Palin Rips Never Trump Republicans: You Are Either With Us or Against Us"

[Smokin Joe]

What a way to insult the largest group of Republican voters ever in the party history. Guess this is an example of those superior principles we keep getting told about...

Unemployed/underemployed people tend to have lower incomes. They are also resentful of the fact that they are not making what they did beforehand, which is a ripe group for supporting Trump. Easy to blame the illegals, to want the plant to open up again (the one the EPA shut down and was moved to some other country). Insult? No, likely a fact. I feel for them, in that my income went from six figures to zero with the crash in oil prices. That doesn't make me angry, though, so there is nothing there for Trump to exploit.

[Cyber Liberty]

At one time, Sarah had quite a following of her own. It was her followers who kept McCain from being shot down in flames, by attracting them to vote for her being only a heartbeat away from the Oval Office. That got my vote that year.

But after her supporting RINOs (including McCain for Senate), the shine wore off that penny, and the realization that she might be 'in it' for Sarah more than any set of strong principles reared its ugly head. When that happened, I (and I would think others) took a more critical peek at things and found out our first impressions just might not have been accurate, or that her positions had changed (and boy, have they!)

Those TEA party, Libertarian Leaning, and Constitutional Conservatives once all aboard with Sarah, aren't buying the Trump tripe, and I think the reason Sarah was called on board (not sure if a true believer or made a deal) was to rope in the Sarah aficionados from back when.

Only times have changed. For those of us who had moved on and were not lining up to kiss the ring of the Orange Combover, we were not going to change our minds because someone else said so. By the time she got on board, the abuse from some vocal and vicious Trump supporters was already enough that 'making nice' was going to be a slow process of forgiveness, or just not going to happen.

She was too little, too late. Maybe she is realizing her own influence has been squandered by supporting RINOs and now Trump, and that will, in all likelihood spell the end of her political influence. That'd be cause enough for impending panic.

For me, I see a bad call, doubled down on (repeatedly), the unfortunate mark of a Liberal. It's sad to see 'em go, but I won't follow.

If Trump wins, she'll have relevance. 

[txradioguy]

A discussion of that, veers off into common sense, math and logic, which do not apply with the #nevertrumps.

They are simply angry, sore losers, with no viable answers whatsoever. Unless you call Darrel Castle a "viable" answer.

[kevindavis007]

Unemployed/underemployed people tend to have lower incomes. They are also resentful of the fact that they are not making what they did beforehand, which is a ripe group for supporting Trump. Easy to blame the illegals, to want the plant to open up again (the one the EPA shut down and was moved to some other country). Insult? No, likely a fact. I feel for them, in that my income went from six figures to zero with the crash in oil prices. That doesn't make me angry, though, so there is nothing there for Trump to exploit.

I'm in IT and a developer.. What I'm trying to do is change my field either as a manager or a project manager.  I know things are changing, but guess what I'm not waiting for Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton to make my life better.. I make my life better..

[Smokin Joe]

Trump is controlling the Narrative for this election. And its a winning Strategy.

FOOL!

The media control the narrative, always.

Trump has helped them sell a lot of soap, but he doesn't control them.

Besides, the Democrat primaries were booooring, by comparison, with just a criminal and a Socialist running against each other. Cheap 'reality' teevee for the networks.

[Smokin Joe]

Personally I think the GOP just wants what the democrats have which is a mindless unquestioning voter base and Trump voters certainly fit the bill. He can get caught or admit lying to his voters repeatedly but they ignore it and still cling to the "Lyin Ted" mantra like morons.

The GOP didn't want a POTUS (candidate) who would slap them upside the head with the Constitution, and who knows it, and isn't afraid to stand his ground. They got a narcissist megalomaniac instead, thinking they could 'deal' with him.

[Smokin Joe]

If Trump wins, she'll have relevance.

Not with the people who are Constitutional Conservatives, not that I am worried. I seriously doubt Trump will win the General, and polling data indicate he is the least likely to succeed against Hillary.

[Smokin Joe]

I'm in IT and a developer.. What I'm trying to do is change my field either as a manager or a project manager.  I know things are changing, but guess what I'm not waiting for Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton to make my life better.. I make my life better..

Exactly. My work was done on wellsite, while drilling. Between technological changes and the crash in oil prices, roughly 90% of the rigs that were drilling here are not now. So, 90% of those 'job openings' are gone. I'm looking to shift into production work, but it is a tough jump to make after 55.

[RetBobbyMI]

Plain should take a lesson from Hillary. Just bark like a dog, claim you did nothing wrong, just be sloppy, clean your server with a cloth, and maybe just maybe you might get elected to something.

[truth_seeker]

I'm in IT and a developer.. What I'm trying to do is change my field either as a manager or a project manager.  I know things are changing, but guess what I'm not waiting for Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton to make my life better.. I make my life better..

An oil field worker, a pipeline worker, a coal field worker might have a different situation, than you have.

I heard very recently that accounting work, is being outsourced to India. We all know of many other fields of endeavor that have been impacted.

[DB]

A discussion of that, veers off into common sense, math and logic, which do not apply with the #nevertrumps.

They are simply angry, sore losers, with no viable answers whatsoever. Unless you call Darrel Castle a "viable" answer.

Funny how you think it is "logical" that you can vote for a corrupt New York liberal and think they'll clean up Washington DC's corruption.

There's a word for that and it isn't "logical".

[kevindavis007]

An oil field worker, a pipeline worker, a coal field worker might have a different situation, than you have.

I heard very recently that accounting work, is being outsourced to India. We all know of many other fields of endeavor that have been impacted.

Doesn't hurt to keep on learning a new trade..

[Cripplecreek]

Funny how you think it is "logical" that you can vote for a corrupt New York liberal and think they'll clean up Washington DC's corruption.

There's a word for that and it isn't "logical".

I've been informed that only a corrupt man can clean up corruption. If that were true, DC would have cleaned itself up a long time ago.

[musiclady]

A discussion of that, veers off into common sense, math and logic, which do not apply with the #nevertrumps.

They are simply angry, sore losers, with no viable answers whatsoever. Unless you call Darrel Castle a "viable" answer.

What a bunch of hooey.

Nominating a corrupt liberal insider as the Republican nominee is as illogical as any event in history, and bears absolutely NO relationship to "common sense."

And it is the Trump lovers who are filled with anger and are vomiting emotionally day in and day out.

If you take your words and turn them completely inside out, there is truth.

But as they stand, there is not a modicum of truth in a single thing you've said.

Start seeking again t_s................. you've really lost your way, and truth eludes you.

[Sighlass]

From another source...

She ended her tirade at anti-Trump Republicans, saying they are "suffering chappedass because their power and purse are threatened by the grassroots movement to destroy their failed politics-as-usual. Hillary thanks you. She knows she can't win without you."

Odd I always thought me and my ilk were the true grassroot Christian conservatives and we are solidly #NeverTrump. You know those folks that actually know somewhat of what in between the covers of that Bible you wave around.

Sorry Palin, you pick the wrong men more times than you get it right. McCain now Trump. I didn't vote McCain and I certainly will never vote Trump.

[Mechanicos]

Unemployed/underemployed people tend to have lower incomes. They are also resentful of the fact that they are not making what they did beforehand, which is a ripe group for supporting Trump. Easy to blame the illegals, to want the plant to open up again (the one the EPA shut down and was moved to some other country). Insult? No, likely a fact. I feel for them, in that my income went from six figures to zero with the crash in oil prices. That doesn't make me angry, though, so there is nothing there for Trump to exploit.

I prove your stereotype wrong.   Don't know which left wing site you got it from but it ignores Trump won every demographic in the Primary including college educated and well off.

http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/nh/Rep

[Smokin Joe]

I prove your stereotype wrong.   Don't know which left wing site you got it from but it ignores Trump won every demographic in the Primary including college educated and well off.

http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/nh/Rep

At risk of having you dig up another worthless poll, if you can, please show me where trump won over 50% or more of the voters any of those categories.

[Jazzhead]

A discussion of that, veers off into common sense, math and logic, which do not apply with the #nevertrumps.

They are simply angry, sore losers, with no viable answers whatsoever. Unless you call Darrel Castle a "viable" answer.

We're not sore losers,  TS,  we're opposing Trump out of principle,  in my case to turn back the alt-right and reclaim the GOP for responsible conservatism.   Trump needs to be isolated and repudiated at every turn.   George Will is right - the goal this year is to save the Congress and keep clean hands.  There is a political future beyond 2016,  and it won't include Donald Trump.   

[Cripplecreek]

Just so we're clear.

I'm against them.

[musiclady]

We're not sore losers,  TS,  we're opposing Trump out of principle,  in my case to turn back the alt-right and reclaim the GOP for responsible conservatism.   Trump needs to be isolated and repudiated at every turn.   George Will is right - the goal this year is to save the Congress and keep clean hands.  There is a political future beyond 2016,  and it won't include Donald Trump.   

The only avenue left to Trump supporters who are devoid of logic and truth, as well as principles which don't collapse due to the wind of a demagogue, is to cast aspersions on those who continue to maintain our convictions.

t_s is left with calling us "sore losers" because he has no logic or truth from which to defend his support of Donald Trump.

When you can't carry on a civil conversation, you start throwing spit balls.

That's all the "sore losers' accusation is....................... a spitball.

[geronl]

I would oppose Trump even if Ted Cruz endorsed him.

[Cripplecreek]

I would oppose Trump even if Ted Cruz endorsed him.

Exactly.


Trumpers are a hive mind so they assume everyone else is too.

[musiclady]

I would oppose Trump even if Ted Cruz endorsed him.

That is an excellent point.......... and one that I believe every Cruz supporter would agree with.

The reason we supported Cruz was because of his Constitutional integrity.  If he endorsed Trump, it would diminish Cruz, and not raise Trump up.

I'm beginning to see how devoid of principle many so-called Conservatives truly are.

[Mechanicos]

At risk of having you dig up another worthless poll, if you can, please show me where trump won over 50% or more of the voters any of those categories.

Trump was either first choice or second choice for the vast majority of Voters, so stop the lie he was rejected by most voters.

[Smokin Joe]

I prove your stereotype wrong.   Don't know which left wing site you got it from but it ignores Trump won every demographic in the Primary including college educated and well off.

http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/nh/Rep

High school or less
47%
Some college
39%
College graduate
33%
Postgraduate
25%

His best performing group was "high school or less", the guys with the seven figure salaries, golden parachutes, and corner offices, right? Not so much.

And that is an exit poll snapshot of New Hampshire in February.

Now, going by the simple observation that most Trump supporters seem to be angry people, and most angry people have some reason to be that way, and most people are most resentful when they don't feel they are getting paid what they are worth, that leads back to the un/underemployed, a classic group of people who resent having been laid off and having to seek work below their skill level--especially resentful if they were replaced by some illegal alien or the plant was moved offshore because the company could make more money that way. One thing is certain, being un or under employed just doesn't pay as well.

But, dagnabit, that is logical, and I forgot. Some folks aren't interested in logic, just ballyhoo when they can cherry pick it, and that taken with a macro lens.