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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #125 on: October 19, 2016, 07:32:58 pm »
He bragged that he could do it because he was rich and could get away with it.

No, he didn't.

Again, more is being read into his words than are there.

He said "star" not "rich".

Do you really deny that many women throw themselves at stars?  Wow...that's not a very reality-based understanding of the world.  I've been close to that world in my previous job... I never saw sexual assault, but I saw a lot of women acting exactly as Trump described, very willing participants to whatever a star wanted.

You are presumably a lady, from what I've seen on here...so it's not your world.  But don't assume things in his words just because it's not something you'd participate in.
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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #126 on: October 19, 2016, 07:33:04 pm »
I really cannot believe the stupidity that has gripped this site.

Ignore Donald Trump for a moment.  I know that's a hard thing for some of you sociopaths.

Hillary Clinton - day by day, revelation after revelation - has demonstrated that she is the most dangerous, corrupt and treacherous political figure in the history of our wonderful American Republic.

This "First Woman" -after this "First Black guy" is going to throw our beautiful American experiment ... salvaged by the lives of over 1.5 million soldiers in our Civil War and others ... 

You folks don't like Trump?  You think he's a boor, a buffoon, a huckster?    Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt political figure in America's history.   The Podesta emails and this stuff by Project Veritas should inform EVERY patriotic and informed person about what to do November 8.

Some of you have spent every moment of every single day the last six months ridiculing and demeaning Trump.  I did too, back "then".  Now, we are seeing the treacherous corruption of Hillary Clinton, Accomplice Meia and this Soros-led Leftist conspiracy.

Hey, jackasses:  IT IS NOW TRUMP VS. HILLARY.

Make your mark   Tell us who you are voting for or against. 
I expect an onslaught of "oh so principled conservative" bullshit.  You better be ready to make an argument why any Trump presidency is WORSE than the Hillary reign of Socialist Terror.

I'm fit to fight, punks.  Let's GO!

This is a conservative website?  Bullshat.  This is like DU or DailyKos.

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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #127 on: October 19, 2016, 07:33:11 pm »
I really cannot believe the stupidity that has gripped this site.

Ignore Donald Trump for a moment.  I know that's a hard thing for some of you sociopaths.

Hillary Clinton - day by day, revelation after revelation - has demonstrated that she is the most dangerous, corrupt and treacherous political figure in the history of our wonderful American Republic.

This "First Woman" -after this "First Black guy" is going to throw our beautiful American experiment ... salvaged by the lives of over 1.5 million soldiers in our Civil War and others ... 

You folks don't like Trump?  You think he's a boor, a buffoon, a huckster?    Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt political figure in America's history.   The Podesta emails and this stuff by Project Veritas should inform EVERY patriotic and informed person about what to do November 8.

Some of you have spent every moment of every single day the last six months ridiculing and demeaning Trump.  I did too, back "then".  Now, we are seeing the treacherous corruption of Hillary Clinton, Accomplice Meia and this Soros-led Leftist conspiracy.

Hey, jackasses:  IT IS NOW TRUMP VS. HILLARY.

Make your mark   Tell us who you are voting for or against. 
I expect an onslaught of "oh so principled conservative" bullshit.  You better be ready to make an argument why any Trump presidency is WORSE than the Hillary reign of Socialist Terror.

I'm fit to fight, punks.  Let's GO!

This is a conservative website?  Bullshat.  This is like DU or DailyKos.

You would be better fit for a straight jacket.

Don't let the door hit you etc.

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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #128 on: October 19, 2016, 07:33:48 pm »
pod people

Like the old saying goes: When you dance with the devil, you don't change the devil, he changes you.

Once you sell  your soul for the Orange Cheeto Lord, you never get it back.

I swear I didn't read this "pod person" post before I posted my own.

Some of these people have seriously become the antithesis of what they once were.

How does Trump love DO that to formerly decent people??
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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #129 on: October 19, 2016, 07:35:06 pm »
If you are going to cut and paste propaganda, at least spell check it so you don't look so unintelligent. We all make mistakes, but that one has been pointed out to you repeatedly.

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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #130 on: October 19, 2016, 07:35:31 pm »
I swear I didn't read this "pod person" post before I posted my own.

Some of these people have seriously become the antithesis of what they once were.

How does Trump love DO that to formerly decent people??

They were never decent people. they hid what they really are.

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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #131 on: October 19, 2016, 07:35:35 pm »
You would be better fit for a straight jacket.

Don't let the door hit you etc.

Norm, I'd slap you and you wouldn't do jack.


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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #132 on: October 19, 2016, 07:36:12 pm »
No, he didn't.

Again, more is being read into his words than are there.

He said "star" not "rich".

Do you really deny that many women throw themselves at stars?  Wow...that's not a very reality-based understanding of the world.  I've been close to that world in my previous job... I never saw sexual assault, but I saw a lot of women acting exactly as Trump described, very willing participants to whatever a star wanted.

You are presumably a lady, from what I've seen on here...so it's not your world.  But don't assume things in his words just because it's not something you'd participate in.

My "world" is not that of a sexual predator..... that's true.  But I have a daughter who works with the victims of men like Donald Trump.

You're mincing words and trying to make what is go away.

Wealth and stardom are power.  Power makes evil men think they can do whatever they want.  Donald Trump expressed that view of himself clearly.

He IS a predator.  Even if the women were groupies, he molested them.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #133 on: October 19, 2016, 07:37:00 pm »
My favorite ballet issue; do we choose Don Quixote or La Bayadere?

I usually just put on my tutu and dance in front of the...

Er....

Nevermind...

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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #134 on: October 19, 2016, 07:37:52 pm »
Norm, I'd slap you and you wouldn't do jack.

Whatever you gotta tell yourself to get through the day I guess.

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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #135 on: October 19, 2016, 07:37:53 pm »
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Make your mark   Tell us who you are voting for or against.

  I'm VOTING against Hellary and Trump, but, I haven't decided whether I will Write-In Castle or McMullin, leaning towards Castle right now.
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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #136 on: October 19, 2016, 07:37:57 pm »
They were never decent people. they hid what they really are.

I disagree.

I think Arne was a good person.  He would never have posted that ugly rot before.  He's changed.

He knows full well that I'm a conservative who opposes Hillary, and he just lied outright to me.

He never would have done that before.

Something has taken over him.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #137 on: October 19, 2016, 07:39:15 pm »
No, he didn't.

Again, more is being read into his words than are there.


You did it. You said women throw themselves at him. He admitted he did it uninvited.

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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #138 on: October 19, 2016, 07:39:26 pm »
I disagree.

I think Arne was a good person.  He would never have posted that ugly rot before.  He's changed.

He knows full well that I'm a conservative who opposes Hillary, and he just lied outright to me.

He never would have done that before.

Something has taken over him.

People don't change drastically. the mask just comes off.

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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #139 on: October 19, 2016, 07:40:00 pm »
Norm, I'd slap you and you wouldn't do jack.

Sorry you're not having any luck with your ED treatment.

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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #140 on: October 19, 2016, 07:40:16 pm »
You support Hillary Clinton.  Just admit it.

Then, we can talk about standards.

Speaking of standards....apparently you're unaware of this one, as well.   

I believe this forum has a rule against what you just did....ie accuse someone of supporting Hillary just because they do NOT support Donald Trump.

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« Reply #141 on: October 19, 2016, 07:40:48 pm »

Something has taken over him.

The Orange Stain.

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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #142 on: October 19, 2016, 07:43:34 pm »
I disagree.

I think Arne was a good person.  He would never have posted that ugly rot before.  He's changed.

He knows full well that I'm a conservative who opposes Hillary, and he just lied outright to me.

He never would have done that before.

Something has taken over him.

What a conundrum.   Either these Trump supporters were always 'like that' and just had you fooled.... or the mere event of Trump running for president as a Republican has changed them. 

Problem is...if it's the latter, that means that Trump is even more dangerous to the nation than we previously determined.  If he or his influence can change supposedly good conservatives into 'that'....

what ELSE can he do that is damaging and negative?  I shudder to think.
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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #143 on: October 19, 2016, 07:46:13 pm »
What a conundrum.   Either these Trump supporters were always 'like that' and just had you fooled.... or the mere event of Trump running for president as a Republican has changed them. 

Problem is...if it's the latter, that means that Trump is even more dangerous to the nation than we previously determined.  If he or his influence can change supposedly good conservatives into 'that'....

what ELSE can he do that is damaging and negative?  I shudder to think.

This is why I say, aside from their increasing threats and violent outbursts, that they are a danger to everyone around them and why it's imperative we rid them from our lives/families.

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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #144 on: October 19, 2016, 07:47:02 pm »
People don't change drastically. the mask just comes off.

Eh......  maybe you're right.

But the transformation has been breath taking.

From apparent decency to overt lying and battering.

Just because I can't support a corrupt, amoral leftist insider like Trump.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #145 on: October 19, 2016, 07:47:34 pm »
Norm, I'd slap you and you wouldn't do jack.


Take it outside you two!

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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #146 on: October 19, 2016, 07:48:01 pm »
I disagree.

I think Arne was a good person.  He would never have posted that ugly rot before.  He's changed.

He knows full well that I'm a conservative who opposes Hillary, and he just lied outright to me.

He never would have done that before.

Something has taken over him.

They actually are fantastic examples of how people do not make sound decisions when they are angry or fearful (or both).  It completely explains why Trump even made it as far as he has.

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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #147 on: October 19, 2016, 07:48:08 pm »
What a conundrum.   Either these Trump supporters were always 'like that' and just had you fooled.... or the mere event of Trump running for president as a Republican has changed them. 

Problem is...if it's the latter, that means that Trump is even more dangerous to the nation than we previously determined.  If he or his influence can change supposedly good conservatives into 'that'....

what ELSE can he do that is damaging and negative?  I shudder to think.

Wow.  You're right about that.

If Trump has changed all these people, he is exceedingly dangerous.  Even more than we thought.

Dark days....   **nononono*
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #148 on: October 19, 2016, 07:48:29 pm »
I disagree.

I think Arne was a good person.  He would never have posted that ugly rot before.  He's changed.

He knows full well that I'm a conservative who opposes Hillary, and he just lied outright to me.

He never would have done that before.

Something has taken over him.

I love ya but ... are you out of your mind?

Have you seen the recent scandals regarding the DNC/Media/Organized Crime program to take our votes and destroy our Republic???

What the F??

Donald Trump is a boorish, narcissistic BUFFOON.  I've said that from the start. 

How, in any fantasy of his going-forward treachery or danger, could he EVER be more dangerous as a candidate than we know HILLARY CLINTON IS????!!!

Grow rup, Gosh dammit. 

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?   This site is no different than Daily Kos.  F it/

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Re: WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump
« Reply #149 on: October 19, 2016, 07:49:32 pm »
They actually are fantastic examples of how people do not make sound decisions when they are angry or fearful (or both).  It completely explains why Trump even made it as far as he has.

True enough.  I have said it from the beginning.... NO good decision is ever made in anger.

I just didn't realize how much the angry support for Trump was going to suck the decency out of people.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

"Sometimes I think the Church would be better off if we would call a moratorium on activity for about six weeks and just wait on God to see what He is waiting to do for us. That's what they did before Pentecost."   - A. W. Tozer

Use the time God is giving us to seek His will and feel His presence.