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I thought you Trump Militants have said we are a small, fringe minority and we are totally and completely irrelevant?

How can we lead to a Clinton presidency simply because we oppose your prince when we are said that we do not matter?

And if we do somehow matter as you fear, because we adamantly refuse to support your madman - what do you intend to do about it?

Screw your militant crap. [adamantly] Every vote is going to count in this election.

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Personally, I think Heidi is a lovely woman. It's her past positions that make her and Ted ugly.

What "positions"?  She's never run for or held elective office.
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So when you wrote this :

I don't know why Cruz would be upset about that picture except for the fact he has to wake up to that mug every morning.

you meant this :

Personally, I think Heidi is a lovely woman. It's her past positions that make her and Ted ugly.

That's an insult to the intelligence of people reading this thread, just as it was when Trump tried the same pitiful evasion.  What is the purpose of insulting the wife of a man who is no longer running?  Will that draw votes away from Hillary and to Trump?  Will that sway independent, undecided voters?  Are you trying to help the Republican party gain the White House with that?
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Screw your militant crap. [adamantly] Every vote is going to count in this election.

Better get to work then on courting Bernie Supporters then.

Your continued war against those of us who refuse to bend the knee to your prince is not helping your chances.
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Some Cruz supporters show they can not carry on a conversation once again without being inflammatory:
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Your continued war against those of us who refuse to bend the knee to your prince is not helping your chances.

No, nothing like this. Some of us are loyal, we vote for the Bushes, McCains, Romney. We know the anti-Romney sentiment probably helped there be a 2nd term for Obama; they hence, helped give us Trump. Some are pragmatic and know they won't get the perfect candidate.

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So when you wrote this :

you meant this :

That's an insult to the intelligence of people reading this thread, just as it was when Trump tried the same pitiful evasion.  What is the purpose of insulting the wife of a man who is no longer running?  Will that draw votes away from Hillary and to Trump?  Will that sway independent, undecided voters?  Are you trying to help the Republican party gain the White House with that?

Once he wins the insult battle, we can all join forces on the monkey bars and keep the 5 year-olds off the playground.
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"What "positions"?  She's never run for or held elective office."

CFR, this has already been stated and Ted Cruz called CFR a pit of vipers; even though his wife was in it.

Fine, life is not perfect, they are a couple trying to build a political life as well.  We know no one is perfect but this is globalism as well.

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Heidi Cruz wrote a paragraph included under “Additional and Dissenting Views” that contended economic investment must be led by the private sector rather than government:

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    I support the Task Force report and its recommendations aimed at building a safer and more prosperous North America. Economic prosperity and a world safe from terrorism and other security threats are no doubt inextricably linked. While governments play an invaluable role in both regards, we must emphasize the imperative that economic investment be led and perpetuated by the private sector. There is no force proven like the market for aligning incentives, sourcing capital, and producing results like financial markets and profit-making businesses. This is simply necessary to sustain a higher living standard for the poorest among us – truly the measure of our success. As such, investment funds and financing mechanisms should be deemed attractive instruments by those committing the capital and should only be developed in conjunction with market participants.

The paragraph did not address the newly formed SPP, which was enthusiastically endorsed in the first two pages of the CFR report.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/03/ted-cruz-again-battles-globalist-charge-against-wife/#LQGLSLyTBU3D420U.99

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The Bible is the inspired word of God; yet, almost sinfully, out of the Cruz camp came that video where it was alleged Marco Rubio said "there are no answers in there", apparently Rubio said the opposite.

All of this points to, is these politicians are not alone in slinging mud.
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Cruz official apologizes over Rubio video alleging Bible diss
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/22/cruz-official-apologizes-over-rubio-video-alleging-bible-diss.html
For an Evangelist, a pretty bad thing to do; and yes, as always, well Ted didn't do it directly.






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Quote from: TomSea link=topic=216745 dmsg5#msg983905 date=1469298595

No, nothing like this. Some of us are loyal, we vote for the Bushes, McCains, Romney.

@TomSea

Then you clearly understand who is at fault for the position our country,our economy,and our freedoms being at risk. It was Party People like you,willing to vote for the lowest common denominator as long as it had the Big Red R on it's chest that have brought us to a point where our choice for president is between  two narcissistic sociopaths,one stupid and in love with himself,and one that is so evil she probably doesn't even love herself. She just loves to destroy people and organizations that refuse to worship her.

Was this an attempt to apologize? If it was,I didn't see the part where you say you are sorry and will never do it again.
« Last Edit: July 23, 2016, 06:45:32 pm by sneakypete »
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What "positions"?  She's never run for or held elective office.

Then you don't know much about her. She was deep into political and world banking circles as well as CFR.

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/news/a55920/heidi-cruz-ted-cruz-wife/

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The Bible is the inspired word of God; yet, almost sinfully, out of the Cruz camp came that video where it was alleged Marco Rubio said "there are no answers in there", apparently Rubio said the opposite.

All of this points to, is these politicians are not alone in slinging mud.For an Evangelist, a pretty bad thing to do; and yes, as always, well Ted didn't do it directly.

And he fired the guy who did do it directly.  What should he have done?
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Some Cruz supporters show they can not carry on a conversation once again without being inflammatory:
No, nothing like this. Some of us are loyal, we vote for the Bushes, McCains, Romney. We know the anti-Romney sentiment probably helped there be a 2nd term for Obama; they hence, helped give us Trump. Some are pragmatic and know they won't get the perfect candidate.
Loyal to what? Not principle, surely, or the Republican Party wouldn't be on a heading of 270.

If you are loyal to the Party, right or wrong, what's to stop it from being wrong?

Nothing but those who dissent from the constant drift to Port the Party has had since Reagan.
I can't remain loyal to a Party that does not espouse my principles--that's why I'm not a Democrat, a Communist, or a Socialist, either.

Until this campaign, I considered myself a Republican. That's only since Goldwater ran for President, but it ends this year.

As many here are fond of saying "I didn't leave the Republican Party, it left me.", and it did so by incremental moves, all the while decrying those of us who disagreed with those incrementally more Liberal stances as being 'disloyal'.

Well, maybe you disagree, but to me the greatest loyalties I have are to God, Family, and Country, and in that order. Within those three institutions I find the basis for the principles I hold dear, ones which there is no room for compromise.
When a political party conflicts with those principles it is my duty to either seek to change it back to being in line with those principles or to abandon it if it will not change.

My voice has not been alone in this, many have sought to return the GOP to Constitutional, moral, and fiscally sound practice, not just lip service at best, and we have been resolutely rebuffed in that.

So be it. My principles haven't changed. The Constitution hasn't changed. My God hasn't changed. Not one word of scripture has changed. And if you spend more money than you have that result hasn't changed.

All that has changed is the Republican Party's demonstrated approach to those principles. Ignore, Ignore, Ignore, and Deny.

Nothing there left to be loyal to, imho.
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If your neverTrump rhetoric leads to a Clinton presidency, then you will matter.

It is Trump that leads to a Clinton presidency

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Better get to work then on courting Bernie Supporters then.

Your continued war against those of us who refuse to bend the knee to your prince is not helping your chances.

Sanders supporters will do their party at the DNC.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/how-bernie-sanders-supporters-are-planning-to-shake-up-the-democratic-convention/

Don't worry about me, I plan on leaving this circle jerk as soon as the lube runs out. Not quite through with you just yet.

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If your neverTrump rhetoric leads to a Clinton presidency, then you will matter.

LOL you put up a flawed candidate and it's my fault? 

Man that's desperation.

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It is Trump that leads to a Clinton presidency

Keep ing that view. The Left is loving it.
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Then you don't know much about her. She was deep into political and world banking circles as well as CFR.

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/news/a55920/heidi-cruz-ted-cruz-wife/

Nonsense.  She was in no position to influence policy.  You guys are scraping the bottom of the barrel to justify a crude insult from a vulgar clown who was deeper into political and banking circles and INFLUENCED them.
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Keep ing that view. The Left is loving it.

@geronl

Trump is much closer to the leftists so they should be happy.
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LOL you put up a flawed candidate and it's my fault? 

Man that's desperation.

What's desperation is you running from your political responsibilities.

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Nonsense.  She was in no position to influence policy.  You guys are scraping the bottom of the barrel to justify a crude insult from a vulgar clown who was deeper into political and banking circles and INFLUENCED them.

He owns a building on Wall Street.  Doesnt get much more than that
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Nonsense.  She was in no position to influence policy.  You guys are scraping the bottom of the barrel to justify a crude insult from a vulgar clown who was deeper into political and banking circles and INFLUENCED them.

We're talking about Heidi...FOCUS. You don't get to be on the Council of Foreign Relations if you have no influence.
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So be it. My principles haven't changed. The Constitution hasn't changed. My God hasn't changed. Not one word of scripture has changed. And if you spend more money than you have that result hasn't changed.

All that has changed is the Republican Party's demonstrated approach to those principles. Ignore, Ignore, Ignore, and Deny.

Nothing there left to be loyal to, imho.

Quite well stated Joe.  The Republican Party has reduced itself merely to an opposing team wearing a different color jersey, but playing by all the same rules and with the same goals.  Its competition with the Democrats now means no more than Yankees versus Red Sox or Ohio State versus Michigan.  Those of us who still recognize principle behind politics are no longer welcome in the GOP, and take our leave of it with regret but without hesitation.
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You got your one man parade of conservatism. Many don't buy it and don't need the condescending "Your prince";

Sorry, plenty of conservatives have lined up behind Trump; save the one-man parade, Ted and Mark Levin are the only conservatives and constitutionalists.  It's too bad, that again, we see, the debate can only be carried on this manner.


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"Nonsense.  She was in no position to influence policy.  You guys are scraping the bottom of the barrel to justify a crude insult from a vulgar clown who was deeper into political and banking circles and INFLUENCED them."

First one doesn't know what she did, then, it becomes an accusation on others.

Sorry, if she didn't have the best intentions for America with this North American community nonsense, it's fair game.

Ted Cruz called the CFR a brood of vipers; so, if Heidi was in CFR; guess what?