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Erdogan is pro Shari'a Law...pro ISIS and pro Islamic terrorism.

And Trump just endorsed all of that by endorsing Erdogan. 

Which means that now all the Trumpkins are backing a guy who eodorses the leader of a state that sponsors radical Islam and everything else that come with that.

They must be so proud of themselves.

Worth repeating..

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One can say Cruz doesn't even compare to Mike Pence per an accomplished career and following the constitution at that.

And one would be dishonest if he did.

Pence, although an acceptable conservative, IS part of the Political Establishment.

Cruz has been fighting, all his adult life, first and foremost as a Conservative.  Texas AG and Congressman; clerked under Scalia in the Supreme Court.  Hated and reviled by RINOs.

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did you miss the part about Trump winning? 

whether or not we agree with his morals?  when we are faced with a dem'RAT who called off a rescue team and let Americans die?  when a dem'RAT president will be flying refugees by the thousands and settling them in OUR small midwest towns since the cities are already ruined by home-grown blm terrorists?

you're right - my priorities are just so screwed up that I would place the safety of my children ahead of the hope that sometime in the not too distant future we might MIGHT get the perfect candidate.  I give - you're right - I'll just stay home and not vote at all.  You convinced me.  Thanks.
You're welcome. I figure the only reason Trump doesn't have a record of the sins Hillary does is no one had been keeping count: after all he hasn't had the opportunity to vote for or against something, call off a rescue team, or veto or sign a bill.
Hillary wasn't the one who could issue the Cross Border Authority for the rescue mission. That belongs to Obama, not that I am excusing what was likely an orchestrated 'snatch and grab' gone sour, so they could save face exchanging leading terrorists for the Ambassador and surviving staff. Two very brave Americans broke ranks and defended that annex giving others time and the opportunity to escape, and the people who set up the trade deal didn't come to their aid. Thinking they'd been betrayed, the terrorists killed them all.
Trump may get that opportunity to screw the pooch, and then we'll see how he does. Given the time he's spent backing water on his earlier positions just in the primaries, I don't really have any faith he'll do what's right.
I'm gong to vote, Constitution party at the top (Darrell Castle), and my conscience all the way down the ticket.
Just a thought. Not one person in the White Hut is going to make your children any safer on a day to day basis. That's your job.
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ABSOLUTELY WRONG!  You really should read, watch, or listen to the speech.

From the speech:

Of course, Obama and Clinton will tell you that they also care about our children’s future. And I want to believe them. But there is a profound difference in our two parties’ visions for the future.

Theirs is the party that thinks ISIS is a “JV team,” that responds to the death of Americans at Benghazi by asking, “What difference does it make?” That thinks it’s possible to make a deal with Iran, which celebrates as holidays “Death to America Day” and “Death to Israel Day.”

My friends, this is madness.

President Obama is a man who does everything backwards – he wants to close Guantanamo Bay and open up our borders, he exports jobs and imports terrorists.

Enough is enough.

There is a better vision for our future: A return to freedom.

On education, your freedom to choose your child’s education, even if you aren’t as rich as Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.

On healthcare, your freedom to choose your own doctor, without Obamacare.

On taxes, your freedom to provide for your family without the IRS beating down your door.

The Internet? Keep it free from taxes, free from regulation. And don’t give it away to Russia and China.

Freedom means free speech, not politically correct safe spaces.

Freedom means religious freedom, whether you are Christian or Jew, Muslim or atheist. Gay or straight, the Bill of Rights protects the rights of all of us to live according to our conscience.

Freedom means the right to keep and bear arms, and protect your family.

Freedom means Supreme Court Justices who don’t dictate policy, but instead follow the Constitution.

And freedom means recognizing that our Constitution allows states to choose policies that reflect local values. Colorado may decide something different than Texas. New York different than Iowa. Diversity. That’s the way it’s supposed to be. If not, what’s the point of having states to begin with?

Hillary Clinton believes government should make virtually every choice in your life. Education, healthcare, marriage, speech – all dictated out of Washington.

Thank you for that. I missed that line.

Hillary Clinton believes government should make virtually every choice in your life. Education, healthcare, marriage, speech – all dictated out of Washington.

The rest of it is pretty well known boilerplate indictment of the entire Liberal movement in general, but not really anything about Trump being on the opposite side of all these things, or Trump being the one to lead the change. More like, here is a list of bad things on the other side. You figure out what you want to do about it.
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You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists.

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Its dishonest to make the issue endorsement when the issue, even in the pledge was about SUPPORT. If you have to lie to make you point you have no point.
So, essentially, you are saying the statement:
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If you love our country, and love our children as much as you do, stand, and speak, and vote your conscience, vote for candidates up and down the ticket who you trust to defend our freedom, and to be faithful to the constitution.
excludes Trump? Otherwise, that would be support, now wouldn't it?
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So, essentially, you are saying the statement:excludes Trump? Otherwise, that would be support, now wouldn't it?

Easy on Mechanicos....  he's had a tough day :rolling:
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Easy on Mechanicos....  he's had a tough day :rolling:

This sure is a long thread for someone who is on everyone's ignore list.

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oldmonster - thanks but the real exhibition of your classy opinion was shown last night on the floor of the convention.  Yep, donnie is a "real" uniter, isn't he. But did you forget, he said he can win without conservatives?

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This sure is a long thread for someone who is on everyone's ignore list.

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Not mine.  I like to laugh.
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Thank you for that. I missed that line.

Hillary Clinton believes government should make virtually every choice in your life. Education, healthcare, marriage, speech – all dictated out of Washington.

The rest of it is pretty well known boilerplate indictment of the entire Liberal movement in general, but not really anything about Trump being on the opposite side of all these things, or Trump being the one to lead the change. More like, here is a list of bad things on the other side. You figure out what you want to do about it.

It seems to me that it's up to Trump to demonstrate that he is the opposite of those things.  If it's not obvious that he is, then Trump's campaign isn't doing its job.
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It seems to me that it's up to Trump to demonstrate that he is the opposite of those things.  If it's not obvious that he is, then Trump's campaign isn't doing its job.

Good to know you Victor. It would seem that we may be fellow travelers. It is nice and comfortable to be level headed in the middle of all this chaos. I am enjoying it anyway. I will vote for Trump, but I would have voted Cruz had he won.

I'm easy-going about the whole thing. It is an experience watching so many heads explode around me. It reminds me of Kipling.

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;

If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;

If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;

If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;

If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son!
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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This sure is a long thread for someone who is on everyone's ignore list.

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I am emotionally unable to put anyone on ignore.  I tried it once, and I always had to take a look anyway.  I got LESS peace because of it.

I give Mechanicos his props, anyway.  He hasn't caused me any headaches.  I hope I haven't caused him any. 
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Easy on Mechanicos....  he's had a tough day :rolling:
I had a great day. By now you should know what you think harms Trump never does. All I need to do is look at Cruz's Facebook and Twitter and see you are the outliers - and it makes me smile. His explanation was a talking point. Normal people know Cruz via his PAC fired off the wife war to head off the NE article. And that PAC got paid well for it by Cruz, half a mill.

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That ongoing back and forth sniping is said to have been a planned event by the Cruz campaign to try and intermingle the Cruz-Trump dispute with the pending National Enquirer story in an effort to confuse voters as to what was really going on. Initially it appears to have worked as the Mainstream Media has focused almost entirely on the Trump-Cruz back and forth involving the defense of their respective wives, and almost no attention by this same Mainstream Media has been devoted to the Cruz sex scandal story.

Adding yet another layer of intrigue to the Enquirer edition, and seemingly very much linked to the Melania Trump ad, is the involvement of former Carly Fiorina campaign staffer, Liz Mair. Just days prior to Mair’s newly-formed Make America Awesome anti-Trump PAC initiated the now-infamous Melania Trump modeling pic political ad, came the endorsement of Ted Cruz by Mair’s former boss, Carly Fiorina. This in turn reminded some in the media to recall a very odd $500,000 transaction that took place between a Ted Cruz Super PAC and Carly Fiorina Super PAC back in July when both were still (apparently) competing against one another for the GOP nomination. The Washington Post detailed that half a million dollar donation with the following headline:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/07/31/why-did-a-ted-cruz-super-pac-donate-to-carly-fiorina/?postshare=9641458877974512&tid=ss_tw-bottom

http://dcwhispers.com/report-cruz-campaign-prepared-sex-scandal-story-several-weeks/#AJoswBgC2KtGEf4S.99

So to recap:
-- Cruz submitted a speech that had support (not endorsement) at the end for the Trump-Pence ticket.
-- Cruz went off script.
-- Trump and RNC apparently did not trust Cruz to be honest and had a contingency plan in place to nullify his sabotage.
-- Cruz was booed by the convention goers including his own Texas delegates.
-- People who knew what Cruz was supposed to say per his word that were on his side were so angry at least one tried to attack him.
-- This morning hes out doing damage control playing the poor little me card, but its not working as seen from social media to him.


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I am emotionally unable to put anyone on ignore.  I tried it once, and I always had to take a look anyway.  I got LESS peace because of it.

I give Mechanicos his props, anyway.  He hasn't caused me any headaches.  I hope I haven't caused him any.

My ignore list is empty too.  I use the ignore button God built into my brain.
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I had a great day. By now you should know what you think harms Trump never does. All I need to do is look at Cruz's Facebook and Twitter and see you are the outliers - and it makes me smile. His explanation was a talking point. Normal people know Cruz via his PAC fired off the wife war to head off the NE article. And that PAC got paid well for it by Cruz, half a mill.

http://dcwhispers.com/report-cruz-campaign-prepared-sex-scandal-story-several-weeks/#AJoswBgC2KtGEf4S.99

So to recap:
-- Cruz submitted a speech that had support (not endorsement) at the end for the Trump-Pence ticket.
-- Cruz went off script.
-- Trump and RNC apparently did not trust Cruz to be honest and had a contingency plan in place to nullify his sabotage.
-- Cruz was booed by the convention goers including his own Texas delegates.
-- People who knew what Cruz was supposed to say per his word that were on his side were so angry at least one tried to attack him.
-- This morning hes out doing damage control playing the poor little me card, but its not working as seen from social media to him.

Suckers.

Like the rest of the Trump universe, you've spent the whole day ranting about Cruz, again.

The opponent here is Hillary Clinton, and she gets one day closer to winning without any negative attention.

Suckers.
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I had a great day. By now you should know what you think harms Trump never does. All I need to do is look at Cruz's Facebook and Twitter and see you are the outliers - and it makes me smile. His explanation was a talking point. Normal people know Cruz via his PAC fired off the wife war to head off the NE article. And that PAC got paid well for it by Cruz, half a mill.

http://dcwhispers.com/report-cruz-campaign-prepared-sex-scandal-story-several-weeks/#AJoswBgC2KtGEf4S.99

So to recap:
-- Cruz submitted a speech that had support (not endorsement) at the end for the Trump-Pence ticket.
-- Cruz went off script.
-- Trump and RNC apparently did not trust Cruz to be honest and had a contingency plan in place to nullify his sabotage.
-- Cruz was booed by the convention goers including his own Texas delegates.
-- People who knew what Cruz was supposed to say per his word that were on his side were so angry at least one tried to attack him.
-- This morning hes out doing damage control playing the poor little me card, but its not working as seen from social media to him.
So, the orchestrated booing was in response to him going off script. Were there prompters in the front row?

I'll take a man who can think for himself over an automaton any day, thanks. Cruz will come out of this just fine, and Trump will have to stand or fail on his own merits.

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Wow, Mechanicos.  Your boy Trump officially gets the nomination, yet you are still here telling lies about Cruz.
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Wow, Mechanicos.  Your boy Trump officially gets the nomination, yet you are still here telling lies about Cruz.
It is beginning to seem like an unhealthy fixation.
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It is beginning to seem like an unhealthy fixation.

Still wondering what Mechanicos Freeper name is.
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I've watching these prez campaigns for over fify years. I've never, ever seen a candidate from either major party call the names, the slander, the insults Trump has called the other Republican candidates. I was hoping Cruz had the character not to cave, and he didn't disappoint me.

Exactly.. and if Cruz' endorsement of the GOP "up and down the ticket" isn't enough for the Trump worshippers, screw 'em.  Cruz is wise not to give a full endorsement to a candidate that has no possibility of winning.
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Still wondering what Mechanicos Freeper name is.

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but it's Mechanicos at TOS too.


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Exactly.. and if Cruz' endorsement of the GOP "up and down the ticket" isn't enough for the Trump worshippers, screw 'em.  Cruz is wise not to give a full endorsement to a ticket that has no possibility of winning.

Proud of Cruz.  Instead of kissing the ring.......  He pissed on it.
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Still wondering what Mechanicos Freeper name is.
Its the same as here.
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Still wondering what Mechanicos Freeper name is.

It's "Mechanicos" over there, too.

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Erdogan is pro Shari'a Law...pro ISIS and pro Islamic terrorism.

And Trump just endorsed all of that by endorsing Erdogan. 
So DT, Obama and HRC essentially stand on the same side of that issue. Quelle surprise.