it's syrupy consistency. try to approximate that consistency in sweet tea or lemonade by adding sugar. Then try to drink the result.

Folks roll their eyes when I add sugar to my tea, but I know for certain that the sugar I use is far less then in that soda they're drinkin.
Yep it only takes a teaspoon or two for a glass of tea vs 10 in a can of Coke.
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« Reply #37 on: January 25, 2017, 02:53:25 pm »
Yep it only takes a teaspoon or two for a glass of tea vs 10 in a can of Coke.

Well... that kinda depends on the glass... Mine all say Mason on the side...  :shrug: :whistle:

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« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2017, 03:11:24 pm »
@driftdiver

Formaldehyde is present in many foodstuffs and in fact occurs naturally in some foods, as do the metabolites that the body breaks formaldehyde down into, such as formic acid. 

Also, our bodies in fact produce formaldehyde for use in our metabolism. 

I am not saying that formaldehyde is the next best thing to sunshine, but it is not the same thing as cyanide or methanol, either.

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According to the FDA article the formaldehyde elsewhere in our diet is generally bound to other compounds and is therefor processed differently.  The formaldehyde from aspartame therefor acts differently in our bodies.

Personally I avoid all artificial sweeteners that I can and have drastically reduced my sugar intake. 
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