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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2016, 07:59:22 pm »
Quote from: Longmire on September 08, 2016, 07:29:42 pm
@AbaraXas

I think you've described the situation pretty well. When the party and its leaders no longer espouse the things you believe in, its time to get out. Cruz's inability to put his country and his party over his own "principles" render him a Republican in name only. This will become more apparent when Trump wins and the GOP challenges Cruz for his Senate seat.

Which is worse, being a RINO, or a CINO?
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2016, 08:18:59 pm »
Quote from: SirLinksALot on September 08, 2016, 07:59:22 pm
Which is worse, being a RINO, or a CINO?

They're both just labels but I suppose it would depend whether you identify as a die hard Republican or die hard Conservative.

Recent behavior by the DC establishment informs me that the old Left/Right Democrat/Republican paradigm is crumbling. Cruz leaving the GOP would solidify his position outside the DC establishment and would better define the transition taking place. I doubt he has the courage to do that however.
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2016, 08:46:19 pm »
Quote from: thackney on September 08, 2016, 05:42:53 pm
Both were running to be a first time Senator.  Incumbent Republican U.S. Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison decided to retire instead of running for re-election to a fourth full term.

Not only that but Dewhurst was the LT Governor. The most powerful position in TX. A non-endorsement is a tacit endorsement of his opposition.
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2016, 09:06:25 pm »
Quote from: SirLinksALot on September 08, 2016, 03:01:04 pm

To be fair, however, Cornyn also refuses to endorse or back McCaul in his reelection bid.

"I'm not going to get involved in any primary races particularly with my colleagues in the Senate," Cornyn said. "We'll see what happens, but we've got plenty to worry about between now and November 2016 before we start worrying about November 2018."

So, uh, why is this a story?  As it turns out, Cornyn doesn't endorse anyone in presidential primaries either.  He didn't endorse McCain in 2008 until after Romney dropped out, and didn't endorse Romney in 2012 until April, when he pretty much had the nomination locked up.

http://amarillo.com/news/2016-04-07/john-cornyn-still-not-endorsing-ted-cruz



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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2016, 09:21:04 pm »
Quote from: Longmire on September 08, 2016, 03:12:49 pm
Perceived slight...what color koolaid are these folks drinking?  :shrug:

LOL!

Cruz, and only Cruz, put himself in an untenable political position.  If Trump loses, Cruz carries that stain forward.  If Trump wins, Cruz is (even further) marginalized.

For a smart man, it appears having an aptitude for strategy is not in his wheelhouse.
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2016, 09:24:22 pm »
I looked long and hard at Senator Cruz and was ready to give him my full support.  Now, I don't know what to make of him.  Maybe the next time.
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2016, 09:29:45 pm »
Voters seem in the mood for change. And that's a good thing.

I see you're new here, @EdJames. Welcome!
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2016, 09:42:06 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on September 08, 2016, 09:29:45 pm
Voters seem in the mood for change. And that's a good thing.

I see you're new here, @EdJames. Welcome!
We can only hope.
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2016, 09:42:44 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on September 08, 2016, 09:21:04 pm

  If Trump loses, Cruz carries that stain forward.

Nope, only a nutjob named trump is responsible for his loss.
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2016, 09:49:54 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on September 08, 2016, 09:29:45 pm
Voters seem in the mood for change. And that's a good thing.

I see you're new here, @EdJames. Welcome!

Thank you alingcate, I too am looking for a change.  8 years of Obama has caused severe damage, 8 years of Hillary will more or less ice the cake, the way that I see it.
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #35 on: September 08, 2016, 09:53:52 pm »
Quote from: EdJames on September 08, 2016, 09:24:22 pm
I looked long and hard at Senator Cruz and was ready to give him my full support.  Now, I don't know what to make of him.  Maybe the next time.

Howdy I see you are new here!  Enjoy! @EdJames
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2016, 09:55:30 pm »
Looking forward to seeing more of you. Cheers!  :patriot:
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #37 on: September 08, 2016, 10:22:07 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on September 08, 2016, 09:21:04 pm
LOL!

Cruz, and only Cruz, put himself in an untenable political position.  If Trump loses, Cruz carries that stain forward.  If Trump wins, Cruz is (even further) marginalized.

For a smart man, it appears having an aptitude for strategy is not in his wheelhouse.

This is the biggest pile of stinking garbage I've seen in a long while. What kind of man supports someone who insults his wife. promotes lies about some "alleged extramarital affairs", creates conspiracies about his father being involved in killing a POTUS, and lies about his campaign tactics. I have no respect for any of the candidates who were treated badly by Trump and now support him.

If there is no place for Sen Cruz in this "new" Pub party count me out.
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2016, 10:26:18 pm »
Quote from: bilo on September 08, 2016, 10:22:07 pm
This is the biggest pile of stinking garbage I've seen in a long while. What kind of man supports someone who insults his wife. promotes lies about some "alleged extramarital affairs", creates conspiracies about his father being involved in killing a POTUS, and lies about his campaign tactics. I have no respect for any of the candidates who were treated badly by Trump and now support him.

If there is no place for Sen Cruz in this "new" Pub party count me out.

Yep, my take is that the GOPE and trump are forging the new Democrat party. Or rather the old one circa 1970.
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #39 on: September 09, 2016, 12:52:50 am »
Quote from: bilo on September 08, 2016, 10:22:07 pm
If there is no place for Sen Cruz in this "new" Pub party count me out.

Talk to Cruz, its his move.
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #40 on: September 09, 2016, 01:01:21 am »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on September 08, 2016, 03:06:22 pm
LOL. So Cruz not getting an endorsement from an establishment hack is a bad thing? Nice try. Thanks for playing.

God PLEASE let it be true!
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #41 on: September 09, 2016, 01:03:07 am »
Quote from: catfish1957 on September 08, 2016, 03:44:32 pm
I might have to spend some money in 2020 to unseat Cornyn.  POS RINO.....

I'm sure Mr. cruz will also be in for some payback.

I'll assure you that I will be HEAVILY involved in that effort!  As a matter of fact, I didn't vote for the POS in his LAST primary!
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #42 on: September 09, 2016, 01:06:17 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on September 08, 2016, 09:21:04 pm
LOL!

Cruz, and only Cruz, put himself in an untenable political position.  If Trump loses, Cruz carries that stain forward.  If Trump wins, Cruz is (even further) marginalized.

For a smart man, it appears having an aptitude for strategy is not in his wheelhouse.

Yeah.  "Vote your conscience" is to Trumpkins what a cross is to Dracula. 

Trump is going to lose and Cruz is going to win his reelection bid handily.  McCaul won't even challenge him.

Texas Republicans are not enthralled with Trump.   
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #43 on: September 09, 2016, 01:07:29 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on September 08, 2016, 09:21:04 pm
LOL!

Cruz, and only Cruz, put himself in an untenable political position.  If Trump loses, Cruz carries that stain forward.  If Trump wins, Cruz is (even further) marginalized.

For a smart man, it appears having an aptitude for strategy is not in his wheelhouse.

If you really think Ted Cruz is in ANY kind of "untenable" political position you are even more crazy than I first imagined!

At the VERY least Ted Cruz will be a U.S. Senator from Texas for as long as he desires the position!
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #44 on: September 09, 2016, 01:27:33 am »
Quote from: Bigun on September 09, 2016, 01:07:29 am
At the VERY least Ted Cruz will be a U.S. Senator from Texas for as long as he desires the position!

Cruz will be opposed by a well financed opponent in the GOP primary and if Trump loses it'll be someone already polling ahead of him in Texas.

He's gonna be toast, the only question is how burnt.  :laugh:
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #45 on: September 09, 2016, 01:31:20 am »
Quote from: Bigun on September 09, 2016, 01:07:29 am
If you really think Ted Cruz is in ANY kind of "untenable" political position you are even more crazy than I first imagined!

At the VERY least Ted Cruz will be a U.S. Senator from Texas for as long as he desires the position!

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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #46 on: September 09, 2016, 01:41:05 am »
Quote from: Longmire on September 09, 2016, 01:27:33 am
Cruz will be opposed by a well financed opponent in the GOP primary and if Trump loses it'll be someone already polling ahead of him in Texas.

He's gonna be toast, the only question is how burnt.  :laugh:

LOL!  Do you live in Texas?  Even if you do, you don't know jack.  Trump is not all that popular in Texas, not like previous nominees.  Cruz  (while I can't really stand him) IS popular and will win reelection easily. 

Almost any GOP officeholder polls ahead of Trump in Texas.  Texas GOP Senators tend to be lifers (i.e., Kay Bailey Hutchison) and Cruz will be no different because he knows how to work his state.

And, if Trump loses, Cruz can crow about not endorsing an 'effing loser.
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #47 on: September 09, 2016, 01:45:16 am »
   The hate for Christy, Carson, Coulter, Rush, Sowell and even Levin is only skin deep, BUT the hate the Trumpsters have for CRUZ is BONE DEEP.



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And I’m always being told New York is a hellhole and Texas is the bastion of American values. At least, Ted Cruz told me that.


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Lyin’ Ted?


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Lies about everything, apparently.


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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #48 on: September 09, 2016, 01:51:21 am »
Quote from: Bigun on September 09, 2016, 01:07:29 am
If you really think Ted Cruz is in ANY kind of "untenable" political position you are even more crazy than I first imagined!

Well, putting aside your rather frightening imagination, Ted Cruz is between that proverbial rock and a hard place in the Republican Party.  He, the man, has been extremely disliked since he stepped foot in the Capitol.  His not supporting the Republican nominee has deepened this dislike.  No matter the outcome of the election, Ted Cruz has seriously hurt himself within the Party.

He can always leave the party----but this would be another unsuccessful tantrum because the line holding the door open for him would long and deep.     

Untenable. :shrug:
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Re: Senate Majority Whip Senator John Cornyn Says He Won’t Be Helping Ted Cruz In His Reelection Bid
« Reply #49 on: September 09, 2016, 01:56:09 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on September 09, 2016, 01:51:21 am
Well, putting aside your rather frightening imagination, Ted Cruz is between that proverbial rock and a hard place in the Republican Party.  He, the man, has been extremely disliked since he stepped foot in the Capitol.  His not supporting the Republican nominee has deepened this dislike.  No matter the outcome of the election, Ted Cruz has seriously hurt himself within the Party.

He can always leave the party----but this would be another unsuccessful tantrum because the line holding the door open for him would long and deep.     

Untenable. :shrug:

Hey, toots.  Cruz is popular in Texas, and that's all the approval he needs.

Not endorsing Trump is a badge of honor for him.  Trump is going to lose, and, when he does, Cruz will look like a friggin' genius.

Trump will likely leave the GOP and return to his natural, longstanding home with the Democrats.
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