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Clinton failed to hand over key email to State Department
« on: June 24, 2016, 12:25:58 am »
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Jun 23, 6:10 PM EDT

Clinton failed to hand over key email to State Department

By MICHAEL BIESECKER
Associated Press

 WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Secretary Hillary Clinton failed to turn over a copy of a key message involving problems caused by her use of a private homebrew email server, the State Department confirmed Thursday. The disclosure makes it unclear what other work-related emails may have been deleted by the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.

The email was included within messages exchanged Nov. 13, 2010, between Clinton and one of her closest aides, Deputy Chief of Staff Huma Abedin. At the time, emails sent from Clinton's BlackBerry device and routed through her private clintonemail.com server in the basement of her New York home were being blocked by the State Department's spam filter. A suggested remedy was for Clinton to obtain a state.gov email account.

"Let's get separate address or device but I don't want any risk of the personal being accessible," Clinton responded to Abedin.

Clinton never used a government account that was set up for her, instead continuing to rely on her private server until leaving office.

The email was not among the tens of thousands of emails Clinton turned over to the agency in response to public records lawsuits seeking copies of her official correspondence. Abedin, who also used a private account on Clinton's server, provided a copy from her own inbox after the State Department asked her to return any work-related emails. That copy of the email was publicly cited last month in a blistering audit by the State Department's inspector general that concluded Clinton and her team ignored clear internal guidance that her email setup violated federal standards and could have left sensitive material vulnerable to hackers.

"While this exchange was not part of the approximately 55,000 pages provided to the State Department by former Secretary Clinton, the exchange was included within the set of documents Ms. Abedin provided the department in response to our March 2015 request," State Department spokesman John Kirby told The Associated Press on Thursday.

Clinton campaign spokesman Brian Fallon said she provided "all potentially work-related emails" that were still in her possession when she received the 2014 request from the State Department.

"Secretary Clinton had some emails with Huma that Huma did not have, and Huma had some emails with Secretary Clinton that Secretary Clinton did not have," Fallon said.

Fallon declined to say whether Clinton deleted any work-related emails before they were reviewed by her legal team. Clinton's lead lawyer, David Kendall, did not respond to a request for comment Thursday.

The November 2010 email was among documents released under court order Wednesday to the conservative legal advocacy group Judicial Watch, which has sued the State Department over access to public records related to the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee's service as the nation's top diplomat between 2009 and 2013. The case is one of about three dozen lawsuits over access to records related to Clinton, including one filed by the AP.

Before turning over her emails to the department for review and potential public release, Clinton and her lawyers withheld thousands of additional emails she said were clearly personal, such as those involving what she described as "planning Chelsea's wedding or my mother's funeral arrangements, condolence notes to friends as well as yoga routines, family vacations."

Clinton has never outlined in detail what criteria she and her lawyers used to determine which emails to release and which to delete, but her 2010 email with Abedin appears clearly work-related under the State Department's own criteria for agency records under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act.

Dozens of the emails sent or received by Clinton through her private server were later determined to contain classified material. The FBI has been investigating for months whether Clinton's use of the private email server imperiled government secrets. Agents recently interviewed several of Clinton's top aides, including Abedin.

As part of the probe, Clinton turned over the hard drive from her email server to the FBI. It had been wiped clean, and Clinton has said she did not keep copies of the emails she choose to withhold.

On Wednesday, lawyers from Judicial Watch, a conservative legal organization, questioned under oath Bryan Pagliano, the computer technician who set up Clinton's private server. A transcript released Thursday shows Pagliano repeatedly responded to detailed questions by invoking his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination, as he did last year before a congressional committee.

Dozens of questions Pagiliano declined to answer included who paid for the system, whether there was technical help to support its users and who else at the State Department used email accounts on it. Pagliano also would not answer whether he discussed setting up a home server with Clinton prior to her tenure as secretary of state, according to the transcript.

Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton said the November 2010 email cited in the inspector general audit was one of several work-related emails that his group identified that Clinton sent or received but later failed to turn over the State Department.

"Contrary to her statement under oath suggesting otherwise, Mrs. Clinton did not return all her government emails to the State Department," Fitton said. "Our goal is to find out what other emails Mrs. Clinton and the State Department are hiding."

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Re: Clinton failed to hand over key email to State Department
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2016, 12:45:54 am »
It is stories like this that continue to dribble out that reinforce my belief that the FBI realized very early on that they had an incredibly serious set of multiple criminal violations of the Espionage Act, and convened a secret Grand Jury to hear evidence and hand down sealed indictments some time ago.  The FBI is not stupid.  The FBI is very good at investigating complex criminal conspiracies like this, and it was likely clear to them what they were potentially dealing with from the very beginning.

Hilary Clinton has done nothing but lie, obfuscate and pretend to be cooperative while her many Democrat operatives and friends, in and out of the Government, have done their best to try and cover for her.  Every single thing she said in her initial news conference about this over a year ago has proven to be outright lies. 

Watergate showed how a coverup can be worse than the crime.  This scandal has the potential to show that those who have tried to cover up have been aiding and abetting multiple Federal crimes involving the highest levels of National Security and espionage of the most amateur variety. 

We shall see, and I allow the possibility that I am completely wrong, in which case we are all completely screwed.  But if I am right, the entire Democrat Party could be about to come crashing down with the Hildebeest.

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Re: Clinton failed to hand over key email to State Department
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2016, 11:30:55 am »
I allow the possibility that I am completely wrong, in which case we are all completely screwed.  But if I am right, the entire Democrat Party could be about to come crashing down with the Hildebeest.


I suspect that this is why this is taking so long...the FBI wants to be careful. The consequences of this investigation, and whether or not she is indicted, are much bigger than Watergate.

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Re: Clinton failed to hand over key email to State Department
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2016, 11:34:55 am »
Clinton will not be indicted. The political stakes are too high, Justice is controlled by a DNC political appointee, and if nothing else Obama will issue a preemptive pardon a la Ford, for the good of the nation and to avoid a constitutional crisis. 

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Re: Clinton failed to hand over key email to State Department
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2016, 11:59:37 am »
Clinton will not be indicted. The political stakes are too high, Justice is controlled by a DNC political appointee, and if nothing else Obama will issue a preemptive pardon a la Ford, for the good of the nation and to avoid a constitutional crisis.

Nixon: "I am not a crook."

HRC: "OK, so I'm a crook, but it never came to trial."
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Re: Clinton failed to hand over key email to State Department
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2016, 12:04:30 pm »
Nixon: "I am not a crook."

HRC: "OK, so I'm a crook, but it never came to trial."

She won't do that; at most she'll take the Nixon line.  Also, any Obama pardon will be much more subtle than Fords approach was, mainly because the context is different.  It will be something broad and diffuse, will never mention her or her top aides, but will as a practical matter make any indictment impossible. 

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Re: Clinton failed to hand over key email to State Department
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2016, 02:07:29 pm »
She won't do that; at most she'll take the Nixon line.  Also, any Obama pardon will be much more subtle than Fords approach was, mainly because the context is different.  It will be something broad and diffuse, will never mention her or her top aides, but will as a practical matter make any indictment impossible.

Perhaps, with coffee, you'll get that I was joking....

And even so, she's still a crook. 

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Re: Clinton failed to hand over key email to State Department
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2016, 02:51:00 pm »
Next time I'm on military duty I'm going to tell everyone to email me at my personal email account which is on a server in my basement.  And to please send me classified with the headers removed so that they will not get flagged.  How long until I'm arrested?

This is what is total BS. And this is why people are voting for Trump (which I can't stand).  The politicians are so corrupt and they are now just giving us the middle finger as they tell us we have to follow their rules but they don't.

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Re: Clinton failed to hand over key email to State Department
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2016, 01:26:49 pm »
Next time I'm on military duty I'm going to tell everyone to email me at my personal email account which is on a server in my basement.  And to please send me classified with the headers removed so that they will not get flagged.  How long until I'm arrested?

This is what is total BS. And this is why people are voting for Trump (which I can't stand).  The politicians are so corrupt and they are now just giving us the middle finger as they tell us we have to follow their rules but they don't.

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