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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #100 on: September 19, 2016, 07:54:46 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on September 19, 2016, 07:07:43 pm
Ha,ha.  You must have me mixed up with Ivanka.  BTW, she is getting Secret Service Protection now.

Wonder if her SS name is?  I heard Melinia's is   "Peggy"? 

What is problem please?
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #101 on: September 19, 2016, 07:58:34 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on September 19, 2016, 06:57:56 pm
Actually, the point is that Cruz is in your head.  He's a better man in every way than Trump is and he didn't follow the herd in endorsing Trump.  The best thing that could happen to Trump supporters would be for Trump to lose.

Then they can live their lives in glorious 'what might have beens' and never have to face the disastrous reality of a trump presidency.

Your kind gave us Obama, the Primaries are over.

Post shows the usual "Trump Hate", "orange one" and so on, If the Cruz campaign never did any wrong, then, why did they apologize a number of times? Why did Cruz ask for a meeting with Carson, that's in the news.

If Cruz is better than Trump in every way, Perry, Walker, Kasich are all better men than cheating Cruz in every way.

If one wants to deny the truth of the Cruz campaign issuing apologies, have at it.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #102 on: September 19, 2016, 08:07:03 pm »
Quote from: RAT Patrol on September 19, 2016, 07:59:06 pm
You know, that "Constitution worship" comment reminds me of liberal "Christians" who try to say biblical Christians are "Bible worshipers."  It is just a slam to get people to back away from the truth.

In the case of the Constitution, it is what makes us exceptional.  We are not intrinsically exceptional.  American exceptionalism is about the Constitution and the rights of the people that are God given and therefore unalienable.....who those people are, background, ethnicity, etc., matter not.    All citizens are equal under the law and even the alien has certain rights (though not those of citizenship).  Gov't represents the people, they do not rule the people.    Etc.

 :thumbsup:

And yes, that's how it is "supposed" to work.  However, we haven't had a representative republic for some time now.  We are no longer being represented in DC.  They treat us as if we are the slaves and they are the slave masters.

The only thing restraining these slave masters is the US Constitution, which is why they, the elitists, hate and fear it.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #103 on: September 19, 2016, 08:07:30 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on September 19, 2016, 07:58:34 pm

If Cruz is better than Trump in every way, Perry, Walker, Kasich are all better men than cheating Cruz in every way.


So you still want to tell us that you voted for, and supported in polls, a cheating man with no accomplishments who was worse in every way than his opponents?  Then why did you support him?
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #104 on: September 19, 2016, 08:11:19 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on September 19, 2016, 07:58:34 pm
Your kind gave us Obama, the Primaries are over.

"Our kind"???

"We" gave you Obama?

That crap don't fly.

The people who actually CAST a ballot for His Heinous gave you your leader, same as the people who will cast a ballot FOR the Mao Pantsuit will give you Hildabeast.

But with all fanatical mobs who worship cults of personality, the blame is always hoisted upon those who do not salute and pledge their lives to their political messiahs.

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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #105 on: September 19, 2016, 08:15:42 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on September 19, 2016, 08:11:19 pm
"Our kind"???

"We" gave you Obama?

That crap don't fly.

The people who actually CAST a ballot for His Heinous gave you your leader, same as the people who will cast a ballot FOR the Mao Pantsuit will give you Hildabeast.

But with all fanatical mobs who worship cults of personality, the blame is always hoisted upon those who do not salute and pledge their lives to their political messiahs.

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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #106 on: September 19, 2016, 08:17:10 pm »
Quote from: RAT Patrol on September 19, 2016, 07:59:06 pm
You know, that "Constitution worship" comment reminds me of liberal "Christians" who try to say biblical Christians are "Bible worshipers."  It is just a slam to get people to back away from the truth.

In the case of the Constitution, it is what makes us exceptional.  We are not intrinsically exceptional.  American exceptionalism is about the Constitution and the rights of the people that are God given and therefore unalienable.....who those people are, background, ethnicity, etc., matter not.    All citizens are equal under the law and even the alien has certain rights (though not those of citizenship).  Gov't represents the people, they do not rule the people.    Etc.

Well said!!  ALL of it!  :patriot:
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #107 on: September 19, 2016, 08:18:13 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on September 19, 2016, 08:07:03 pm
:thumbsup:

And yes, that's how it is "supposed" to work.  However, we haven't had a representative republic for some time now.  We are no longer being represented in DC.  They treat us as if we are the slaves and they are the slave masters.

The only thing restraining these slave masters is the US Constitution, which is why they, the elitists, hate and fear it.

And obviously, leftist trolls do as well..........
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #108 on: September 19, 2016, 08:19:10 pm »
Quote from: RAT Patrol on September 19, 2016, 07:59:06 pm
You know, that "Constitution worship" comment reminds me of liberal "Christians" who try to say biblical Christians are "Bible worshipers."  It is just a slam to get people to back away from the truth.

Exactly correct.

In order to get the principled to abandon their principles to accept that which is sin or anathema to their foundations, they have to shame the foundations and the character of those who adhere to foundations as abnormal or harmful to everyone else.

It's the same thing I get from two bunches of self-identifying Christians: those pushing the Chrislam movement, and those pushing the homosexual acceptance agenda.

Trump and his militants are using the same exact tactics on principled Conservatives.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #109 on: September 19, 2016, 08:22:37 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on September 19, 2016, 08:18:13 pm
And obviously, leftist trolls do as well..........

Also called...

Trumpocrats. 
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #110 on: September 19, 2016, 08:37:02 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on September 19, 2016, 07:17:41 pm
McConnell is on the side of Trump, John Boehner supports Trump and Preibus is threatening those who don't support Trump.

Seems pretty clear cut to me.

He was certainly not their first choice, but they seem to be fine with him now.  And, they sure worked to get him the nomination at the convention. 
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #111 on: September 19, 2016, 08:38:52 pm »
Quote from: HoustonSam on September 19, 2016, 08:07:30 pm
So you still want to tell us that you voted for, and supported in polls, a cheating man with no accomplishments who was worse in every way than his opponents?  Then why did you support him?

Great question.  I'm waiting for an answer.

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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #112 on: September 19, 2016, 08:41:42 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on September 19, 2016, 08:38:52 pm
Great question.  I'm waiting for an answer.

 :boring:

Based on what I've seen of several pro-Trump posters so far, including @TomSea, you and I are both in for a long wait.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #113 on: September 19, 2016, 09:07:39 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on September 19, 2016, 08:22:37 pm
Also called...

Trumpocrats.

Perfect!   :beer:
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #114 on: September 19, 2016, 09:08:14 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on September 19, 2016, 03:51:37 pm
Sour grapes?  :silly:  Winner of a contest doesn't have sour grapes -- losers do. Donald Trump was the winner. No need to thank me for that information. I'm here to help.

Back to "Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump"

You know, a lot of folks throwing stones at me now used to be friendly to me, wished me happy birthday, said nice things about me for years, that is before Donald Trump. Think about that.

Politics.
You're right, Losers do. Trump won't get an endorsement from Ted after the crap trump pulled. He loses. He's a loser, I don't care if he gets 300 electoral votes, it won't change the man.

Maybe you have changed while supporting Trump. Ever consider that? A lot of people have, because Trump does not bring out the best in them. Do think about that.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #115 on: September 19, 2016, 09:08:41 pm »
Quote from: HoustonSam on September 19, 2016, 08:41:42 pm
Based on what I've seen of several pro-Trump posters so far, including @TomSea, you and I are both in for a long wait.

Here and on other sites, they all preface their Cruz criticism with 'I used to support the guy' then go on to repeat the typical invalidated talking point slander.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #116 on: September 19, 2016, 09:11:10 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on September 19, 2016, 02:44:46 pm


Mark Levin talks up a good game, but again, he's got his Constitution worship but low on the accomplishment side per affecting actual law.

Hmmm....

Speaking for myself, I prefer the Constitution over "accomplishments" from the political class
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #117 on: September 19, 2016, 09:12:36 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on September 19, 2016, 05:01:20 pm
We can all be like CrippleCreek, Never Romney, Never Trump,

Be principled backing up someone who has never had a leadership position like governor and who has minimal accomplishments to such governors in enacting real law.
And Trump was governor of what? He doesn't even know how a bill is put in the hopper, he just paid people to take care of that. Buying politicians isn't exactly political experience.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #118 on: September 19, 2016, 09:14:16 pm »
Quote from: RAT Patrol on September 19, 2016, 09:12:02 pm
That is a common ruse.  I used to be into the local newspaper opinion pages.  I read them daily.  It is very common for people to say things like "I am a Republican BUT...." and then completely side with the Democrats on everything.  There are zillions of examples.  I guess people are still falling for it.  Not me.  I've had that number figured out years ago.   With the Trump gang we are seeing a reprisal of all sorts of con games like that.

I immediately write those people off.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #119 on: September 19, 2016, 09:19:31 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 19, 2016, 09:08:14 pm
You're right, Losers do. Trump won't get an endorsement from Ted after the crap trump pulled. He loses. He's a loser, I don't care if he gets 300 electoral votes, it won't change the man.

Maybe you have changed while supporting Trump. Ever consider that? A lot of people have, because Trump does not bring out the best in them. Do think about that.

Oh heavens....it can't possibly be that!  You know that with Trumpocrats (and leftists)....

it's always 'It's you, not me'....lolol

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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #120 on: September 19, 2016, 09:26:09 pm »
Quote from: RAT Patrol on September 19, 2016, 09:12:02 pm
That is a common ruse.  I used to be into the local newspaper opinion pages.  I read them daily.  It is very common for people to say things like "I am a Republican BUT...." and then completely side with the Democrats on everything.  There are zillions of examples.  I guess people are still falling for it.  Not me.  I've had that number figured out years ago.   With the Trump gang we are seeing a reprisal of all sorts of con games like that.

Its also a favorite seminar caller trick.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #121 on: September 19, 2016, 09:27:43 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on September 19, 2016, 07:17:41 pm
McConnell is on the side of Trump, John Boehner supports Trump and Preibus is threatening those who don't support Trump.

Seems pretty clear cut to me.

So you expected the party leadership to NOT support and he party's nominee?
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #122 on: September 19, 2016, 09:28:09 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on September 19, 2016, 09:19:31 pm
Oh heavens....it can't possibly be that!  You know that with Trumpocrats (and leftists)....

it's always 'It's you, not me'....lolol

The fact that JR at TOS threatens to ban anyone who posts links to any of his comments about Trump from a couple years ago tells me that he knows he's swimming in a sewer.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #123 on: September 19, 2016, 09:39:39 pm »
Quote from: Luis Gonzalez on September 19, 2016, 09:27:43 pm
So you expected the party leadership to NOT support and he party's nominee?

They were clearly supporting him before he became the nominee - and helped him become the nominee.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #124 on: September 19, 2016, 09:40:18 pm »
Quote from: RAT Patrol on September 19, 2016, 09:12:02 pm
That is a common ruse.  I used to be into the local newspaper opinion pages.  I read them daily.  It is very common for people to say things like "I am a Republican BUT...." and then completely side with the Democrats on everything.  There are zillions of examples.  I guess people are still falling for it.  Not me.  I've had that number figured out years ago.   With the Trump gang we are seeing a reprisal of all sorts of con games like that.
It was common as cat crap in a litter box at TOS. I wish I had ten bucks for every time some poster would pipe up with"That's it! I'm not supporting Cruz any more! Not after (lie du jour about Cruz)". Then you'd go back through their posting history and see those posts on almost a daily basis...

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