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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2016, 01:53:24 pm »
@Victoria33

It's pretty sad that Trump "supports Catholic values the most" out of the two who are running, but I think that is what Cardinal Burke was getting at. But, Pence, Trump's VP, is not bad at all, imo, and if Trump could get in [seems doubtful he will unless Hillary dies or has a (different) major health issue], maybe Pence could take over at some point in the future. We're voting the Trump/Pence ticket for that possibility [and for what Cardinal Burke said as well] and also because Hillary is pure evil.

I firmly believe Trump will cause countries to attack us and if we are dead, there are no babies going to be born so that problem is moot.  I would rather save the country from total destruction than for Clinton being for abortion.  Neither one of them can do anything about the law that allows abortion, they can't stop it, so I don't use that as criteria for president.  Since Trump is insane, he is unpredictable and that can be deadly and I think it will be deadly.  Being dead is the worst outcome, so I won't vote for Trump as that is possible if he is president.

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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2016, 02:07:05 pm »
It doesn't surprise me. It's in the nature of politics that it makes strange bedfellows. Some of the craziest things have been done by people under the influence of political fervor.

Yes.  It's not surprising that Trump jumps in bed with the protectionists in the Democrat party.  Free trade is a Republican value, but not for the Democrat Trump.
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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2016, 02:12:43 pm »
@Victoria33

I agree with all you have said, and I think most people feel Trump is [at the very least] an eccentric character, but I thought Cardinal Burke worded it well in the following:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cardinal-burke-to-u.s.-voters-consider-candidate-who-defend-life-family-fre

It's pretty sad that Trump "supports Catholic values the most" out of the two who are running, but I think that is what Cardinal Burke was getting at. But, Pence, Trump's VP, is not bad at all, imo, and if Trump could get in [seems doubtful he will unless Hillary dies or has a (different) major health issue], maybe Pence could take over at some point in the future. We're voting the Trump/Pence ticket for that possibility [and for what Cardinal Burke said as well] and also because Hillary is pure evil.

Raymond Burke can vote for whomever he wants. His vote counts no more than mine.  But to say Trump supports "Catholic Values" is ludicrous. Donald Trump is a dangerous, egotistical, ignorant demagogue who insults anyone who disagrees with him and carries grudges.  For me, that outweighs his phony "pro-life" stance, a stance to which he came about a year ago when he decided to run for president.

Burke, with his belligerent position on many Church issues, seems like a perfect Trump guy.
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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2016, 02:27:27 pm »
Apparently it isn't just The Donald...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3466045/posts

Well, it was really nice of them to provide us with a list of who to support, henceforth. 

Also nice that they show their very Trump-like "F Word" tendencies.
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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2016, 02:27:43 pm »
A lot of people I've seen seem to hope that somehow Trump will vanish or decide he's had it and Pence will be the candidate. I think Pence would win, frankly. But Trump's ego would never let him do that, nor would it let him sit back and allow Pence to run things if trump did get elected.  So I don't see a solution to Trump, since the GOP is unwilling to act.

Personally, I think Hillary will have a "health crisis" or something that allows her to step down, since even liberal panels and analysts are aghast at her security behavior and lies and I don't think even the Dem party will defend her.  I think the Dem candidate will be Kaine, and I think he'll have no trouble winning if ours is Trump.

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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2016, 02:31:37 pm »
I firmly believe Trump will cause countries to attack us and if we are dead, there are no babies going to be born so that problem is moot.  I would rather save the country from total destruction than for Clinton being for abortion.  Neither one of them can do anything about the law that allows abortion, they can't stop it, so I don't use that as criteria for president.  Since Trump is insane, he is unpredictable and that can be deadly and I think it will be deadly.  Being dead is the worst outcome, so I won't vote for Trump as that is possible if he is president.

It's possible.....that God may indeed have "chosen" Donald J. Trump.  But....not to save America.  Much like He apparently chose Barack Hussein Obama, He may have chosen Trump to punish America.  And that punishment begins with dividing us to the point of breaking and destroying us from within (check).  And ends with the devastation that a Hillary Clinton presidency will accomplish, thanks to Trump.
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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2016, 02:35:47 pm »
A lot of people I've seen seem to hope that somehow Trump will vanish or decide he's had it and Pence will be the candidate. I think Pence would win, frankly. But Trump's ego would never let him do that, nor would it let him sit back and allow Pence to run things if trump did get elected.  So I don't see a solution to Trump, since the GOP is unwilling to act.

Personally, I think Hillary will have a "health crisis" or something that allows her to step down, since even liberal panels and analysts are aghast at her security behavior and lies and I don't think even the Dem party will defend her.  I think the Dem candidate will be Kaine, and I think he'll have no trouble winning if ours is Trump.

It's the same false and lame "hope" that folks (including me) had when we held our noses and voted for John McCain....because we conned ourselves into believing that Sarah Palin would be there to pick up the pieces.  We were sooo wrong back then...and anyone that still "thinks like that" is wrong today.  You're voting for the top position, not the VP.  And if the top candidate doesn't have the characteristics or traits that a president should have, you're voting for that candidate anyway.  And that is what they call "betraying your own principles".
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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2016, 02:45:40 pm »
Flake is an open borders apologist and a nasty sob.

Surprised to see so many "conservatives" here support him.

I for one don't defend Jeff Flake and agree with your description of him.  However, I do feel something is wrong with a candidate who is spending so much time exacting revenge on those within his own party who don't support him or who say things he doesn't like.  Not a good quality to have as President.

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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2016, 02:48:29 pm »
I for one don't defend Jeff Flake and agree with your description of him.  However, I do feel something is wrong with a candidate who is spending so much time exacting revenge on those within his own party who don't support him or who say things he doesn't like.  Not a good quality to have as President.

Trump can be baited with a TV interview or a tweet.  Just the guy to be in charge of the nuclear codes.
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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2016, 02:50:35 pm »
Free trade is a Republican value

Absolute nonsense.

Free trade is a bi-partisan issue, there are Republicans and Democrats on both sides.

In fact the 2016 GOP platform rejects "free trade" as you construe it.






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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2016, 03:04:42 pm »
Absolute nonsense.

Free trade is a bi-partisan issue, there are Republicans and Democrats on both sides.

In fact the 2016 GOP platform rejects "free trade" as you construe it.

Republicans have carried the votes on trade agreements for the last 30 years.  Free trade has been the position of the GOP until Trump came along.

Trump is a protectionist and thinks he can "renegotiate" all major trade deals.    Trade has been a net positive for the United States; Trump's position, if approved by Congress, would plunge the country into recession if not depression.

We live in a global economy and Trump is not going to change that.
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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2016, 03:51:01 pm »
Ironic that one would ask that here.

Yes, yes it is.   :smokin:

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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2016, 03:54:56 pm »
@Victoria33

I agree with all you have said, and I think most people feel Trump is [at the very least] an eccentric character, but I thought Cardinal Burke worded it well in the following:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cardinal-burke-to-u.s.-voters-consider-candidate-who-defend-life-family-fre

It's pretty sad that Trump "supports Catholic values the most" out of the two who are running, but I think that is what Cardinal Burke was getting at. But, Pence, Trump's VP, is not bad at all, imo, and if Trump could get in [seems doubtful he will unless Hillary dies or has a (different) major health issue], maybe Pence could take over at some point in the future. We're voting the Trump/Pence ticket for that possibility [and for what Cardinal Burke said as well] and also because Hillary is pure evil.

Darrell Castle supports Catholic values most.

For me, Pence's being on the ticket doesn't change things.  Trump is hard core pro-abortion.  And I can't vote for a pro-death candidate, no matter who his VP is.

It's more likely that Pence was selected to 'bribe' pro-lifers into voting for Trump.

It's not working with me.
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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2016, 03:56:03 pm »
I understand the point being made; but voting for evil (and I believe Trump to be evil) is not an option for me.  Pence is the VP in this scenario and the role of the vice president is very very limited and narrow.  We aren't voting for the VP, we are voting for our Commander in Chief. Pence may have better values, but accepting to be Trump's VP also speaks volumes.

IMHO only when we as a country vote our conscious, vote for Christian values, religious freedom and the Constitution will we have a chance at getting our country back. Voting otherwise we have absolutely zero chance. This country was founded upon Christian values and principles. Voting for evil and amoral people is why we are in the situation that we are in.

Good post!
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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2016, 04:05:21 pm »
Darrell Castle supports Catholic values most.

For me, Pence's being on the ticket doesn't change things.  Trump is hard core pro-abortion.  And I can't vote for a pro-death candidate, no matter who his VP is.

It's more likely that Pence was selected to 'bribe' pro-lifers into voting for Trump.

It's not working with me.

Exactly.  Pence is merely the bait.  The carrot on the end of the stick that Trump would use to beat any and all dissenters into silence and submission.  Trump is using Pence much like McCain used Sarah Palin.  It's not working this time.  In fact, I would say that....since some (at least) of us learned from past mistakes...

it will backfire.
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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2016, 04:09:13 pm »
Exactly.  Pence is merely the bait.  The carrot on the end of the stick that Trump would use to beat any and all dissenters into silence and submission.  Trump is using Pence much like McCain used Sarah Palin.  It's not working this time.  In fact, I would say that....since some (at least) of us learned from past mistakes...

it will backfire.

It surely will.  Fool me once, shame on you........ fool me twice........

Nope.  Not being fooled by such an obvious ploy.
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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2016, 04:29:11 pm »
Darrell Castle supports Catholic values most.

For me, Pence's being on the ticket doesn't change things.  Trump is hard core pro-abortion.  And I can't vote for a pro-death candidate, no matter who his VP is.

It's more likely that Pence was selected to 'bribe' pro-lifers into voting for Trump.

It's not working with me.
Agreed. I was suckered by the VP argument once, and looking back, "suckered" was the right word. Not again. Pence, short of impeachment, resignation, or the demise of Mr. Trump would have less actual effect on policy than the First Lady. Selling out to be number two doesn't say much, either.
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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2016, 06:30:33 pm »
Apparently it isn't just The Donald...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3466045/posts

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Wow. Just wow **nononono*

Trump's progressive supporters, not unlike Clinton's, tend to believe that the US Constitution is an archaic document. Since it was written over 200 years ago, it isn't applicable to today's issues and therefore, must be ignored in order " to get things done."  They are happy with universal healthcare, gun control, using tariffs to punish companies that don't " comply," more debt and higher deficits, using laws to punish news outlets, as long as they are doing the above

And, many of them see Trump as their personal revenge candidate. They want him to enact revenge on all those they feel have "wronged" them. There are some voices of sanity left at FR. Unfortunately, they are an increasingly dwindling minority.

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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #43 on: September 05, 2016, 06:40:27 pm »
@Smokin Joe

Wow. Just wow **nononono*

Trump's progressive supporters, not unlike Clinton's, tend to believe that the US Constitution is an archaic document. Since it was written over 200 years ago, it isn't applicable to today's issues and therefore, must be ignored in order " to get things done."  They are happy with universal healthcare, gun control, using tariffs to punish companies that don't " comply," more debt and higher deficits, using laws to punish news outlets, as long as they are doing the above

And, many of them see Trump as their personal revenge candidate. They want him to enact revenge on all those they feel have "wronged" them. There are some voices of sanity left at FR. Unfortunately, they are an increasingly dwindling minority.
I notice a lot of fresh signup dates in that lot, too. So very few rational voices, and so seldom heard. The rest are mute, avoiding politics threads completely, or gone.

What do they think they are going to do with that list? The addresses?
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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #44 on: September 05, 2016, 07:31:13 pm »
Trump's progressive supporters, not unlike Clinton's, tend to believe that the US Constitution is an archaic document. Since it was written over 200 years ago, it isn't applicable to today's issues and therefore, must be ignored in order " to get things done."

On the contrary, Trump's supporters understand the Constitution better than many so-called "conservatives" who seem quite flexible on the issue of eligibility and citizenship. They also better understand the over riding importance of maintaining a conservative majority on the USSC and how precarious the position of the court actually is.




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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #45 on: September 05, 2016, 07:34:28 pm »
On the contrary, Trump's supporters understand the Constitution better than many so-called "conservatives" who seem quite flexible on the issue of eligibility and citizenship. They also better understand the over riding importance of maintaining a conservative majority on the USSC and how precarious the position of the court actually is.
Yeah. After all Trump said he'd stand up for the Constitution, all 12 Articles of it!
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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #46 on: September 05, 2016, 07:54:15 pm »
Yeah. After all Trump said he'd stand up for the Constitution, all 12 Articles of it!

Confusing the terms articles and amendments when speaking extemporaneously is not a cardinal sin.

Pretending otherwise is a sign of confirmation bias.

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« Reply #47 on: September 05, 2016, 08:20:57 pm »
On the contrary, Trump's supporters understand the Constitution better than many so-called "conservatives" who seem quite flexible on the issue of eligibility and citizenship. They also better understand the over riding importance of maintaining a conservative majority on the USSC and how precarious the position of the court actually is.

This is, of course, your opinion.  With no supporting evidence to back it up.

My opinion is backed by the posts at the TOS.  That Trump supporters are hateful, spite-driven, raging sickos who want to lord over a ruined America.

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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #48 on: September 05, 2016, 08:24:42 pm »
On the contrary, Trump's supporters understand the Constitution better than many so-called "conservatives" who seem quite flexible on the issue of eligibility and citizenship. They also better understand the over riding importance of maintaining a conservative majority on the USSC and how precarious the position of the court actually is.

This is a joke............ right??

Trump is clueless about the Constitution, and his followers equally so...... especially with regard to the separation of powers.  Trump lackeys want a dictator, not a President.

Bringing up the Constitution as a plus for Trump or his supporters is completely devoid of fact.

But it IS pretty funny, all things considered....   :silly:
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Re: Trump Can’t Keep Himself From Attacking Republicans For One Month
« Reply #49 on: September 05, 2016, 08:29:53 pm »
Confusing the terms articles and amendments when speaking extemporaneously is not a cardinal sin.

Pretending otherwise is a sign of confirmation bias.
Unless, of course you have a fundamental ignorance of the Constitution in the first place. Seven articles, TEN amendments in the Bill of Rights, and 27 Amendments total.

Hmmmm. 12 is just not a convenient number to confuse in there, any more than Obama's 57 states.

Your bias is confirmed.
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