The Facts about Transgenderism

[endicom]

American Thinker
Dominic A. Diorio, MD
Oct. 5, 2016

What in the world has happened to sound logical thinking by the American public? The more I read the news, the more I think that we, as a whole, have lost our minds. We have been deceived into allowing our feelings rule over truth.

I am referring to the current "craze" known as transgenderism.

More... http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/10/the_facts_about_transgenderism.html


This is political because it has been made to be. If the acceptance of transgenderism can be enforced as law then so can be mermaidism.

[ConstitutionRose]

https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children

Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is 'Mental Disorder;' Sex Change 'Biologically Impossible' - CNS News

https://www.firstthings.com/article/2004/11/surgical-sex

http://www.wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21364939

[XenaLee]

American Thinker
Dominic A. Diorio, MD
Oct. 5, 2016

What in the world has happened to sound logical thinking by the American public? The more I read the news, the more I think that we, as a whole, have lost our minds. We have been deceived into allowing our feelings rule over truth.

I am referring to the current "craze" known as transgenderism.

More... http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/10/the_facts_about_transgenderism.html


This is political because it has been made to be. If the acceptance of transgenderism can be enforced as law then so can be mermaidism.

It's much easier to defeat a nation if you can eliminate the core beliefs and values of that nation.  This latest 'transgenderism' is just one more plank of that agenda.   It's a dichotomy....that while leftists try to ""transform"" American individuality into group-think sheeple-like mentality (everyone is equal no matter what and everyone follows what government dictates)....they're also pushing the meme that individuals that choose to identify as something that they are not (via delusional, fantasy, mental illness, etc.) are to be lauded and protected by government mandate.  So it's ok to be an individual in the leftist state....as long as you self-identify as one of their protected species.

[endicom]

https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children

Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is 'Mental Disorder;' Sex Change 'Biologically Impossible' - CNS News

https://www.firstthings.com/article/2004/11/surgical-sex

http://www.wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21364939

That's good but the McHugh story comes and goes without effect and the other publications get no publicity. It's good to see others speak up.

BTW, I'm transitioning to minotaur next week. 

[ConstitutionRose]

That's good but the McHugh story comes and goes without effect and the other publications get no publicity. It's good to see others speak up.

BTW, I'm transitioning to minotaur next week.

You should post pictures.😁

[ConstitutionRose]

It is the inevitable progression of the homosexual lobby.  Just as November will follow September, the questioning and doubt around actual gender had to follow the acceptance of homosexuality as normal.  Neither are normal, but if you accept one, the other is a given.

We have a client who is a homosexual.  Successful, wealthy.  Many of his employees are also homosexuals.  Extensive exposure has convinced me that they don't so much care about "rights" as they are driven to try to make others accept them as normal.  They want their lifestyle to be considered normal. That biology argues against that just makes them mad. 

[Henry Noel]

Extensive exposure has convinced me that they don't so much care about "rights" as they are driven to try to make others accept them as normal.  They want their lifestyle to be considered normal.

That's in order to assuage their guilt, by making everybody complicit.

[Free Vulcan]

The problem with transgenderism is that if you can enshrine something that is nothing but a mental fantasy into law and society, then you can enshrine any type of heinous behavior, simply based on 'identity'.

If you truly want equality that is, like the liberals claim. If you want to pick and choose, then you make the State into the Church, by being the arbiter and enforcer of all acceptable and unacceptable 'identity' morality.

[endicom]

The problem with transgenderism is that if you can enshrine something that is nothing but a mental fantasy into law and society, then you can enshrine any type of heinous behavior, simply based on 'identity'.

Any heinous behavior or anything at all.

When it was a matter of live-and-let-live, I didn't care what other people did voluntarily. Or if I did care then that was my problem and not theirs. It's when some people impose their will on others that I must oppose the imposition.

[r9etb]

We have a client who is a homosexual.  Successful, wealthy.  Many of his employees are also homosexuals.  Extensive exposure has convinced me that they don't so much care about "rights" as they are driven to try to make others accept them as normal.  They want their lifestyle to be considered normal. That biology argues against that just makes them mad.

I think this is correct. 

The desire to be seen as "normal" is certainly understandable.  Nobody likes to think of themselves, or to be thought of, as "abnormal."

The problem is, of course, that homosexuality is not "normal" in the sense of being counted among "the usual, average, or typical state or condition." 

The "usual condition" for humans everywhere is a proper correspondence between biological and psychological characteristics -- people with boy parts liking people with girl parts, and vice versa.  And of course "normal" corresponds to the usual biological processes of reproduction.  It all fits together.

Of course, everybody knows this, and everybody knows that homosexual behavior is outside this norm, and can never be made to fit within it: it's pretty much impossible.

So what we're really seeing is an attempt to enforce a pretense of normality.  Same-sex "marriage" is the same as normal marriage; I can choose whether or not to honor the normal correspondence between biology and psychology; and so on.

[ConstitutionRose]

I think this is correct. 

The desire to be seen as "normal" is certainly understandable.  Nobody likes to think of themselves, or to be thought of, as "abnormal."

The problem is, of course, that homosexuality is not "normal" in the sense of being counted among "the usual, average, or typical state or condition." 

The "usual condition" for humans everywhere is a proper correspondence between biological and psychological characteristics -- people with boy parts liking people with girl parts, and vice versa.  And of course "normal" corresponds to the usual biological processes of reproduction.  It all fits together.

Of course, everybody knows this, and everybody knows that homosexual behavior is outside this norm, and can never be made to fit within it: it's pretty much impossible.

So what we're really seeing is an attempt to enforce a pretense of normality.  Same-sex "marriage" is the same as normal marriage; I can choose whether or not to honor the normal correspondence between biology and psychology; and so on.

Good post.  Like how you added detail and enlarged on my observations.

[DiogenesLamp]

American Thinker
Dominic A. Diorio, MD
Oct. 5, 2016

What in the world has happened to sound logical thinking by the American public? The more I read the news, the more I think that we, as a whole, have lost our minds. We have been deceived into allowing our feelings rule over truth.

I am referring to the current "craze" known as transgenderism.

More... http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/10/the_facts_about_transgenderism.html


This is political because it has been made to be. If the acceptance of transgenderism can be enforced as law then so can be mermaidism.

OMG!  A different topic than "Trump is worse than Hitlery!"?   



To speak to your point,  so can be "transracialism".   


In which case we should all chose to be black female lesbians,  because then we get affirmative entries/hires in all academia/government jobs, etc. 

[DiogenesLamp]

That's good but the McHugh story comes and goes without effect and the other publications get no publicity. It's good to see others speak up.

The problem is Media.  They own it and we don't.   If we owned it,  Bill Clinton would never have been President.  (Neither Would George HW Bush.)   


I used to think the media was liberal because liberals naturally gravitate towards those jobs,  but I have recently began to think that the media is liberal precisely because this most suits the financial interests of the people holding their leash.   


A *LOT* of people make a *LOT* of money off of irrational government expenditures and programs,  and these people more or less own the media. 


Their pet "journalists"  know which side their bread is buttered on.

[DiogenesLamp]

We have a client who is a homosexual.  Successful, wealthy.  Many of his employees are also homosexuals.  Extensive exposure has convinced me that they don't so much care about "rights" as they are driven to try to make others accept them as normal.  They want their lifestyle to be considered normal. That biology argues against that just makes them mad.

They aren't interested in arguing facts,  they are interested in believing what they wish to be true. 


The problem is,  they don't even believe it themselves,  that's why they want constant reassurance that they are "normal."   

[DiogenesLamp]

That's in order to assuage their guilt, by making everybody complicit.

To aid them in their self delusion.   They want affirmation,  and they want it precisely because deep down in their soul they don't believe they are normal. 


Nobody wants to be a freak.   

[sinkspur]

Why is this in politics?  It should be in the science forum.

[endicom]

OMG!  A different topic than "Trump is worse than Hitlery!"?   

Well, there are some 18,000 such comments so a change was due.

[endicom]

I used to think the media was liberal because liberals naturally gravitate towards those jobs,  but I have recently began to think that the media is liberal precisely because this most suits the financial interests of the people holding their leash.   


A *LOT* of people make a *LOT* of money off of irrational government expenditures and programs,  and these people more or less own the media. 


Their pet "journalists"  know which side their bread is buttered on.

Yeah, "follow the money" is always good advice. But then the herd instinct is strong. Few risk being ostracized so most will go with the herd or will pretend to.

And that leads to some thoughts about Trump. Intentionally or not, he's breaking the mold. The moldy hold we've been stuck in with the steamship Dems and drag anchor Pubs. I suspect that few of his supporters really give a crap about him. What they do care about is finding a way out of the hold as the Federal galley slaves. Trump has made it okay to say "No!"

[Victoria33]

Good post.  Like how you added detail and enlarged on my observations.

@ConstitutionRose

I don't see/hear "normal' men and women constantly tell others they are male or female.  I don't recall pointing that out to anyone about me.   However, those who think they are other than what they were born to be, seem to spend a good part of their life pointing out to others they are "gay" or whatever other not normal name they think they are.  It is like "Look at me!  I'm different, see, I'm different!"  And they keep it up forever.  We have an extended family member who is gay and this person told us he/she is gay.  So, we said, "Okay, it doesn't matter to us."  That is all we said and went to another subject. 

Also, "normal" men and women don't have parades to celebrate we are "normal".  However, those with so many different sexual persuasion names, have parades where they wear almost nothing clothing and rainbow colors to again say, "Look at us!  We are different, see, we are different!"   I say if they want to be considered normal, then shut up and live your life as normal as we normal people do.  You cannot be considered normal if you constantly yell, "I'm different!  Look at me!"

[bigheadfred]

American Thinker
Dominic A. Diorio, MD
Oct. 5, 2016

What in the world has happened to sound logical thinking by the American public? The more I read the news, the more I think that we, as a whole, have lost our minds. We have been deceived into allowing our feelings rule over truth.

I am referring to the current "craze" known as transgenderism.

More... http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/10/the_facts_about_transgenderism.html


This is political because it has been made to be. If the acceptance of transgenderism can be enforced as law then so can be mermaidism.

A LIE BELIEVED BY EVERYBODY IS NOT THE TRUTH

[chae]

I kinda know a woman who says she is transgender.  She has legally changed her name from Heather to Zach.  She wears men's clothes but as far as I know she's not doing anything surgically.  Her husband is fine with it, and her daughter seems to be fine with it.  She's an author and involved in the sci-fi comic-con community and she's not hurting anybody, but here is the thing, she doesn't advertise it.  She goes about her life, writes her books and doesn't talk about it unless you specifically ask her questions about it.   
I know a guy who claims to be transgender and he makes such a big issue about that and his sexuality I stopped hanging out with him.  If all you want to talk about is what you do with your genitals, I'm not going to spend time with you, you're too tedious.

[bigheadfred]

[bolobaby]

@bigheadfred

That's foolish. One does not make a choice to be a boy. But they can make a choice to start dressing like a girl and calling themselves a girl.

Similarly, one does not choose to be straight. They simply are. But they can make a choice to be deviant.

Your post is a logical fallacy that assumes certain things AREN'T some way to begin with.

[bolobaby]

I'm a lizard!



I'm a cat!



I'm a vampire!



I'm a... a... a... yeah! Look at me!



I'm a girl!

[bolobaby]

And, just because I find this hysterical...

[bolobaby]

And I also find this funny... like, "In yo' face Kanye!" funny...

[sinkspur]

@bigheadfred

That's foolish. One does not make a choice to be a boy. But they can make a choice to start dressing like a girl and calling themselves a girl.

Similarly, one does not choose to be straight. They simply are. But they can make a choice to be deviant.

Your post is a logical fallacy that assumes certain things AREN'T some way to begin with.

Given what those who are gay have to endure in terms of derision, the idea that someone would choose that lifestyle is ludicrous. 

[bigheadfred]

@bigheadfred

That's foolish. One does not make a choice to be a boy. But they can make a choice to start dressing like a girl and calling themselves a girl.

Similarly, one does not choose to be straight. They simply are. But they can make a choice to be deviant.

Your post is a logical fallacy that assumes certain things AREN'T some way to begin with.

See? You DO understand.

[chae]

Ok, I'm bisexual.  It's not a choice I made.  I am attracted to both men and women.  I've been romantically involved with both men and women.  It would be so much easier if I was only attracted to men, and only fell for men, but it is what it is.  But I reject that I "chose" this.
I think it was a combination of inclination and nurture.  I look at it on a 10 point scale.  At 10 you are totally hetero, and at 1 you are totally gay.  I think most people are born between 4-6 and then as they are raised, they either go one way or go the other way. 

[bolobaby]

Given what those who are gay have to endure in terms of derision, the idea that someone would choose that lifestyle is ludicrous.

@sinkspur

Nonsense.

Let's put aside that being gay - or at least bisexual - is now considered "fashionable" in certain circles. The Hollyweird starlets are practically tripping over themselves to claim that they have same-sex attraction. Typical attention whore crap. But, we're putting that aside.

From a practical experience perspective, I can tell you with certainty that some people CHOOSE to be gay. My sister played college basketball. Many of the girls on the team were bigger, hulking types. For them, finding love was not easy. Meanwhile, there were already girls on the team who had tried out the gay thing and it filled a much needed void in their life. A little peer pressure... an opportunity to feel loved... and, viola! Girls that weren't really gay were professing to be gay.

Interestingly, many of these girls later left school and *found husbands*. Turns out they weren't really gay - they just made a bad choice predicated on impatience.

Now, if we were to fully explore my views on this topic, you'd find that I actually DO believe some people are "born gay." Just like a believe some people are born with OCD, ADHD, schizophrenia, and a variety of other chemical imbalance illnesses that affect both behavior and identity. For some reason, however, we've medicated the HELL out of society on everything else, but have decided that any talk of treatment for homosexuality is strictly verboten, despite the risks the lifestyle poses to its population.

Why is talk of treatment forbidden? Because shrinks have placed a premium on worldly love. They believe it is key to mental health.

Want love? I have a solution which really works:

[sinkspur]

Nonsense.

Let's put aside that being gay - or at least bisexual - is now considered "fashionable" in certain circles. The Hollyweird starlets are practically tripping over themselves to claim that they have same-sex attraction. Typical attention whore crap. But, we're putting that aside.

From a practical experience perspective, I can tell you with certainty that some people CHOOSE to be gay. My sister played college basketball. Many of the girls on the team were bigger, hulking types. For them, finding love was not easy. Meanwhile, there were already girls on the team who had tried out the gay thing and it filled a much needed void in their life. A little peer pressure... an opportunity to feel loved... and, viola! Girls that weren't really gay were professing to be gay.

Interestingly, many of these girls later left school and *found husbands*. Turns out they weren't really gay - they just made a bad choice predicated on impatience.

Now, if we were to fully explore my views on this topic, you'd find that I actually DO believe some people are "born gay." Just like a believe some people are born with OCD, ADHD, schizophrenia, and a variety of other chemical imbalance illnesses that affect both behavior and identity. For some reason, however, we've medicated the HELL out of society on everything else, but have decided that any talk of treatment for homosexuality is strictly verboten, despite the risks the lifestyle poses to its population.

Why is talk of treatment forbidden? Because shrinks have placed a premium on worldly love. They believe it is key to mental health.

Want love? I have a solution which really works:

You and I disagree but I am not going to argue with you about it.

[bigheadfred]

@RAT Patrol

Modern Idolatry.

"Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things. Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever!" (Romans 1:22-25, ESV)

[sinkspur]

Derision?  Ha!  Let me introduce you to 2016 where it is the other way around.

Anyway, that is provably false just by asking yourself if there are others habits people can't give up no matter what social respect, financial situation, personal freedom or family relationship they must lose in order to keep it.  No matter what it costs, there are many people enslaved to bad habits and desires.  That's one of the great ills of society and the human condition.  That's why instruction in what is right and wrong, religion and morality, self discipline and control are all essential to a good upbringing.  Disapproval of error is not derision.  It is the only hope of a person caught up in such error.  Would you forbid AA to an alcoholic because they will tell him to stop drinking and hand out disapproval each time he falls off the wagon?  Bad sexual habits are often an addiction similar to that.  So yes, they would choose it anyway.

So you think more derision is the answer to homosexuals?  Sorry, I heartily disagree.  But I am not going to argue with  you.

And disapproval is NOT what AA is about. It's obvious you know nothing about AA.

[bigheadfred]

My wife and I attend an AA meeting once a week. She took her 16 year chip last month. It is such a good group of people we could all sit there and stare at the  ceiling not saying a word and leave feeling better about things. No preaching, no disapproval.

[bolobaby]

Ok, I'm bisexual.  It's not a choice I made.  I am attracted to both men and women.  I've been romantically involved with both men and women.  It would be so much easier if I was only attracted to men, and only fell for men, but it is what it is.  But I reject that I "chose" this.
I think it was a combination of inclination and nurture.  I look at it on a 10 point scale.  At 10 you are totally hetero, and at 1 you are totally gay.  I think most people are born between 4-6 and then as they are raised, they either go one way or go the other way. 

@chae

Look - we're all born with impulses that put space between us and God. Hell, I want to kill half of the people I meet. I also have a lustful eye which causes me to notice women all day long who aren't my wife.

The difference is that I despise those impulses and work to control them.

Am I a lustful man? Oh yeah. Have I ever cheated on my wife? Nope.

Start by understanding that we are ALL born with rotten desires inside us. We are also all born with the ability to *hate* those impulses, fight against them, and to try desperately to not act upon them.

Even the apostle Paul acknowledged an evil, sinful impulse inside him. Probably one that he acted on occasionally. Did he bugger boys? Was he a heroin addict? We'll never know what that impulse was. But he rightly reviled it for what it was.

Romans 7:14+

14We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.c For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

21So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!

So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful natured a slave to the law of sin.

Bear in mind that this is not Paul excusing his behavior. He HATES it. That is key. God will take it away at the moment of judgment, but you must WANT to let it go.

This is what it means when they say, "Jesus died for our sins." If you truly hate your sin, and are willing to part with your sin, then it will be transferred to Christ, who will take it to the cross to perish with him. Thus cleansed, you will be prepared to enter the eternal presence of God.

[bolobaby]

You and I disagree but I am not going to argue with you about it.

@sinkspur

Respect. You haz it.

[Free Vulcan]

Bottom line is, being gay is not genetic. Studies of identical twins prove that. There certainly is no genetic disposition to be the opposite sex you're born with. There may be emotional, psychological or possibly chemical reasons, but not genetic.

I have no problem if someone wants to live their life their own way, on their own time and own dime. But unfortunately these groups then demand to be elevated to special treatment as a protected class that demands I must cater to them, even if it means violating my moral principles. They call this equality.