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Gingrich: Trump is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson
« on: August 09, 2016, 07:14:19 pm »

Gingrich: Trump is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson

By Bianca Padró Ocasio

08/09/16 02:03 PM EDT


Former Speaker Newt Gingrich didn't offer a very strong answer when asked if Donald Trump is mentally fit for office during an interview with The New York Times.

“Yeah, and my answer would be, sure,” Gingrich said.

“Sure?” Michael Barbaro asked him on the election podcast “The Run-Up” released Tuesday.

“Sure. I mean, he is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson, who was one of the most decisive presidents in American history,” Gingrich continued. “Nobody would have predicted Abraham Lincoln’s capabilities before he became president, and most people didn’t believe him while he was president.”

The interview was published after 50 Republican national security officials, including former CIA and NSA officials, signed a letter warning that Donald Trump would "risk our country’s national security and well-being.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/newt-gingrich-trump-mentally-fit-226824
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Re: Gingrich: Trump is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2016, 07:16:31 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on August 09, 2016, 07:14:19 pm
“Yeah, and my answer would be, sure,” Gingrich said.

“Sure?” ...

Say what you want about Gingrich, his answers can put a grin on my face.
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Re: Gingrich: Trump is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2016, 07:20:41 pm »
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Re: Gingrich: Trump is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2016, 07:20:57 pm »
wasn't Jackson the one with the short temper who used to duel and beat the crap out of people with his walking stick?
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Re: Gingrich: Trump is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2016, 07:25:28 pm »
Quote from: EC on August 09, 2016, 07:20:57 pm
wasn't Jackson the one with the short temper who used to duel and beat the crap out of people with his walking stick?

Well, when you look at Andy's "Indian Removal Act," one does see rather uncomfortable similarities to Trump's views on immigration.... 
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Re: Gingrich: Trump is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2016, 07:50:51 pm »
Many people are suggesting that Trump just said 2nd Amendment people could do harm to Clinton:

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Re: Gingrich: Trump is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2016, 08:02:15 pm »
Quote from: sinkspur on August 09, 2016, 07:50:51 pm
Many people are suggesting that Trump just said 2nd Amendment people could do harm to Clinton:

He's rather hinting at watering the tree of liberty, I think.  As if we needed another reason to run away from him.
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Re: Gingrich: Trump is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2016, 08:08:04 pm »
I thought Newt was trying to help Trump.....he needs to STFU
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Re: Gingrich: Trump is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2016, 08:08:28 pm »
That shouldn't be a compliment.

Jackson is responsible for the genocide of the Native Americans and the Trail of Tears. (Indian Policy & Removal Policy)
He closed the '2nd Bank of the United States' purely to wipe out his own personal debt to it, then started a new federal bank. (he falsely is given credit for closing the first 'federal reserve bank'). This 'bank war' almost destroyed the US economy and led to the Panic of 1837.
He greatly expanded federal power in the executive branch.
He broke treaties with Native nations and other nations, the latter imposing tariffs on without congressional approval.
He stole private property on a massive scale.
He pretended to be an 'every man' and played up a populism game even though he was massively wealthy and manipulated banks....

Hmmmm, maybe Newt has a point.
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Re: Gingrich: Trump is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2016, 08:12:30 pm »
Quote from: r9etb on August 09, 2016, 07:25:28 pm
Well, when you look at Andy's "Indian Removal Act," one does see rather uncomfortable similarities to Trump's views on immigration....

Like the way Jackson settled the Toledo strip "war". He promised Ohio the valuable port of Toledo if Ohio would deliver the vote for democrats over the whigs. The whigs in Michigan territory get that useless upper peninsula.

The democrats did deliver Ohio but the democrats lost the presidential race. (And got stuck with Toledo)
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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2016, 08:16:16 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on August 09, 2016, 08:12:30 pm
Like the way Jackson settled the Toledo strip "war". He promised Ohio the valuable port of Toledo if Ohio would deliver the vote for democrats over the whigs. The whigs in Michigan territory get that useless upper peninsula.

The democrats did deliver Ohio but the democrats lost the presidential race. (And got stuck with Toledo)

One of Ohio's darkest hours......    ^-^
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Re: Gingrich: Trump is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2016, 08:18:58 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on August 09, 2016, 08:08:04 pm
I thought Newt was trying to help Trump.....he needs to STFU

He's hard to help for a guy as smart as Newt.

But you're right, if he's "trying" to help, he should just be quiet.....
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Re: Gingrich: Trump is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2016, 08:19:32 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on August 09, 2016, 08:12:30 pm
The democrats did deliver Ohio but the democrats lost the presidential race. (And got stuck with Toledo)

Now, that's funny right there.
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Re: Gingrich: Trump is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2016, 03:54:15 am »
Yeah, but it's not 1828, Trump isn't a war hero and Jackson believed in States rights, not in increasing the power and size of the Federal government. Funny though that Newt compared Trump to a Democrat.
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Re: Gingrich: Trump is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2016, 04:55:39 am »
The Trail of Tears President? Yea I can see that.
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Re: Gingrich: Trump is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2016, 11:18:51 am »
I thought that Newt was a genius in history.
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2016, 11:21:30 am »
Quote from: kevindavis on August 10, 2016, 11:18:51 am
I thought that Newt was a genius in history.

He might be but he knows others aren't which makes comments like this worse.
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Re: Gingrich: Trump is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2016, 11:23:25 am »
Remind me again how many men Andy Jackson killed in duels?
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Re: Gingrich: Trump is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2016, 11:31:17 am »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on August 10, 2016, 11:21:30 am
He might be but he knows others aren't which makes comments like this worse.

That is correct. Also why praise a Democrat
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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2016, 12:36:53 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on August 09, 2016, 08:08:04 pm
I thought Newt was trying to help Trump.....he needs to STFU
LOL!!  Is that ever the truth.  Noot and the trump tend to be of kindred souls in that regard... they can have a few days of actually making sense, then fire off a missive that makes ya go, "hmmmm."
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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2016, 12:52:39 pm »
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Funny though that Newt compared Trump to a Democrat.

Heh!
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2016, 01:27:17 pm »
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The Trail of Tears President? Yea I can see that.

Don't you mean The Trail of Bovine Scatology President?
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2016, 01:41:22 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on August 09, 2016, 08:08:04 pm
I thought Newt was trying to help Trump.....he needs to STFU

I'm pretty sure that no one can do more harm to Trump than Trump.
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2016, 01:49:38 pm »

Force marching about 15,000 Cherokee Indians a 1000 miles with a 35% mortality?     Yeah that's about Trump's speed.
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Re: Gingrich: Trump is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2016, 01:57:35 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on August 09, 2016, 07:14:19 pm
Gingrich: Trump is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson

By Bianca Padró Ocasio

08/09/16 02:03 PM EDT


“Sure. I mean, he is at least as reliable as Andrew Jackson, who was one of the most decisive presidents in American history,”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/newt-gingrich-trump-mentally-fit-226824

“Andrew Jackson was a wealthy slave owner and infamous Indian killer, gaining the nickname ‘Sharp Knife’ from the Cherokee,” writes Amargi on the website Unsettling America: Decolonization in Theory & Practice. “He was also the founder of the Democratic Party, demonstrating that genocide against indigenous people is a nonpartisan issue. His first effort at Indian fighting was waging a war against the Creeks.

President Jefferson had appointed him to appropriate Creek and Cherokee lands. In his brutal military campaigns against Indians, Andrew Jackson recommended that troops systematically kill Indian women and children after massacres in order to complete the extermination. The Creeks lost 23 million acres of land in southern Georgia and central Alabama, paving the way for cotton plantation slavery. His frontier warfare and subsequent ‘negotiations’ opened up much of the southeast U.S. to settler colonialism.”   ..... more at link below  :thud:

Read more at http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2012/02/20/indian-killer-andrew-jackson-deserves-top-spot-list-worst-us-presidents-98997
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