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« Reply #100 on: October 28, 2016, 02:34:55 pm »
No matter how horrible Hillary is, Trump is unacceptable.


Maybe to you or me, but there are million to whom he is perfectly acceptable. Just saw a poll from the Hill that Hillary is down 8 points, only beating Turnip by 4.

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« Reply #101 on: October 28, 2016, 02:36:14 pm »
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« Reply #102 on: October 28, 2016, 02:37:09 pm »
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"In connection with an unrelated case, the FBI has learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation. I am writing to inform you that the investigative team briefed me on this yesterday, and I agreed that the FBI should take appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails to determine whether they contain classified information, as well as to assess their importance to our investigation," he added.

What is this “unrelated case”:shrug:

While most are thinking this must be something very damaging to Clinton, what if this has to do with Russia’s involvement in hacking, their trying to sway the election, Assange, etc. and …..who knows who else…..

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Again the term "In connection with an unrelated case has me very puzzled.

That could either mean that something was uncovered during an investigation completely unrelated to the FBI’s initial investigation into Clinton’s email server and her and her staff’s handling of secret information was discovered came up with information that proves that she and they willingly mishandled and or covered up the mishandling of classified information or worse, or this unrelated case came up with something that proves something else…..

Whatever this ends up being about, this is some very scary times.

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« Reply #103 on: October 28, 2016, 02:37:15 pm »
How valiant to defend Hillary;    :silly:

You can't make this stuff up; from one of those who don't accept the nominee of the party.

Unnecessary.  We all have a right to be skeptical.  You have drawn the first parallel to the support or lack of to Mr. Trump.  Stay focused on the development itself.  Please.
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« Reply #104 on: October 28, 2016, 02:38:33 pm »
Let's pull for Evan McMullin to take Utah.  That could provide a lever for Congress to reject both Too Corrupt and Too Crazy.


Evan McMullin could make this election the most epic disaster ever IMO. Which would be amusing to watch.


Because if he does manager to throw the election to the house, there's not guarantee that the house will be able to settle on a single candidate. Remember that a majority of states is required and if nobody gets enough states in the HoR, then the elected VP (elected by the Senate), becomes "acting President". You guys ready for President Tim Paine/Mike Pence?

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« Reply #105 on: October 28, 2016, 02:38:55 pm »
Gawd I love Politics..times like these I wish I had a cigarette.. :smokin:

I'm going to have a cigar and a nice glass of port tonight when i see what became of all this.

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« Reply #106 on: October 28, 2016, 02:40:20 pm »
Unacceptable to you, you must love Islam, illegal aliens, open borders and partial birth abortion.

OFFS do you purposely try to ruin perfectly good discussions or is it a talent that just comes naturally to you?

Your complain all the time that we never bag Hillary and yet when we do...you show up and crap on the carpet.

You got your wish...we are talking about the crap Hillary is doing...care to comment on the OP?
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« Reply #107 on: October 28, 2016, 02:40:35 pm »
Unacceptable to you, you must love Islam, illegal aliens, open borders and partial birth abortion.

You really are going to go there?  Over an FBI investigation of HRC emails?  Throw a dart at the forum topics and threads.  You are most probably to hit one where that time-weary nonsense is being flung around like in a gorilla cage.
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« Reply #108 on: October 28, 2016, 02:41:27 pm »
Unacceptable to you, you must love Islam, illegal aliens, open borders and partial birth abortion.

Talk about leaping to the wrong conclusion!

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« Reply #109 on: October 28, 2016, 02:41:53 pm »
This is about Hillary and her criminality.  FBI is opening an investigation for that.
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« Reply #110 on: October 28, 2016, 02:41:58 pm »

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I'm not so sure to be honest. Presumably many would be worried about 2020, which is a mid-term and is usually when the conservative vote is strongest.

Well, it's 2018 that's the mid-tem, but I get your point.  Still, I don't see it happening but who knows. 

I should stop making predictions -- this election is so bizarre it's pretty much a fool's errand anyway.   Honestly don't know what to think at this point.  I still the fundamentals -- female vote in particular -- are just too far on her side.  Borderline "I could shoot someone in the street and my supporters wouldn't care" kind of thing.

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« Reply #111 on: October 28, 2016, 02:42:26 pm »
You really are going to go there?  Over an FBI investigation of HRC emails?  Throw a dart at the forum topics and threads.  You are most probably to hit one where that time-weary nonsense is being flung around like in a gorilla cage.

Thanks for correcting me, I wonder where you were when these so-called conservatives make attacks on me and others.

Preach it!

One thing you missed, this certainly was a big defense of Hilary and Rat Patrol managed to attack Trump as well. 

So, if one wants to criticize me, be my guest!

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« Reply #112 on: October 28, 2016, 02:43:03 pm »
Matthew Yglesias ‏@mattyglesias 2m2 minutes ago

Didn’t Bill and Loretta Lynch work this all out on the tarmac? Better rigging next time.
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« Reply #113 on: October 28, 2016, 02:46:05 pm »
Thanks for correcting me, I wonder where you were when these so-called conservatives make attacks on me and others.

Preach it!

One thing you missed, this certainly was a big defense of Hilary and Rat Patrol managed to attack Trump as well. 

So, if one wants to criticize me, be my guest!

No... just asking the topic be addressed.  And to refrain from venting past grievances. 
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« Reply #114 on: October 28, 2016, 02:46:12 pm »
How valiant to defend Hillary;    :silly:

You can't make this stuff up; from one of those who don't accept the nominee of the party.

I swear 3/4 of the posters on this site are democrat hacks trolling. Not sure if I am on a conservative site or DU.

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« Reply #115 on: October 28, 2016, 02:47:24 pm »
I swear 3/4 of the posters on this site are democrat hacks trolling. Not sure if I am on a conservative site or DU.

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« Reply #116 on: October 28, 2016, 02:47:58 pm »
The memo doesn't really say that.  It only says that they found more emails and are looking at them.

Of course it doesn't.  It is, however, an implicit premise of the memo and development. 

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I swear 3/4 of the posters on this site are democrat hacks trolling. Not sure if I am on a conservative site or DU.

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Just can't help yourself can you?

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« Reply #119 on: October 28, 2016, 02:49:01 pm »
I swear 3/4 of the posters on this site are democrat hacks trolling. Not sure if I am on a conservative site or DU.

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« Reply #120 on: October 28, 2016, 02:50:28 pm »
Can we stay on topic y'all? I can make a thread if people want to talk about who is or isn't a dem plant.... oh wait, we have one..

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« Reply #121 on: October 28, 2016, 02:52:04 pm »
You are reading more into it than is there.

I honestly don't think so.  It's beyond interesting that Comey's letter to Congress reveals the fact that additional Clinton e-mails have shown up in "an unrelated case."

Consider what that means: the FBI is making a criminal investigation of some sort and there, smack in the middle, are a bunch of Clinton e-mails of sufficient importance to cause Comey to re-open the e-mail investigation and inform Congress of the fact.

I have to think there's something real in there -- an actual pony in the pile, if you will.

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« Reply #122 on: October 28, 2016, 02:53:06 pm »
It is Friday. So far the biggest news and leaks have all come on fridays.

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« Reply #123 on: October 28, 2016, 02:53:52 pm »
When is the Gloria Allred Miss Trump press conference supposed to happen?

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« Reply #124 on: October 28, 2016, 02:56:32 pm »
How valiant to defend Hillary;    :silly:

He's not.  He's exhibiting a well-justified cynicism that anything will come of this latest revelation.

But you knew that -- you just preferred to go for the cheap shot instead.

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« Reply #125 on: October 28, 2016, 02:57:34 pm »
I swear 3/4 of the posters on this site are democrat hacks trolling. Not sure if I am on a conservative site or DU.

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« Reply #126 on: October 28, 2016, 02:58:08 pm »
I swear 3/4 of the posters on this site are democrat hacks trolling. Not sure if I am on a conservative site or DU.

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How about we knock it off with the election sniping and get back to the topic at hand?
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« Reply #127 on: October 28, 2016, 03:00:06 pm »
It is Friday. So far the biggest news and leaks have all come on fridays.

Which is kinda odd...this gives it the entire weekend plus the Sunday shows to dissect this. Usually they only do that to a Republican.
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« Reply #128 on: October 28, 2016, 03:00:09 pm »
This is an anti-Hillary thread... so why are Trumpsters upset? I don't understand?  :shrug:

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« Reply #129 on: October 28, 2016, 03:00:49 pm »
Even if Hillary wins, anything that weakens her is a good thing.

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« Reply #130 on: October 28, 2016, 03:01:30 pm »
Rather interesting timing on this... I guess the FBI was tracking evidence on an unrelated case and came upon a trail that led to more classified emails.

This ought to keep Her Infernal Malevolency busy over the next several days.

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« Reply #131 on: October 28, 2016, 03:01:45 pm »
Even if Hillary wins, anything that weakens her is a good thing.

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« Reply #132 on: October 28, 2016, 03:03:36 pm »
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« Reply #133 on: October 28, 2016, 03:05:13 pm »
It has to be about hacking of some sort.  If they do not resolve that issue, then what point is any security?  If it is not the number one issue they are investigating, it should be.  What got out or was improperly secured way back when is clearly secondary to the ongoing threat of hacking.  Only blind partisans can't see it.

Hacking is one possibility, and a reasonable hypothesis in this season of Wikileaks.  One can see the FBI looking into what's out there, and finding something new and sufficiently damning to re-open this investigation.

Other possibilities may be that the Clinton e-mails show up in connection with some sort of pay-to-play investigation; or perhaps some sort of investigation involving espionage and/or illegal release of classified information to unwholesome people.

The importance of her e-mails showing up in a Pay-to-play investigation is obvious, especially if the Clinton Foundation is also involved.

The importance of them showing up in an espionage/illegal release investigation is that now her e-mail server arrangement has demonstrably compromised national security.

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« Reply #134 on: October 28, 2016, 03:05:58 pm »
This is nothing more than another whitewash intended to protect Clinton from any risks that the GOP might try to impeach her when she's president. 

Mark my words, by Friday she will have been cleared, and possibly even granted immunity. 

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« Reply #135 on: October 28, 2016, 03:07:55 pm »
Rush was just talking about the below Kim Dotcom connection to the new emails. 

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Hillary Clinton Email Scandal: Kim Dotcom Says Deleted Mails Can Be Recovered

Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s email controversy may be far from over, if internet entrepreneur Kim Dotcom is to be believed. The man wanted by the U.S. on copyright infringement and money laundering charges said on Twitter Thursday that all of Clinton’s “permanently deleted” emails can, in fact, be accessed. Legally.

Clinton had deleted all emails from the private server she was using when she was serving as secretary of state. Copies of mails she considered work-related were saved and shared with a State Department investigation, which blocked the release of some of those mails till after the presidential election. An FBI investigation unearthed more of her emails, over 100 of which had classified information, but the agency decided not to bring any charges against her.

But about 32,000 emails were never handed over by Clinton to anyone, messages she said were personal and permanently deleted from her server. It is precisely those messages that Dotcom says can be retrieved.

The X-Keyscore, or XKS, that Dotcom is referring to is a computer system, once secret, that the NSA uses for searching and analyzing global internet traffic and data. According to Dotcom, access logs of XKS (a list of everything accessed using the XKS system) never disappears, and therefore, all of Clinton’s emails accessed by the NSA will still be on the server.

On his Twitter account, Dotcom also says he knows how the XKS system works because the New Zealand government had used it to spy on him. And to provide more credence to his claim, he even says a former NSA consultant, whistleblower and another man wanted by the U.S. government — Edward Snowden — would agree with him.

Dotcom’s claim rests on the assumption, however, that the NSA certainly accessed Clinton’s emails while she was using a private server when she was secretary of state. And with WikiLeaks already releasing, in batches, all of her emails, the point Dotcom is making is that there is a way to access them without hacking.

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« Reply #136 on: October 28, 2016, 03:08:01 pm »
Hacking is one possibility, and a reasonable hypothesis in this season of Wikileaks.  One can see the FBI looking into what's out there, and finding something new and sufficiently damning to re-open this investigation.

Other possibilities may be that the Clinton e-mails show up in connection with some sort of pay-to-play investigation; or perhaps some sort of investigation involving espionage and/or illegal release of classified information to unwholesome people.

The importance of her e-mails showing up in a Pay-to-play investigation is obvious, especially if the Clinton Foundation is also involved.

The importance of them showing up in an espionage/illegal release investigation is that now her e-mail server arrangement has demonstrably compromised national security.

There was one wikileak I found last night where it appeared Podesta was discussing an undercover operative. I didn't follow up to see if that name or discussion continued on any other email.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,231866.0.html

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« Reply #137 on: October 28, 2016, 03:09:54 pm »
Kruggy channels his inner Trump:





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« Reply #138 on: October 28, 2016, 03:13:25 pm »
Rush was just talking about the below Kim Dotcom connection to the new emails. 

X-Keyscore
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XKeyscore

Shouldnt need to 'hack' anything to retrieve emails which were written by govt employees.   In fact its against the law to NOT have those on a govt server.

Of course the public doesnt have access to them but the FBI should.  Without any of this fancy footwork and excuses they've been putting out.

The FBI has been politicized and is a corrupt organization.   Nothing they do can be believed  until they clean house and prosecute those inside and outside who have had a hand in the coverup.
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« Reply #139 on: October 28, 2016, 03:13:58 pm »
Erick Erickson ‏@EWErickson 1m1 minute ago

So FBI finds new emails on a new device in an unrelated investigation that relates back to Clinton?  Huma/Weiner?
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« Reply #140 on: October 28, 2016, 03:14:55 pm »
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« Reply #141 on: October 28, 2016, 03:15:04 pm »
I posit that it's all (this latest announcement of reopening the "case") just another distraction and deflection.  Yeah, Rush.  I'm the cynic.  And none of this will negatively impact the Hillary campaign enough to result in a Clinton loss....

unfortunately.

I agree with you. Remember the coughing fits; the crossed eyes, the near fainting on 9/11? And other health issues?

Were these just designed to distract and get us talking about the non-issues?

If anything - Clinton probably learned a great deal from Obama on how to Alinsky the public with diversions.

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« Reply #142 on: October 28, 2016, 03:15:07 pm »
Steve Brusk ‏@stevebruskCNN 2m2 minutes ago

Sen. Judiciary Comm. Chair Chuck Grassley has formally requested a private briefing by FBI to learn as much information as he can on probe
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« Reply #143 on: October 28, 2016, 03:15:27 pm »
By Rosalind S. Helderman October 28 at 2:19 PM

The FBI will investigate whether additional classified material is contained in emails sent using Hillary Clinton’s private email server while she was secretary of state, FBI Director James B. Comey informed congressional leaders Friday.

The announcement appears to restart the FBI’s probe of Clinton’s server, which previously ended in July with no charges. The explosive announcement, coming less than two weeks before the presidential election, could reshape a campaign that Clinton, the Democratic nominee, has been leading in public polls.

In a letter to congressional leaders, Comey said that the FBI, in connection with an “unrelated case,” had recently “learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the Clinton investigation.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fbi-to-conduct-new-investigation-of-emails-from-clintons-private-server/2016/10/28/0b1e9468-9d31-11e6-9980-50913d68eacb_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_no-name%3Apage%2Fbreaking-news-bar&tid=a_breakingnews

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« Reply #144 on: October 28, 2016, 03:16:25 pm »
Unfortunately for Trump, 17 million people have already voted though.

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« Reply #145 on: October 28, 2016, 03:16:46 pm »

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FBI looking at emails from unrelated case but @realDonaldTrump says proves a criminal case. Should Comey do this so close to election?
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« Reply #146 on: October 28, 2016, 03:17:22 pm »
IMHO Comey had no choice but to reopen it. If hEhadnt...especially after covering for this Administration once already...there would have been an open revolt within the ranks at the Hoover Building.
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Rush was just talking about the below Kim Dotcom connection to the new emails. 


Haha... didn't Trump mention something about a 400 pound hacker in the debate? Could he have known?

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« Reply #148 on: October 28, 2016, 03:18:06 pm »
Unfortunately for Trump, 17 million people have already voted though.

This is why I don't believe in early voting....make voting day a national holiday so people can vote....
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The New York Times Verified acNew Emails in Clinton Case Came From Anthony Weiner’s Electronic Devices

By ADAM GOLDMAN and ALAN RAPPEPORTOCT. 28, 2016 count
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New emails tied to the FBI's Clinton inquiry were discovered during the investigation into Anthony Weiner's sexting

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/29/us/politics/fbi-hillary-clinton-email.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

New Emails in Clinton Case Came From Anthony Weiner’s Electronic Devices

By ADAM GOLDMAN and ALAN RAPPEPORTOCT. 28, 2016

WASHINGTON — Federal law enforcement officials said Friday that the new emails uncovered in the closed investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server were discovered after the F.B.I. seized electronic devices belonging to Huma Abedin, and aide to Mrs. Clinton, and her husband, Anthony Weiner.

The F.B.I. told Congress that it had uncovered new emails related to the closed investigation into whether Mrs. Clinton or her aides had mishandled classified information, potentially reigniting an issue that has weighed on the presidential campaign and offering a lifeline to Donald J. Trump less than two weeks before the election.

In a letter to Congress, the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said that emails had surfaced in an unrelated case, and that they “appear to be pertinent to the investigation.”

Mr. Comey said the F.B.I. was taking steps to “determine whether they contain classified information, as well as to assess their importance to our investigation.” He said he did not know how long it would take to review the emails, or whether the new information was significant.

The announcement comes as Mr. Trump has fallen behind Mrs. Clinton in most national polls and in many battleground states. Polls have been tightening in recent days, however, amid the daily release of hacked Clinton campaign emails published by WikiLeaks.

Mr. Trump seized on the F.B.I. action on Friday at a rally in New Hampshire. To cheers of “lock her up” from his supporters, Mr. Trump said: “Hillary Clinton’s corruption is on a scale we have never seen before. We must not let her take her criminal scheme into the Oval Office.”

After deriding the F.B.I. for weeks as inept and corrupt, Mr. Trump went on to praise the law enforcement agency.

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