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[Bigun]

How would Cruz prevent it?

By doing EXACTLY what he has repeatedly stated he will do!

[Lando Lincoln]

This post and subsequent remarks really upset me - because they are so reflective of my own beliefs.  When DT announced his candidacy, I thought, "this ought to be interesting."  It has been a mystery-ride ever since.

[A-Lert]

By doing EXACTLY what he has repeatedly stated he will do!

Stating and doing aren't one and the same. What has Cruz been successful in doing while in the US Senate?

[Bigun]

Stating and doing aren't one and the same. What has Cruz been successful in doing while in the US Senate?

A hell of a lot!  We've been down this road before  so I'm not about to engage in a circular argument with you!

Donald TRump is not going to win the Republican Nomination and will NEVER ever be President of the United States! Get used to that FACT!

[A-Lert]

A hell of a lot!  We've been down this road before  so I'm not about to engage in a circular argument with you!

Donald TRump is not going to win the Republican Nomination and will NEVER ever be President of the United States! Get used to that FACT!

Ted Cruz isn't going to win the Republican nomination. He's not popular with his peers or the general public. Get used to the fact.

[NavyCanDo]

Stating and doing aren't one and the same. What has Cruz been successful in doing while in the US Senate?

Besides pissing "the establishment" off?    You learn allot about candidates from ballotpedia. He served on the Armed  Services Committee. Faught againts sancuary cities, a fight he is passionate about even now. Voted against John Brennan as National Security adviser. Voted againgst the Farm bill, and much much more. Also listed as "far right" on the economic and social issues scale.

[sinkspur]

And it’s also why #NeverTrump folks hold in such contempt most Trump voters – in particular those who occupy positions of public trust: it’s because, in the case of Trump, it’s really obvious.

This is the money quote. A demagogue has no power without a willing, gullible following.  For some reason, there seems to be a fear on the part of Republican politicians to condemn Trump in public, to scorn his ideas and, indeed, the man himself.  (One exception is Ben Sasse of Nebraska).  Why are they afraid? Because Trump is a vengeful, vindictive human being who has a practice of attempting to destroy anyone who stands in his way.  He has essentially cowed these people and has been cowing them for months. 

I have to laugh when I read comparisons to Mitt Romney.  For all his flaws, Romney is an honorable decent person.  Trump is not.

Unfortunately, those who are in his camp are now too fully invested to back away.  They would lose massive face if they turned against him now.  And, in fact, if you ask them, they rarely cite any of his policies for the reason to support him.  No, they follow him because he's supposedly this "tough guy" who will knock down anything in his way (including Constitutional protections). 

It's about him.  Well, it's about him with me too.  I can't vote for a vulgar, dishonest, dishonorable human being for President.  And I won't.

[A-Lert]

Besides pissing "the establishment" off?    You learn allot about candidates from ballotpedia. He served on the Armed  Services Committee. Faught againts sancuary cities, a fight he is passionate about even now. Voted against John Brennan as National Security adviser. Voted againgst the Farm bill, and much much more. Also listed as "far right" on the economic and social issues scale.

Voting against isn't the  same as accomplishing something. Trump has accomplished pissing off "the establishment" even more.

[massadvj]

Ted Cruz represents the best opportunity we have had to install a genuine originalist into the presidency since Reagan, and although i recognize the odds are long, I will stay loyal to his cause until the bitter end.  It is a crying shame that so many otherwise thoughtful, intelligent conservatives -- people I respect deeply -- have decided to throw this intelligent, decent and honorable man overboard.  Nonetheless, even if he fails this year, Cruz is laying the foundation for four years from now, just as Reagan did in 1976.

The country just has not quite sunk deep enough into the socialist abyss.  But four years of Hillary Clinton should be enough for Cruz to resurrect himself.  He has the one thing going for him that no other candidate in the race has, and that is the truth.  Long after the short-term effects of the Trump Kool-Aid have worn off, and Trump goes the way of Ross Perot, the fundamental truth that formed the basis of the thinking of Locke and Jefferson and Coolidge will still be there. 

Because people will be yearning to be free, not governed by a thug.

[Bigun]

Ted Cruz represents the best opportunity we have had to install a genuine originalist into the presidency since Reagan, and although i recognize the odds are long, I will stay loyal to his cause until the bitter end.  It is a crying shame that so many otherwise thoughtful, intelligent conservatives -- people I respect deeply -- have decided to throw this intelligent, decent and honorable man overboard.  Nonetheless, even if he fails this year, Cruz is laying the foundation for four years from now, just as Reagan did in 1976.

The country just has not quite sunk deep enough into the socialist abyss.  But four years of Hillary Clinton should be enough for Cruz to resurrect himself.  He has the one thing going for him that no other candidate in the race has, and that is the truth.  Long after the short-term effects of the Trump Kool-Aid have worn off, and Trump goes the way of Ross Perot, the fundamental truth that formed the basis of the thinking of Locke and Jefferson and Coolidge will still be there. 

Because people will be yearning to be free, not governed by a thug.

The country won't survive 4 years of Clintoon following 8 years of Obama! SCOTUS will be screwed for generation at best!

[NavyCanDo]

Voting against isn't the  same as accomplishing something. Trump has accomplished pissing off "the establishment" even more.

   So much so, that the grand poobah of "the establishment" John Boehner is endorsing him. You do watch the news don't you.

[don-o]

Stating and doing aren't one and the same. What has Cruz been successful in doing while in the US Senate?

We have had more than enough "doing" in Babylon by the Potomac. What is needed is a long season of UNdoing.

[massadvj]

The country won't survive 4 years of Clintoon following 8 years of Obama! SCOTUS will be screwed for generation at best!

Have faith, my friend.  The country survived 14 years of FDR.  We may not be around the day when freedom sprouts anew from the ash heap, but it will happen for the simple reason that yearning to be free is the bedrock of humanity.   

[Bigun]

We have had more than enough "doing" in Babylon by the Potomac. What is needed is a long season of UNdoing.

   and 

[massadvj]

We have had more than enough "doing" in Babylon by the Potomac. What is needed is a long season of UNdoing.

 

Exactly right.  We'll know we have finally come around to some common sense when our legislators start judging themselves on how many laws they managed to repeal, as opposed to how many they enacted.

[Lando Lincoln]

Exactly right.  We'll know we have finally come around to some common sense when our legislators start judging themselves on how many laws they managed to repeal, as opposed to how many they enacted.

A campaign based on that principle alone would be a winner, and it would be contagious. 

[Bigun]

A campaign based on that principle alone would be a winner, and it would be contagious.

I tend to agree with you! 

[don-o]

Exactly right.  We'll know we have finally come around to some common sense when our legislators start judging themselves on how many laws they managed to repeal, as opposed to how many they enacted.

Here's the don-o BIG CEEGAR award.

 

[massadvj]

Here's the don-o BIG CEEGAR award.

 

I think I know her.  I saw her profile on Our Time.

[A-Lert]

  So much so, that the grand poobah of "the establishment" John Boehner is endorsing him. You do watch the news don't you.

No, I don't. I always have to check for veracity anyhow so I just read the internet news. Is there a particular "news" channel or source that you believe is credible or better than the rest?

[A-Lert]

We have had more than enough "doing" in Babylon by the Potomac. What is needed is a long season of UNdoing.

Undoing will take much more doing.

[OldSaltUSN]

The age when ships were made of wood and men were made of iron has long past.  Todays young'ns are precious little snowflakes who have no moral compass except what they learn watching the Kardashians and celebrity apprentice.  They are looking for Bernie and the Donald to "fix things" when only freedom, hard work, and faith in God and our Constitution will restore America.

Understand your concern.

A lot of "my sailors" were guys who wore greens/cammies and had names like Kyle, Luttrell, Helvenston, Monsoor, Murphy, O'Neill, and lots and lots of guys still serving in the blue and gold on gray ships.   

Yeah, there are LOTS MORE "perfumed princes" in the active Navy under Obama, but that shiite started back when I was still an active reservist under Clinton.  One of the "Under Secretary of the Navy" guys came in to a new C.O.'s brief in Washington, DC, supposedly a former SEAL (which I and others doubted, as he was as effeminate an officer as I can ever recall), and started telling us about our new "PC" Navy world.   It was so quiet that you could have heard a pin drop.  I believe we were all thinking the same thing, e.g. "What the h*ll does any of this have to do with war fighting?!".

It'll be tough to turn back the clock, but the right CINC with support of Congress, could do it within four years.   Reagan did it, on my (first) watch.

Still serving, US Navy (and the US Constitution) ... from a "rear area".   

[OldSaltUSN]

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,204330.msg857508/topicseen.html#msg857508

Buchanan and Ron Paul isolationism.   Et tu, Donald?    

Someone else will always pay in blood for the wars isolationists won't fight, and usually in buckets and tanker's sized amounts.
Peace through strength keeps America free and kills fewer of our kids.

[OldSaltUSN]

It's been beaten to death already. It is apparent no amount of factual refutation will have an effect on anti-Trumps and Cruzandwiches.

"factual refutation" hasn't been a strength of many Trump supporters I've run into;  Agitprop and ad hominem  have been about par for the course.  However, you are still posting your articles and remarks, so I guess that there's still hope for dialogue.

I suspect we'll have some fun here, you and me.  If fun hasn't been "beaten to death already".

[OldSaltUSN]

Stating and doing aren't one and the same. What has Cruz been successful in doing while in the US Senate?

Yes, Bigun, why don't you prove a negative.  Rather than A-lert itemizing and disputing things he believes Cruz lies about, the claims of what he will do in office, and which have been widely publicized in his speeches, the media, and his web site, A-Lert goes the D.U. troll rout, and asks you to spend YOUR time looking up all that information already available to him and print "how Cruz will save the Republic" (inference).   Hint:  You can't prove a negative.

Progressives love trolling like this.  They can ask you to prove negatives, have you spinning in circles, while all they do is ask "factual based questions".   (Not claiming that A-lert is a progressive; only that he follows the Alinsky playbook.)

He knows why we don't trust Trump, won't support him, and never will.  He knows why we feel Cruz is more likely to keep his word, and carry through on his conservative agenda.    He doesn't care.  It's just progressive style agitprop.

Here's a few questions for the Trump supporter: 

Premise:  The GOP divided will not beat Hillary Clinton in November 2016, even if Hillary is wearing an orange jumpsuit on election day.

Question(s): If it is essential that the GOP be united, why would Donald Trump personally insult nearly every GOP  Presidential candidate, and specifically, the more conservative candidates, knowing full well that such would leave the GOP a divided party?  Why would Donald chose to "burn it all down", knowing full well, that as much as 50% of the GOP will walk away regardless of who wins the nomination, because of Trumps insults and his poisoning the well of GOP voters who might be otherwise disposed to support a GOP conservative nominee?

Who benefits?  (crib sheet answer: Hillary)

Why would a Billionaire, erstwhile "reformer", long time FOB (friend of Bill, and Hillary), and life long progressive supporter (along with mostly progressive Republicans) work to divide the GOP?

Final (extra credit):  Do you remember who Ross Perot was?  Do you recall the result of the 1992 election?  Can you list the similarities between Perot and Trump, as Presidential candidates?

Personal: As a Trump supporter, why does none of Trump's antics, his insults, his misrepresentations, but most of all, his efforts to divide the GOP, not bother you?